Weston Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 1 in 10 of my shots hit the woodwork, which feels really exaggerated. The match engine page on the bug tracker is closed, so posting here just for general discussion - are you experiencing the same thing? Hopefully SI is onto this for the next release. At some points it's happening more than once every 10 minutes! If we look at the last Premier League season as a comparison, the club that hit the frame of the goal the most (24 times) averaged 0.63 per game, with the club in 2nd (18 times) averaging 0.47. I'm in 2nd in my league, and I've hit the frame of the goal a staggering 79 times in only 28 games for an average of 2.82 - several multitudes higher than what we see in real life football! It doesn't feel like a rare or shocking event anymore, but rather just another frustratingly frequent, normal occurrence. It's clear this is broken, and though my own save is obviously a small sample size, the Reddit crowd seems to have noticed as well. They speculate that this has been overpowered (or rather, shot accuracy has been underpowered?) to compensate for poor defense in the match engine, which I could believe. It's an immersion-breaking level of silliness at present, unfortunately. Edited April 22, 2023 by Weston 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maviarab Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Been an issue going back years, certainly a a HUGE issue in FM23 for sure. Every game more or less for me. Bug trackers....meh....report to them...meh....when something is happening/has been happening for years, can it really be considered a bug at this point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Maviarab said: when something is happening/has been happening for years, can it really be considered a bug at this point? Yes, absolutely. "Happening for many years" ignores the point that (certainly in terms of the ME) it's an issue, gets reported (whether by SI's testers, the private alpha/beta or the general public), logged and improved. Woodwork hits could increase again as a result of a tweak elsewhere. While the outcome means that woodwork hits are higher, in all likelyhood, it's not caused be the same issue. Or it might be in a couple of cases - it is something that was fixed, but it's now an issue that's re-appeared, so needs the same process (reporting with examples, finding out what the cause it, attempt to rectify it, test it, rectify more, test more etc) so that is why it's always recommended to log an issue. The ideal is to get matches to look realistic AND the match stats to perfectly line up with real life. I doubt we'll ever get there, but we can get close. Tbh, in a lot of areas, it's very close. If something is quite off, it needs improving, that is what SI will look to do. They compare match stats across multiple countries and multiple levels (both top and lower tiers), so it's important to try and get it as accurate as possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerfan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I’m in the 5th year of my current save, and in the preseason friendlies I’ve been seeing anywhere from 3 to 10 woodwork hits per match. I can’t complain too much, though, because some of those have resulted in rebounds that were put in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd_angel Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Yes, it's a bit too much. It reminds me for a classic 1978 World Cup game Argentina strikers hit the woodwork four times in a row! Once in a blue moon? Yes, nice. Every match? Boo, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I came across this thread by searching for 'woodwork' because I am too experiencing this. In the data hub, it looks like I can only have a shot map with 5 matches in, so not a small enough sample size to be worth screenshotting. Following this thread with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 You are lucky to hit the woodwork. 93% of mine would hit about three foot up from the top of your monitor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfusion Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Only 12 matches into my FM23 save but I can concur anecdotally that the woodwork is being hit far more frequently than in my latest FM21 save; although there seems to be far fewer disallowed goals correctly called for "offside". Seems to be far more penalties given as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Zachary Whyte Posted August 21, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 21, 2023 Hello everyone, I just wanted to say that the Match team are aware of this, and will look to make adjustments for FM24, thank you. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Great to hear Zachary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCell0phane Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 The other night, my team hit the crossbar with a shot and sent the rebound off of the post, so I feel this hard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I have been noticing this too lately, but in my case it feels situational. Like there are similar patterns of play that result in the striker hitting the post. I do recall a bug a few years back where if a striker received a through ball in a certain way, the keeper would always save it. Although that could be confirmation bias talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal9ball Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Totally agree. This needs reducing. It sticks out a mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevaggel Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Keep in mind that FM doesnt count all the times a ball hits the post so the real number is higher. According to FM if the ball touches someone before hitting the post it doesnt count... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd_angel Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Agreed! Tons of woodwork and blocked shots. On the other hand, we rarely see balls flying over the crossbar... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrew Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I'm with you all, however : Reflects real life statistics It's your tactics Other dismissive response if any Roll a dice how you'd like to be ignored. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 This is the first year in as long as I can remember that I haven't bought the game, in part because problems like this have become too repetitive to ignore. I was wondering if it got improved at all in this year's edition, but based on the replies to this thread continuing, I'm guessing it hasn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now