Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Better side for large parts of that. Nothing to suggest we can't get back into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 France are strangely inviting us on and it’s almost like we are reluctantly taking it:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 England could easily, easily get back into and win this if they stopped playing everyone on the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Parker Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Constantine said: I like this ref. He let the game flow, doesn't blow the whistle on slightest touch... Agreed, but when he does blow the whistle, he likes to make sure everyone hears it and likes to sprint to the foul too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, sc91 said: Ah now come on, I wanted insight into how the ref was ruining things. Stupid it is. Bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 France started the match way better, England's left side looked terrible, then the moment of brilliance happened and they stopped. England grew into it and realized France isn't a better team. Had decent enough chances. Two players are frustrating me, though. Rice is just useless. I don't know if he's just another overrated English player or Southgate can't make him useful, but he's doing nothing. Doesn't offer build up options, has no passing range (had one decent pass for Kane), is way too slow to protect the defense when France hits on the counter and is just kind of there, doing nothing in all aspects of the game. The other one is Saka. He obviously has class, but he needs to toughen up. Theo makes him look like a child whenever they match up. Maguire is well, Maguire. He'll still hoof it thinking he's good at long passes, but what can you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Small sample size, but Walker really does look comfortable against Mbappe imo. We've just got to win the rest of the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Constantine said: I like this ref. He let the game flow, doesn't blow the whistle on slightest touch... Yep. I like how he's performed so far. Only blowing up for anything obvious, trusting VAR to support him if there's a need to. It's how games ought to be refereed on the biggest stage. Enjoyed that as a half of football. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Still so ****ing annoyed by how slow we play it around the back. Ridiculous at times. We do it whether winning, losing or drawing as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Whilst we have played better than most of our first half’s I think that’s because France have dropped deep once scoring which is bizarre. Should have gone for jugular. For all Southgate’s talk pre-game about tactics to cope with Griezman and Mbappe, we are playing the exact same style and formation and tactics as every…single…game. He’s worked out his model and he’s sticking to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Bootador said: Small sample size, but Walker really does look comfortable against Mbappe imo. We've just got to win the rest of the match. It's not really been 1v1 though. He's had at least one other player with him, usually two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Confused Clarity said: Yep. I like how he's performed so far. Only blowing up for anything obvious, trusting VAR to support him if there's a need to. It's how games ought to be refereed on the biggest stage. Enjoyed that as a half of football. As a neutral, yeah great. Just funny as obviously its England and everyone other sentence was about how bad the ref was. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, GunmaN1905 said: France started the match way better, England's left side looked terrible, then the moment of brilliance happened and they stopped. England grew into it and realized France isn't a better team. Had decent enough chances. Two players are frustrating me, though. Rice is just useless. I don't know if he's just another overrated English player or Southgate can't make him useful, but he's doing nothing. Doesn't offer build up options, has no passing range (had one decent pass for Kane), is way too slow to protect the defense when France hits on the counter and is just kind of there, doing nothing in all aspects of the game. The other one is Saka. He obviously has class, but he needs to toughen up. Theo makes him look like a child whenever they match up. Maguire is well, Maguire. He'll still hoof it thinking he's good at long passes, but what can you do. Yeah Rice has had a really mediocre tournament. He had started to win me over for West Ham but when I see performances like this, I'm just not convinced he's good enough to warrant the freedom to roam that he needs to do well. He can't play well when he's restricted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Decent that. As long as we don’t go 2-0 down, we’ve got 45 minutes to score against a team that haven’t kept a clean sheet yet. Rather that than a 1-0 lead and we are already camped on the edge of our own six yard box. Still confident. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM99 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Pretty good so far, creating plenty of decent openings. Just been done by a top class goal. Oddly despite us losing im more confident of us winning than I was 45 mins ago. Would look at taking Foden off for Rashford and running at France a bit more, Foden has done very little so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Confused Clarity said: Yep. I like how he's performed so far. Only blowing up for anything obvious, trusting VAR to support him if there's a need to. It's how games ought to be refereed on the biggest stage. Enjoyed that as a half of football. Wtf. How do you explain Upamecano not having a yellow card, at least? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sc91 said: As a neutral, yeah great. Just funny as obviously its England and everyone other sentence was about how bad the ref was. You're not neutral FFS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Should probably get someone else on the wing instead of Henderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sc91 said: As a neutral, yeah great. Just funny as obviously its England and everyone other sentence was about how bad the ref was. Where are you from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 We’re so passive. Nobody making forward runs, everybody looking to cut in and pass sideways or backwards. No confidence in ourselves until we score a goal. Saka not done enough with all the possession he’s had, probably needs to come off. Needs to toughen up a bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, dking said: Stupid it is. Bye. Calm down dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sc91 said: As a neutral, yeah great. Just funny as obviously its England and everyone other sentence was about how bad the ref was. Stating the obvious but you’d get it on any forum of any country where most of the people support that country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Getting more replays of the Saka foul now… wtf is var for, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not been impressed with Henderson tbh, but I'm not sure what the change is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Pretty clear foul on Saka in the replay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 We've been OK but not created anything of note. Really need to improve out set piece delivery if we can't create anything in open play. We need more from central midfield. I'd consider something like moving Foden to where Henderson is and then sticking Rashford wide left. I do feel that France are playing within themselves and could crank it up when they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: France started the match way better, England's left side looked terrible, then the moment of brilliance happened and they stopped. England grew into it and realized France isn't a better team. Had decent enough chances. Two players are frustrating me, though. Rice is just useless. I don't know if he's just another overrated English player or Southgate can't make him useful, but he's doing nothing. Doesn't offer build up options, has no passing range (had one decent pass for Kane), is way too slow to protect the defense when France hits on the counter and is just kind of there, doing nothing in all aspects of the game. The other one is Saka. He obviously has class, but he needs to toughen up. Theo makes him look like a child whenever they match up. Maguire is well, Maguire. He'll still hoof it thinking he's good at long passes, but what can you do. Rice is useless because he's left isolated in the middle while everyone else runs to the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Weezer said: We’re so passive. Nobody making forward runs, everybody looking to cut in and pass sideways or backwards. No confidence in ourselves until we score a goal. Saka not done enough with all the possession he’s had, probably needs to come off. Needs to toughen up a bit. This. He's been involved more than any other player but done little. Rashford on please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Wish we had Keinan Davis to call on, he'd bully Upamecano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, sc91 said: As a neutral, yeah great. Just funny as obviously its England and everyone other sentence was about how bad the ref was. Get in the bin you bore, you'd be fuming at the ref if it was whoever you support instead of England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, RTHerringbone said: We need more from central midfield. I'd consider something like moving Foden to where Henderson is and then sticking Rashford wide left. Yeah, this was something I'd consider, it's a big call though - on 60 mins maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 It's a clear foul on Kane and goes into the box. Clear penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Smallen said: Getting more replays of the Saka foul now… wtf is var for, man. VAR is there to make sure there are no mistakes to be made against the team they want to win. They probably dismissed it because too much time passed, but the goal should've been disallowed. Since Cristiano is out, they will push Mbappe-Messi final narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Confused Clarity said: Calm down dear. Do one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Wtf. How do you explain Upamecano not having a yellow card, at least? Because the referee didn't see it as a yellow card. I've seen them given, I've seen them not given. No issue at all for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: VAR is there to make sure there are no mistakes to be made against the team they want to win. They probably dismissed it because too much time passed, but the goal should've been disallowed. Since Cristiano is out, they will push Mbappe-Messi final narrative. Relax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 If that foul on Kane is on Mbappe,Ronaldo or Messi it's a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 “At the very least it’s a foul!” says Pougatch, even though VAR can’t go back and give a foul. Textbook. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Wish we had Keinan Davis to call on, he'd bully Upamecano Hopefully he'll be bullying the defenders of Hull tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Bootador said: Yeah, this was something I'd consider, it's a big call though - on 60 mins maybe I’d agree with it but not a chance Southgate trusts Foden in a midfield 3. The issue is Southgate is dead set on 3 central midfielders and there’s very few others who he trusts to play in those wider roles. It will be Henderson, Mount or Gallagher. so Mount. I would go Rashford for Saka in about 10 mins or so. For once I don’t think it’s imperative to change right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: It's a clear foul on Kane and goes into the box. Clear penalty. Yeah, very clear and obvious. So was the foul for their goal. I don’t get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chr1s Lawson said: Pretty clear foul on Saka in the replay I knew that when it happened. I didn't need a replay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, JJ72 said: This. He's been involved more than any other player but done little. Rashford on please Rashford would be a dreadful choice with France sitting in like they are. Saka probably the only player in the squad who can play inbetween the lines like he is. I'm afraid we basically need him to have a stormer of a second half here, don't really have any alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Rob1981 said: “At the very least it’s a foul!” says Pougatch, even though VAR can’t go back and give a foul. Textbook. I mean, in that case that doesn't excuse the ref for not at least giving a free kick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Looks like England are happy for Walker to not been involved in the game unless Mbappe gets the ball. Don't think England are good enough to play 10v10 against France. Henderson moving out wide to provide the job Walker usually would isn't working either because he's not very good on the ball. Saka is useless when there's no space to work in. Ref has been poor. Saka was fouled and so was Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillHoward42 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ackter said: Players could easily stay on their feet in ever situation where he hasn't given the foul, they've decided to drop. Staying on your feet or going down, doesn’t stop it being a foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, craigcwwe said: If that foul on Kane is on Mbappe,Ronaldo or Messi it's a penalty. Yeah, poor Kane never gets the rub of the green with decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Smallen said: Yeah, very clear and obvious. So was the foul for their goal. I don’t get it. What don't you get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Mr Adam said: I’d agree with it but not a chance Southgate trusts Foden in a midfield 3. The issue is Southgate is dead set on 3 central midfielders and there’s very few others who he trusts to play in those wider roles. It will be Henderson, Mount or Gallagher. so Mount. I would go Rashford for Saka in about 10 mins or so. For once I don’t think it’s imperative to change right now Dice rolling time though last 30-20, get the goal back and then Phillips can come on to revert back to the more defensive mids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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