HOORAY HENRIK Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Confused Clarity said: The two others in the commentary box both think it was. Tbf the ex Rangers man has seen penalty awards for far less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Confused Clarity said: The two others in the commentary box both think it was. And McCoist counts double. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Hmm, I'll try to put it this way, let's ignore this specific situation. Defender: stands still, doesn't move. Attacker: smashes the ball past him, isn't in direct control of it anymore and then smashes into the defender not moving. Is that a foul? Like what's the defender supposed to do. Alvarez also impedes the goalkeeper who could've turned around because he didn't fall to the ground and maybe caught up with the ball. Alvarez didn't dribble the ball past him, he wasn't in control of it anymore, he just took a shot. He's not entitled to the ball anymore and he is the one initiation the contact. Alvarez moved towards the keeper, not the other way around. That's the best I can come up with for the explanation, it's about who initiated the contact. Because like this, if we go with your logic, any forward can just try to chip the ball past the keeper and smash into him, to get a penalty if he doesn't score. Doesn't make sense to me at all. The keeper isn't standing still though! He's flying out to the ball. He only stops when he realises he hasn't got there. Alvarez has nowhere near enough time to adjust his run at all, so that's why it's not just a case of Alvarez running into him willy nilly. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy From The Sunny Place Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 at which point Messi has tao be subbed due to his hamstring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Capello finally gets to a WC semi final 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Do indirect free kicks still exist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, craigcwwe said: What about some of the antics from the Dutch during the penalty shootout? During the match, anything goes. As said: also the Argentinians will agree with that. But after the match is over, you don't taunt the opponent, you don't refuse to shake their hand, you don't talk smack. Basic sportsmanship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, SouthCoastRed said: One of those is an utter **** though You leave my Ally alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Pukey said: The keeper isn't standing still though! He's flying out to the ball. He only stops when he realises he hasn't got there. Alvarez has nowhere near enough time to adjust his run at all, so that's why it's not just a case of Alvarez running into him willy nilly. Alvarez did make sure he ran into the leg tbf, he could have easily avoided it. Still a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: "let's ignore this specific situation" and then invent a completely different situation to the one that happened Different? Facts: 1. Keeper has established position and doesn't dive, is still on his feet. 2. Striker smashes into him, takes them both out. 3. Striker didn't dribble past him, but made a shot, wasn't in control of the ball anymore. 4. You can say striker's progress was stopped, but so was keeper's because he was on his feet and had as much chance for the ball if he wasn't taken out. 5. Striker initiated the contact and took the keeper out, not the other way around. This is like smashing your car into the wall and then saying the wall is to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 No clue what they're doing at the back, but Kramaric no longer playing an invisible 9 should improve Croatia's chances of scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 Tbh, this is like a train hitting your car. Just because you went forward but stopped on the tracks doesn't mean the train isn't going to hit you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, XuluBak said: No clue what they're doing at the back, but Kramaric no longer playing an invisible 9 should improve Croatia's chances of scoring. The entire setup makes absolutely no sense when you're the team with the ball, like Croatia was in the first half. Kramarić can't hold up the ball, Pašalić is a midfielder on the wing and Perišić is having a bad game. Dalić just struck lucky against a team with completely different playstyle and decided to keep it for this match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ackter said: Do indirect free kicks still exist? Of course they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Gunman very defensive for a guy who hates the Croatian NT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Definite pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Guy From The Sunny Place said: at which point Messi has tao be subbed due to his hamstring? Tough one. Not sure I'd trust Argentina not to collapse even if they get the third Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Haguey said: Gunman very defensive for a guy who hates the Croatian NT Some people ended up in prison and fled the country since the last World Cup. Anyhow, I hate Orsato more. And that every 50-50 call ever since Lautaro's offside against Saudis went Argentina's way. Card immunity being way more annoying than penalty, tbh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Aye definite pen. Give it a rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 what are croatia even doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 HOOF THE BALL TO MANDŽUKIĆ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, DJ said: During the match, anything goes. As said: also the Argentinians will agree with that. But after the match is over, you don't taunt the opponent, you don't refuse to shake their hand, you don't talk smack. Basic sportsmanship. Talking about some Dutch players trying to put off the Argies on the walk to take the penalties. Talking 20-30 yards, 1-3 of them. Unsportsmanlike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 yeah, those best centre back in the world claims about Gvardiol are being ripped up in front of our eyes here. He’s all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Qataris fixing the tournament for Messi as an ambassador. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The German commentators are cumming every time Messi looks at the ball, it's really getting too much. 'Look how he was pushed around and still gets the pass away!'. Er, no. Defender didn't even touch him Messi is having a great game, sure, but why act like fanbois? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Note to Matterface: you don't need to state that the drop ball is "uncontested". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, DJ said: During the match, anything goes. As said: also the Argentinians will agree with that. But after the match is over, you don't taunt the opponent, you don't refuse to shake their hand, you don't talk smack. Basic sportsmanship. Haha, what nonsense Just like in gaming, you want to BM the opponent, you better make sure you win, otherwise prepare for karma once you lose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 stop talking about his ****ing toes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, craigcwwe said: Talking about some Dutch players trying to put off the Argies on the walk to take the penalties. Talking 20-30 yards, 1-3 of them. Unsportsmanlike. That entire incident started with nice guy Messi making gestures towards Van Gaal after he scored the penalty for 1-0. 1 minute ago, Smallen said: yeah, those best centre back in the world claims about Gvardiol are being ripped up in front of our eyes here. He’s all over the place. Think of VvD playing with Milner and Joe Gomez alongside him. And the tactical mastermind also took out Brozović, only midfielder decent for protecting the defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: The entire setup makes absolutely no sense when you're the team with the ball, like Croatia was in the first half. Kramarić can't hold up the ball, Pašalić is a midfielder on the wing and Perišić is having a bad game. Dalić just struck lucky against a team with completely different playstyle and decided to keep it for this match. Thought that was a mistake when I saw the team sheet. Then subs him at halftime when chasing. Does he even know the player(s) at his disposal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy From The Sunny Place Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 no yellow so far innit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, ginnybob said: Note to Matterface: you don't need to state that the drop ball is "uncontested". This is Matterface's second tournament and I'm convinced he still doesn't understand drop balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, craigcwwe said: Talking about some Dutch players trying to put off the Argies on the walk to take the penalties. Talking 20-30 yards, 1-3 of them. Unsportsmanlike. Absolutely. But during the match. Moan at the ref, start a match of handbags, push players over, mention their dubious heritage, whatever. But after the match, it's over and done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 ooh, close! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Paredes off seems weird, he was fantastic in midfield! can’t help but think Argentina might go on the back foot now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Enzo Fernandez has been fantastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 Not a fan of Argentina switching to a back 3 again. They have usually looked worse with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: This is Matterface's second tournament and I'm convinced he still doesn't understand drop balls. He doesn't understand football in general. He was screaming about Croatia wanting a penalty when all Perisic was claiming for was a deflection and a corner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, EnterUsernameHere said: Enzo Fernandez has been fantastic If Liverpool don’t sign him they’re nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Messi ignored Perisic handshake there. As good as he is, he can be a little petty sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, XuluBak said: Thought that was a mistake when I saw the team sheet. Then subs him at halftime when chasing. Does he even know the player(s) at his disposal? We talked about how Southgate wouldn't be good enough to be an EPL manager in club football. Dalić wouldn't be good enough for Croatian league. His biggest strength was exactly the same, making friends with best players and uniting the team. I wrote about it the other day, we were extremely unlucky in almost every single tournament since '96 up until he took over, whether it be injuries, refereeing or just ridiculous match scenarios. Then he joined and you witnessed what happened over the past 4 years, despite our level of playing not being close to 2016 where we legit looked like a top3 team in the tournament and actually attacked everyone. Now he'll leave, Modrić will retire, we will go back to group eliminations or Ro16 and casual part of the nation will remember him as a mastermind. Life is so unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Smallen said: If Liverpool don’t sign him they’re nuts. Not getting my hopes up on him or Bellingham. Some ambitious (deluded?) Liverpool fans think we'll get both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 To be fair to Gvardiol, it cant be easy playing with a mask on, especially one that doesnt even seem to fit properly. His periphery must be shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Enzo Fernandez has been fantastic Benfica laughing all the way to the bank next year with him and Ramos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ReggaeBwoy said: Messi ignored Perisic handshake there. As good as he is, he can be a little petty sometimes Feels the pressure to win the World Cup and to have people kneel before his statue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Amazing from Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Leo man, you’re the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Sickening isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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