agoran Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, SazoJohnno said: Yes, you can carry over your save from FM23 over to FM24 however some certain features will not be available if you use your save from FM23. I dont talk about save game. I talk about data base when start new game in FM 2024 will be able to run player attributes that i set in Fm 2023 in this database Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SazoJohnno Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 minute ago, agoran said: I dont talk about save game. I talk about data base when start new game in FM 2024 will be able to run player attributes that i set in Fm 2023 in this database Ah, I am not quite sure in that case. But I'd assume that you might have to start over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, agoran said: Again they didnt separate with ball and without tactic and they talk about real thing, tactic is most important thing they do wrong and dont care. I talk about this 4 years..look City with and without ball tactic... this in FM is not possible They’ve said multiple times they’re not bringing WIBWOB back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElJuanvito Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 hace 14 minutos, SazoJohnno dijo: Yes, you can carry over your save from FM23 over to FM24 however some certain features will not be available if you use your save from FM23. What features? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzaflow10 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, DarJ said: I think possession will be the meta for this year just from the clips. There was not a single long ball from back to front like you had in FM23 for no reason. The teams seemed to hold on to the ball longer when no one is pressuring them. I’m curious to see how this will translate to the lower divisions I'm sure they curated clips from the game that highlighted the feature they were showing. Also seemed like they picked Man City v Stratford SI Purple in a few clips. I'd hope in lower leagues (not that I have time to play those anymore) would have more hoofs just from TIs/PIs and the new player movement puts more emphasis on the mental attributes. That'd have a fun impact on people only signing wonderkids instead of prime-aged players at the top level too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, ElJuanvito said: What features? "Note that there are a couple of things not possible with transferred save games unfortunately. The first is FM24 achievements (trophies on PS5), which you’ll need to start a new career to accomplish. You also won’t be able to watch replays of matches played in FM23, as these aren’t carried across when converting." From: https://www.footballmanager.com/news/football-manager-2024-feature-rollout-and-new-partnerships Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElJuanvito Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Justo ahora, dan99 dijo: "Note that there are a couple of things not possible with transferred save games unfortunately. The first is FM24 achievements (trophies on PS5), which you’ll need to start a new career to accomplish. You also won’t be able to watch replays of matches played in FM23, as these aren’t carried across when converting." From: https://www.footballmanager.com/news/football-manager-2024-feature-rollout-and-new-partnerships So, nothing important, at least so far. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, ElJuanvito said: So, nothing important, at least so far. Thanks. My thoughts exactly! Couldn't care less about achievements, and replays I can live without as after a season or so you wouldn't be going back that far. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzaflow10 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, agoran said: Again they didnt separate with ball and without tactic and they talk about real thing, tactic is most important thing they do wrong and dont care. I talk about this 4 years..look City with and without ball tactic... this in FM is not possible Well there's always CM 01/02 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, agoran said: I dont talk about save game. I talk about data base when start new game in FM 2024 will be able to run player attributes that i set in Fm 2023 in this database You could just load up FM23 with your db and then save the game after you've loaded your leagues then load up FM24... Or once full game is out just use the FM23 db in the FM24 editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted September 27, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted September 27, 2023 56 minutes ago, agoran said: Will it be possible to load data base from 2023? Because I spend 20 hours to set real attributes to players... so it will be possible thi or not? If you are refering to editor files you have made, then yes - you've been able to use editor files from previous veersions for sometime now. I think you might have to re-verify the file in the fm24 editor perhaps (or that might just be for league rules) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agoran Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, EdL said: If you are refering to editor files you have made, then yes - you've been able to use editor files from previous veersions for sometime now. I think you might have to re-verify the file in the fm24 editor perhaps (or that might just be for league rules) But then will be all transfers like in real life done when i verify? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted September 27, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted September 27, 2023 Just now, agoran said: But then will be all transfers like in real life done when i verify? it really depends what changes you have made, if you are just editing attributes etc it should have no affect on transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(sic) Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I am lost for words. Thank you SI for listening to our feedback/requests. The new roles, and the way existing roles move to accommodate the movement of other players is just what I wanted to hear from this preview. DM dropping to the side to form a back 3? Check. Fullback forming a back 3, acting as a 3rd CB? Check. John Stones role? Check. I love the new movement animations as well, especially when a player starts to run from a standstill. It finally resembles something somewhat realistic The lighting and the textures finally look like a large improvement over the past few years, and honestly I'm very happy with those. Can't wait to actually play this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotsworthy Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, agoran said: Again they didnt separate with ball and without tactic and they talk about real thing, tactic is most important thing they do wrong and dont care. I talk about this 4 years..look City with and without ball tactic... this in FM is not possible SI clearly don't like micro tweaking of a tactic, which is why we also lost sliders, position arrows, and player roles were locked down. I'm sure realism comes into their thinking but it's also noticeable how FM doesn't really suffer from outright broken tactics as much these days, even if there still a meta. The blog outlines a new role designed to make City's tactic possible in FM. Player roles and mentalities are now supposed to be the on the ball/off the ball instructions Edited September 27, 2023 by Dotsworthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej9 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Jonthedon26 said: It's interesting how different people's thought processes work! I am by no means saying that what you said is not true or incorrect, as it is obviously what you deem the most important thing, however for me the whole point of the game is almost everything but the matches (how I view them anyway). The last few years due to time constraints I have played commentary only and I think I have a lot more fun than most people on the forums. I enjoy all the other side of things, tactics, stats, transfers, squad building etc. I try to judge how my tactics are working by the stats I see rather than the on field representation. Obviously everyone is different and someone, like yourself, sees it completely the opposite, which is absolutely fine, I just find it interesting how different people can have completely different views. Maybe it is because I grew up playing manager games with terrible or no match engines/graphics, and to this day I still enjoy a lot of manager games with rubbish or no engines/graphics such as Out of the Park baseball, Draft Day Sports basketball/football and World of Mixed Martial Arts. Oh for sure, different strokes for different folks. To be clear, I am not asking for better graphics, I am asking for a better representation of the match engine, so I can react as a manager. A good example is the bad defending that has plagued the series for a while now, its explained that the reason your top class Centerback runs to a ball, stops and looks at it while the opposing ST runs up, takes it and scores, is that there is something happening in the match engine, that the graphics engine cannot show. That is ridiculous to me. I don't need it to be pretty, just need it to be connected to the match engine. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj6658 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I really hope the wingers facing up defenders rather than going to the byline and then turning around means that they actually try and beat their man. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrig Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I have absolutely no confidence in things like dynamic potential or improved AI squad building - these have been headline features before, and probably will be again. But an inverted fullback, a libero in a back four, and player roles in general taking the context of your overall tactic into account? Now I'm excited! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin M Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Can we get a base light skin again? Why was it ever removed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choi seung won Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 The most impressive thing about the new match engine is that wingers can finally be positioned close to the sideline. Even in Pep's tactics, you can see that the wingers stay close to the sideline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 10 hours ago, teej9 said: ts explained that the reason your top class Centerback runs to a ball, stops and looks at it while the opposing ST runs up, takes it and scores, is that there is something happening in the match engine, that the graphics engine cannot show. Tbf this almost sounds like a bug, in most cases I do find my teams defending well unless I am going through a phase when they all want to leave the club. Then I start seeing really bad behavior on the pitch. Things like standing still and not doing anything does sound more like a bug than a match engine event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus89 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Choi seung won said: The most impressive thing about the new match engine is that wingers can finally be positioned close to the sideline. Even in Pep's tactics, you can see that the wingers stay close to the sideline. This has been a thing since Pep's Barca, and especially at Bayern in his first year, he frequently had Robben and Ribery high and on the touchline making runs in behind. This is impossible to replicate in the match engine, it's about time we were able to do this. I'm not holding my breath though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp_87 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 To be fair to SI that is maybe the most comprehensive feature announcement in many a year. The tactical stuff is exactly the sort of thing long overdue, here's hoping it works as advertised. Would say though, as a couple of others have mentioned, quite disappointed if this doesn't (yet again) include a fundamental reworking of goalkeepers and the possibilities for them to join in with possession. I know this requires getting it right and so it doesn't lead to frequent Match Engine howlers, but changes to how the GK works has been needed for about a decade plus now (it's been that long since you saw eg. Valdes and Neuer in the mainstream acting virtually as outfield players) and is one of the biggest oversights of the game tbh. The motion capture/physics/mechanics look massively improved. Not perfect of course, but on first look that's like a generational leap overnight and at last something resembling actual people playing actual football. Might even tempt me to give a chance to something other than 2d mode.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Choi seung won said: The most impressive thing about the new match engine is that wingers can finally be positioned close to the sideline. Even in Pep's tactics, you can see that the wingers stay close to the sideline. They'd be as well changing the name of the game to 'Manchester City Manager' as everything that's changing in the tactics is revolved around one club. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonthedon26 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 15 hours ago, teej9 said: Oh for sure, different strokes for different folks. To be clear, I am not asking for better graphics, I am asking for a better representation of the match engine, so I can react as a manager. A good example is the bad defending that has plagued the series for a while now, its explained that the reason your top class Centerback runs to a ball, stops and looks at it while the opposing ST runs up, takes it and scores, is that there is something happening in the match engine, that the graphics engine cannot show. That is ridiculous to me. I don't need it to be pretty, just need it to be connected to the match engine. Ye absolutely, 100% get what you are saying. I guess that is where I am lucky in the fact that I avoid all of that stuff just doing commentary only! It's a shame though for all those that do want to watch the matches play out, hopefully they get it fixed in the next couple of editions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarJ Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 28/09/2023 at 11:19, Dagenham_Dave said: They'd be as well changing the name of the game to 'Manchester City Manager' as everything that's changing in the tactics is revolved around one club. I think this is a very narrow way of viewing it. People have been asking for a while for a role where your FB becomes a 3rd CB when in possession and also the defensive midfielder dropping at the right or left side of the defence during the first build up phase. Teams have been doing this for a while now so it’s not something new or exclusive to Manchester City 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_CB Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) Edited September 29, 2023 by Nick_CB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrig Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 28/09/2023 at 11:19, Dagenham_Dave said: They'd be as well changing the name of the game to 'Manchester City Manager' as everything that's changing in the tactics is revolved around one club. Maybe from how it's being marketed, but the inverted fullback has been badly needed for years for those of us interested in recreating Zona Mista styles going back to the 80s. The Half back going to the sides is common among all sides that operate with a double pivot. The Libero should never have been locked to CCB in the first place, and wrong side wingers holding width has been around for a couple of decades at least. These changes are very, very welcome. I guess keeping up the pretense that Pep invented football is just expected to help sell more games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 27/09/2023 at 19:05, gunner86 said: They’ve said multiple times they’re not bringing WIBWOB back Unsubscribe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 1 hour ago, DarJ said: I think this is a very narrow way of viewing it. People have been asking for a while for a role where your FB becomes a 3rd CB when in possession and also the defensive midfielder dropping at the right or left side of the defence during the first build up phase. Teams have been doing this for a while now so it’s not something new or exclusive to Manchester City To add to this the first coach to use the IWB wasn’t even Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElJuanvito Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 With the new set pieces system announced, this is the biggest step forward for the series probably since 10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Yep, another great addition, particularly as you can leave your set piece coaches to do everything themselves, and they will be dynamic about based on different factors. As long as the AI making the decisions isn't borked, this is a game changer for me, as I don't go near set pieces at the moment, as I have little interest in that side of the game, but always feel as though I should be doing more. Now I don't have to. This is shaping up to be quite a game if everything they have announced works as planned. I really hope one of the QOL additions is a fix to the squad planner, as that was my favourite new feature last year, but it just wasn't implemented well enough. Fix that in addition with all the other stuff, and I'm a happy man. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) There's *potentially* going to be so many exploits if not implemented correctly Edited September 29, 2023 by Domoboy23 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socerer 01 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Seeing Ivan be the name of the regen coach in the feature blog is already making me worried 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 27/09/2023 at 20:55, EdL said: If you are refering to editor files you have made, then yes - you've been able to use editor files from previous veersions for sometime now. I think you might have to re-verify the file in the fm24 editor perhaps (or that might just be for league rules) Verifying is just for league rules indeed. Data edits might throw up some errors though if you made a change that is different between the FM23 and FM24 database, but they should work without much issue after loading and saving them in the editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Socerer 01 said: Seeing Ivan be the name of the regen coach in the feature blog is already making me worried This comment reminds me of a comment I saw on social media from one of the match engine promos where someone complained the linesman had the flag in the wrong hand 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 3 hours ago, KillYourIdols said: Unsubscribe I bet I can get you subscribed to something else… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 If they had a stat which told you which teams were best at counter attacking from corners (for example, goals scored within 40 seconds of an opposition's corner being taken) that would be great in order to tailor your set up defending on opponent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElJuanvito Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Now I just want this as a quality of life enhancement. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, ElJuanvito said: Now I just want this as a quality of life enhancement. Have to admit that the quality of life announcement is the one I'm most looking forward to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said: Have to admit that the quality of life announcement is the one I'm most looking forward to Tend to agree. It’s where the best stuff normally lives IMO. The little things that you didn’t even know you needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarJ Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 I'm excited for FM24 I can't wait to the period where I'll be refreshing this page every hour or so until the beta gets out. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autohoratio Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Domoboy23 said: If they had a stat which told you which teams were best at counter attacking from corners (for example, goals scored within 40 seconds of an opposition's corner being taken) that would be great in order to tailor your set up defending on opponent. Or perhaps "Average time taken to produce a shot on target after opposition set piece"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, gunner86 said: I bet I can get you subscribed to something else… YES PLEASE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchWhisky Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 I'm amazed that after years of incremental changes, FM '24 actually sounds like it's implementing a lot of useful changes. Is this just part of the transition to whatever FM '25 is supposed to become? It feels like it's a way to gin up support for the changes that are coming next year. Either way, I welcome these changes. Though I still hope too much isn't dedicated to women's football in '25. Beyond the initial "let's check this out!", we all know it's barely going to be used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 44 minutes ago, ScotchWhisky said: Though I still hope too much isn't dedicated to women's football in '25. Beyond the initial "let's check this out!", we all know it's barely going to be used. Or in my case, never. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Match engine and graphics are always welcome updates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, ScotchWhisky said: Beyond the initial "let's check this out!", we all know it's barely going to be used. I'd say that it's a mystery why people are so desperate to show off how little they care, but...well, it's not is it? Being personally uninterested in it I can understand. Being so desperate to extrapolate that out into saying how uninterested everyone else will be seems like you're just, as they say, telling on yourself. But as a result, I hope they spend all their time on it given the tizzy some will get in over it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Tigh Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Really liking the look of this year’s game. My final wish is to fix the fitness levels during club World Cup /international competitions. I think international football can be completely revamped but that would have been a headline feature so will settle for just fixing the fitness levels Edited September 30, 2023 by Colonel Tigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloppy Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 When is the beta out again? 2 or 3 weeks before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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