andu1 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said: Because? Because he says so 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvi Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 The problem IMHO is that it doesn't matter how good is the team and how well organized they are at SI, however it is almost impossible to make a polished game with real innovative new functionalities in one year. It would make much more sense to have an iteration every 4-5 years with in between DB updates, competition rules updates and bug fix. 1) it would make the game playable at full potential in September when we are all excited by the start of new football season IRL and when in Europe, North America a Far East (the locations with more costumers) is starting the autumn, so are starting the months when people are more keen to stay home and playing games; 2) aficionados would still buy the update every year and paying almost full price, because it's important to have updated db and competitions, new potential customers could be attracted by offers game+update, as it happens with DLCs for other videogames 3) in 4-5 years the developers would have the time to implement properly great features and to improve enormously ME and AI, it would make the game better 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fëanáro Míriel Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 dakika önce, Delvi said: The problem IMHO is that it doesn't matter how good is the team and how well organized they are at SI, however it is almost impossible to make a polished game with real innovative new functionalities in one year. It would make much more sense to have an iteration every 4-5 years with in between DB updates, competition rules updates and bug fix. 1) it would make the game playable at full potential in September when we are all excited by the start of new football season IRL and when in Europe, North America a Far East (the locations with more costumers) is starting the autumn, so are starting the months when people are more keen to stay home and playing games; 2) aficionados would still buy the update every year and paying almost full price, because it's important to have updated db and competitions, new potential customers could be attracted by offers game+update, as it happens with DLCs for other videogames 3) in 4-5 years the developers would have the time to implement properly great features and to improve enormously ME and AI, it would make the game better Nobody would pay for a db and competitions update when you can simply download one for free. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvi Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 15 minuti fa, Fëanáro Míriel ha scritto: Nobody would pay for a db and competitions update when you can simply download one for free. I wonder how can you edit all data and competitions and having the game starting for instance in 2023 instead of year before... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldywaldy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dreambuilder said: Because? It's when the 4 month rufund policy for release date purchases ends Edited March 1, 2023 by waldywaldy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blejdek Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Delvi said: The problem IMHO is that it doesn't matter how good is the team and how well organized they are at SI, however it is almost impossible to make a polished game with real innovative new functionalities in one year. It would make much more sense to have an iteration every 4-5 years with in between DB updates, competition rules updates and bug fix. 1) it would make the game playable at full potential in September when we are all excited by the start of new football season IRL and when in Europe, North America a Far East (the locations with more costumers) is starting the autumn, so are starting the months when people are more keen to stay home and playing games; 2) aficionados would still buy the update every year and paying almost full price, because it's important to have updated db and competitions, new potential customers could be attracted by offers game+update, as it happens with DLCs for other videogames 3) in 4-5 years the developers would have the time to implement properly great features and to improve enormously ME and AI, it would make the game better Maybe they are working on new set pieces in the background, or something else, something more complex things. We dont know how the procceses are at sigames, i am sure they are not working only one next version every year, i bet there are so much more things happening in the background. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarJ Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Delvi said: The problem IMHO is that it doesn't matter how good is the team and how well organized they are at SI, however it is almost impossible to make a polished game with real innovative new functionalities in one year. I agree but no one is going to buy an updated database for full price when fan sites have been doing it for free for years and SI can’t go without any revenue for even a year. We are stuck to a yearly cycle but that doesn’t mean that we need to buy the game every year. It’s like smartphones at the moment where there are no big changes from year to year and there is no point upgrading every year 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, DarJ said: I agree but no one is going to buy an updated database for full price when fan sites have been doing it for free for years and SI can’t go without any revenue for even a year. We are stuck to a yearly cycle but that doesn’t mean that we need to buy the game every year. It’s like smartphones at the moment where there are no big changes from year to year and there is no point upgrading every year But...surely...surely you're not expecting people to have some kind of personal accountability and make a personal choice not to buy the game?! Well I never. Next time Miles frogmarches me to my laptop and glares at me until I enter payment details, I'll remind him that this is an option and jolly well go in a huff with him about the whole thing. But I'll still buy of course, because how else would I get to complain bitterly each year about how this whole situation is just the same as the previous year? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david7smith Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 I actually think today is very possible, no proof or anything just a general feeling 🙂 #keeppositive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limey150781 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, david7smith said: I actually think today is very possible, no proof or anything just a general feeling 🙂 #keeppositive Possible, but I would say tomorrow is moves from possible to likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, GOODNAME said: Dude it's Wednesday. Its highly likely it will be out today or tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oi_oi_ginger_roy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 On my current save i have Arkadiusz Milik up front and just now i popped into Sainsburys and saw that the date of March 9th was on some Milk that i bought, which is a sign - so going by this it must mean the patch will be out next Thursday... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teep007 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 IN PORTUGUESE !! lancem o update de inverno , estamos todos a espera disso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, oi_oi_ginger_roy said: On my current save i have Arkadiusz Milik up front and just now i popped into Sainsburys and saw that the date of March 9th was on some Milk that i bought, which is a sign - so going by this it must mean the patch will be out next Thursday... That is the most plausible thing said in this entire thread 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsy1983 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, Fëanáro Míriel said: Nobody would pay for a db and competitions update when you can simply download one for free. I 100% would. The amount of time I would get out of the game makes it more than worth it. Also, I have no idea how to download these database updates but do they even include updated player attributes? Not being the legit thing doesn’t sit right with me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kcinnay Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 One real FM each five years? Would be devastating. For me, at least. I'd start to count how many editions I'd have left in my life. Horrible. Patch will drop today, because feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 No tweet by FM so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvi Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Updated version of database and competition for a future year is not something you can find on a forum. Lets make an example: playing season 2022/23 with FM22 instead of FM23: - the game would anyway start no layer than January 2022 (autumn 2021 if you pick up an European team) - competions and rules would not be updated, maximum you could do is to play competitions of year before with teams which are in that competition the current year - editors could update attributes of all players (almost impossible to do) but then you will have problems with player histories and transfers, they can't be updated anyhow because you can't enter data in the future (respect to the start of the season) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarradccfc Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 If it’s not released today then I’m sure this is the latest winter update for about 5 years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gggfunk Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, jarradccfc said: If it’s not released today then I’m sure this is the latest winter update for about 5 years! It's already the latest, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarradccfc Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 im sure 2019 2018 was the 1st of march Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andigaming Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fëanáro Míriel said: We still don't know, i play a lot of games with active communities never have i saw people speculating and debating WHEN will a patch come. Usually the talk is about wheter or not certain things will be fixed or if new stuff will be added. In this game everything about patches are a mystery. Huh? Any game with a reasonable size community does exactly that when there infrequent/predictable patches are overdue. Two examples off the top of my head with communities that do it for games I play are Dota 2 and Hearthstone and I barely play many games in terms of volume. Edited March 1, 2023 by Andigaming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomaRulez Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 They did say they were going to take steps in light of the earthquakes in Turkey by removing people who perished and also by changing the Turkish leagues so that teams that elect not to play the rest of the season don't get relegated. The former shouldn't be too hard to do but I imagine changing the leagues in FM in that manner may take some trial and error on SI's part. They do have some history with that though when the 2020 seasons were stopped due to Covid so I assume they have some idea how to do it. But I suspect this is the reason for the delay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teep007 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Not today . 😫 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 As has been said in this thread countless times. Patches have been released up to 10pm at night before. Keep the faith 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreambuilder Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, andu1 said: Because he says so Because you say because he say because I say? Makes sense! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Well... we have one more shot for this... tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david7smith Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 FM and Miles Twitter have been too quiet today, not even an update by FM to say who won the regen competition, it's strange and getting a bit frustrating 😤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingallen Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caletti Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I think they don't know how to solve the bugs and this is why it takes so long 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropveter Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Dreambuilder said: Next year I'm not doing this waiting for starting a new save again hehe My plan for FM24 and the years to come after: 1) Beta: learn the new features thoroughly while bugs are cleared. If needed, continue main save from previous version. 2) FM24 full game: Start new main save. 3) If I want any other save, start it anyway with latest official version even if theres a week until patch because waiting is less fun. 4) Repeat. Same, But with the sidenote that I could not start with my favorite team cause in the Beta i noticed a mistake (U19 competition in BG: no longer a nationwide competition) Mentioned it, but did not make it into the real game, so have to wait till Feb. before I can play with the team i wanted to play when getting the Beta. I do hope that in 24 the competition structure is correct, so i do can play with one of my favorite FM teams Anyway, filling the time with another save, like that waiting goes faster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Joe O'toole Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Does it only ever come out on the hour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teep007 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Let’s go SI!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I've heard it will be out by tomorrow at the latest 👀 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 8 of March. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy20 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Just now, GOODNAME said: 8 of March. There is always an update after the main winter transfer patch, no chance it'll be that late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said: I've heard it will be out by tomorrow at the latest 👀 I'm being serious btw 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akinozcan Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 dakika önce, Gee_Simpson said: I'm being serious btw 👍🏻 Who said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Joe O'toole Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, GOODNAME said: 8 of March. If that’s true, I’m seriously considering to complain to my local MP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said: I've heard it will be out by tomorrow at the latest 👀 Does that mean there's still a chance for today?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teep007 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 28 minutos atrás, Gee_Simpson disse: I've heard it will be out by tomorrow at the latest 👀 🙏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertocerdeira.4 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 What do we say to the God of Death? Waiting for the update as if it was the beta as I need youth development fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThanatosAFC Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, albertocerdeira.4 said: What do we say to the God of Death? Waiting for the update as if it was the beta as I need youth development fixed Yes? I am listening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teep007 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 @Neil Brock you have Nothing to say about this? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Neil is on holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 20 minuti fa, ThanatosAFC ha scritto: Yes? I am listening well played, lad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilUK Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, andu1 said: Neil is on holiday True, and what he would say if he was here and wanted to say anything is "it will be out when its ready" . It's all he can say because they aren't going to rush to release something that isn't finished Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That There Phil Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, NeilUK said: True, and what he would say if he was here and wanted to say anything is "it will be out when its ready" . It's all he can say because they aren't going to rush to release something that isn't finished Some might say they do that every November. Not me, of course. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, NeilUK said: True, and what he would say if he was here and wanted to say anything is "it will be out when its ready" . It's all he can say because they aren't going to rush to release something that isn't finished Actually, he would probably post a teasing GIF. As he does on the beta speculation thread. He enjoys teasing, the little scamp. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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