Popular Post KamyKaze Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, MrPompey said: Please raise as a bug as it should be green for a win and red for a loss Can't be bothered to search where to post it. Did that a few years back and bugs still in the game. SI can pick it up from here if they want... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, KamyKaze said: Weird that wins are shown with a red circle That would be the skin your using 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Nick_CB said: I noticed something that happens in many matches. There is a moment in the second half when there are no shots. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but even though we change the team tactically, NOTHING happens. There are minutes and more minutes of a match with only excessive passing I’m going to start watching full matches. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is what driving up pass accuracy. It’s really off putting that my 4 passing center back went from 66% passing in FM23 to a now 92% pass accuracy in FM 24. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 If a player in an u21 league in England is sent off, does that carry into senior first team games? Just noticed one of my players was sent off for the U21's in midweek and now can't play for the senior team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamyKaze Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, alian62 said: That would be the skin your using The official one? still on SI to fix... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstrikuuu Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said: If a player in an u21 league in England is sent off, does that carry into senior first team games? Just noticed one of my players was sent off for the U21's in midweek and now can't play for the senior team https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/premier-league-loophole-gives-leeds-united-teenager-major-suspension-boost-before-huge-fixture-4115614 https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/23106201.bradley-dacks-two-match-ban-explained-under-21s-red-card/ Pretty sure the answer is no, a youth match sending-off is served in youth matches, not senior matches. The rules may be different for an over-age player playing in a U-21 match for fitness reasons, if that's the case. And it might be different if the player in question is registered for your senior squad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Is anyone else finding that the search in player search is broken? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 This, followed by abysmal morale for not doing the above. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiigman Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 This is a bit odd/wrong is it not? Report: SK Rapid qualify for UEL, but they lost to the team in 3rd, who is now only 2 points behind them into the final game of the season. So if SK Rapid lose (to me evidently) and LASK win, then LASK will finish 2nd and qualify for UEL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daveincid Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 Seee you guys 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiigman Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Out of curiosity, how do SI know this? https://vxtwitter.com/FootballManager/status/1720470934228762661?s=20 Edited November 3, 2023 by craiigman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 16 минут назад, Daveincid сказал: Seee you guys And I’m not even offended, good luck genius!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Gerade eben schrieb Novem9: And I’m not even offended, good luck genius!! Well....I wish it would be my own screenshot My feedback for FM24: SI just ruined my weekend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Daveincid said: Seee you guys Is it released or are you in a beta editor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Gerade eben schrieb andu1: Is it released or are you in a beta editor? I am in tears, that's all I am right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Daveincid said: I am in tears, that's all I am right now 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Really struggling to understand the cause of there being too many goals. Is it goalkeepers simply not being good enough? Shot physics being off? Teams getting too many high xG chances? Is it a moral issue after conceding/scoring? Too many goals from corners? The issue seems amplified when trying to play defensive, rather than playing offensively. Which shouldn't be the case. Is this a result of defensive formations and low line/low blocks not working? Is it a result of teams just getting far too many shots peppered away when setting up this way when compared to real life? Or one of the above simply just making it not sustainable? Across my season for the first 21 games I was using a high line, high press 4-2-3-1. The goals per game average came out at 3.17. Still substantially above the IRL average. I've since gone for a deep line with a low block, a defence first mentality. We are now averaging a total of 6.00 GPG. Ice hockey scores when trying to play defensive. 23 games into the season and every single side that was in the division last season, has hit at least 80% of total goals scored IRL last season. It's mental. When setting up the low block we average a total of 27... thats right, 27 shots against us each game. In the 4-3-3? 12. If we have to bring super keepers back, please just do it. Edited November 3, 2023 by Domoboy23 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 минуты назад, Daveincid сказал: I am in tears, that's all I am right now Well, this time there is no need to go through natural fitness. It's not necessary, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, craiigman said: Out of curiosity, how do SI know this? https://vxtwitter.com/FootballManager/status/1720470934228762661?s=20 Most people play the game in Steam's online mode, so SI can pull any data they want from your saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, craiigman said: Out of curiosity, how do SI know this? https://vxtwitter.com/FootballManager/status/1720470934228762661?s=20 Go to Preferences. Search "Enable Data Collection": ==== Might be wrong, but this is how they see the behavior from community. What tactic, what signing, sack, goals, etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Fullbacks shooting from silly positions around 30 yards out near the edges of the box seems a bit OTT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiigman Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 41 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: Go to Preferences. Search "Enable Data Collection": ==== Might be wrong, but this is how they see the behavior from community. What tactic, what signing, sack, goals, etc. Pretty sure GDPR requires you to have to opt in to this type of thing though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederico EJ Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, craiigman said: Pretty sure GDPR requires you to have to opt in to this type of thing though Only if they're collecting data that can personally identify you, so no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiigman Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Frederico EJ said: Only if they're collecting data that can personally identify you, so no I would venture a guess to say the majority of people use their real names and dob on their manager profiles, the game also auto saves your save file with the manager name, so there is likely some personal data involved, unless someone can point me to somewhere that says exactly what they collect? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederico EJ Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, craiigman said: I would venture a guess to say the majority of people use their real names and dob on their manager profiles, the game also auto saves your save file with the manager name, so there is likely some personal data involved, unless someone can point me to somewhere that says exactly what they collect? Just because your real name is on the manage profile, doesn't mean that they process it. They could literally process X fields and only collect and store those. They won't need your consent for that 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, craiigman said: Pretty sure GDPR requires you to have to opt in to this type of thing though Think this is one of the options you get the first time you start the game, but I'm not sure, don't think I can get that screen to pop up again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnieekelund Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 4 hours ago, KamyKaze said: Can't be bothered to search where to post it. Did that a few years back and bugs still in the game. SI can pick it up from here if they want... So why post in the first place 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, XaW said: Think this is one of the options you get the first time you start the game, but I'm not sure, don't think I can get that screen to pop up again... Click More You mean, these ones, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, fc.cadoni said: Click More You mean, these ones, right? Yeah, meant those, but see they mostly talk about ads, thought it was one for the other too... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azymin Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 8 hours ago, wazzaflow10 said: My personal favorite of this is the Man Utd board unhappy at how many scouts you have when the game starts and won't approve more so you slowly lose scouts as they retire. I have no idea why it wouldn't let you keep the same number of scouts the real life board approves. Oh yeah I've seen that! Lol You also can't change staff numbers with in game editor either. Really annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 6 hours ago, KamyKaze said: Can't be bothered to search where to post it. Did that a few years back and bugs still in the game. SI can pick it up from here if they want... there is a dedicated big forum, found on the home page, if its left here it won't be picked up so you are saying you don't want it resolved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 My league after 35 games has an overperformance xG of 137 goals (only 4 teams in - figures)... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Any type of player unhappiness leads to a training and performance crash which results in you not playing the player and perpetuating the cycle of unhappiness.......frozen morale, poor training. Still not seeing morale increase if I'm meeting the terms of a promise, wasn't that supposed to be a new thing? It makes no sense to see a player stuck in a morale and training limbo for a finite amount of days. It should be gradual and recover quicker if being met. Just disappointingly nonsensical as it currently stands. The current mechanics suggest that unhappy players are not professional enough to train well and play well. Edited November 3, 2023 by janrzm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Sid Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said: My league after 35 games has an overperformance xG of 137 goals (only 4 teams in - figures)... I never thought to check the XG table, now I wish I hadn't... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Big Daddy Sid said: I never thought to check the XG table, now I wish I hadn't... Utterly ridiculous isn't it! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 How does my wingback with 6 long shots and 6 finishing and PT of "refrains from taking long shots" and PI of "shoot less often" manage to score 7 goals from outside the box? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 IRL figures from last season for the Championship. That's 337 clean sheets across a season. I have run 3 different simulations on FM to compare this to RL figures. A: 137 -- Team with the highest: 11 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 23% rate. B: 111 -- Team with the highest: 13 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 23% rate. C: 156 -- Team with the highest: 11 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 28% rate. This means that a team on FM with the most amount of clean sheets... would be around 17/18th IRL. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Domoboy23 Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) This amount of goals FOR, for each side in the top 6 after 32 games is obscene. It already matches and exceeds for 4 of them compared to last season IRL after 46 games. Even then, the other 2 are within 5, with fourteen games remaining. The simulation has been repeated. For the Championship the +0.93 equates to OVER 550 goals over the course of a season... EDIT: For FURTHER CONTEXT, for FM23 simulations I've just ran... 3 year avg PL: 2.74 '' CH: 2.62 '' L2: 2.59 I noticed 7 games into the season (day 1 of the beta) that a lot of goals across all full detail leagues were being scored, with some crazy scorelines. I then ran a batch of simulations on day 2 (not included in here, was posted on one of the first 10 feedback pages) which indicated an issue in line with the above. It really does make me wonder how something so noticeable after just 2/3 hours of gameplay by a single user on day one of the beta release, can go unnoticed or unflagged in alpha testing. Especially as most of it is all numbers and stats based and can be evidenced simply by ticking a leagues to full detail and simulating. Edited November 4, 2023 by Domoboy23 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie78 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 The inverted wing back role on attack doesnt work as it used to do since fm22 it does not do inside movement off the ball, it does not go up higher the pitch inside the box like it used to on attack like almost a number 10, it's really sad since I thought this year you would improve the game tactic way more than last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdbayly Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) I'm curious whether the developers watch the YouTuber BETA content? If so, do they think 'yep, the finances and AI bids seem to be working just fine!' Another emerging problem is the attempt to replicate the mad bids from Saudi clubs. All this is achieving is to further feather the nest of financial exploiters. I'd say the committed spend of human managers is outstripping the AI by 3 or 4 times on the saves I've dipped in to. It is utterly shambolic. Edited November 3, 2023 by rdbayly 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Match Engine is better but thats all, rest is shieeeed. Zero improvement. And it is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Domoboy23 Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) The team top of the championship for shot to goal conversion last season IRL wouldn't even be 17th in the table on my simulated save For further context in 21/22 the top team (Fulham) had 10.7%. And Bournemouth in 20/21 has 10.3%. For further context this is the stats from my current save 32 games in... AVERAGE CONVERSION RATES ACROSS THE DIVISION IRL 22/23: 8.2% 21/22: 8.1% 20/21: 7.6% 3 YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE: 7.96% FM 24 SIMULATIONS SEASON 1: 14.37 SEASON 2: 13.91 SEASON 3: 15.01 3 YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE: 14.43% (FM 23 SIMULATIONS SEASON 1: 9.33 SEASON 2: 9.25 SEASON 3: 9.58 3 YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE: 9.38%) THIS TEST HAS BEEN RUN ACROSS MULTIPLE NATIONS AND LEAGUES, ALL WITH EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH CONVERSION RATES. THIS IS A UNIVERSAL, NOT LEAGUE SPECIFIC ISSUE. Edited November 4, 2023 by Domoboy23 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Domoboy23 said: IRL figures from last season for the Championship. That's 337 clean sheets across a season. I have run 3 different simulations on FM to compare this to RL figures. A: 137 -- Team with the highest: 11 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 23% rate. B: 111 -- Team with the highest: 13 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 23% rate. C: 156 -- Team with the highest: 11 clean sheets. Across 46 games this is a 28% rate. This means that a team on FM with the most amount of clean sheets... would be around 17/18th IRL. The accuracy of the match engine is unimportant. The game should be visually appealing, featuring high-scoring matches and impressive goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Daveincid said: Seee you guys Nice photoshop ... Games not released yet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalo Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, Mars_Blackmon said: The accuracy of the match engine is unimportant. The game should be visually appealing, featuring high-scoring matches and impressive goals. Bad luck if your board wants you to play defensive football then I guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alekos Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Mars_Blackmon said: The accuracy of the match engine is unimportant. The game should be visually appealing, featuring high-scoring matches and impressive goals. LOL that was a nice joke!! Or it was not?? 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alekos said: LOL that was a nice joke!! Or it was not?? I think this is what a casual player would want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, janrzm said: Any type of player unhappiness leads to a training and performance crash which results in you not playing the player and perpetuating the cycle of unhappiness.......frozen morale, poor training. Still not seeing morale increase if I'm meeting the terms of a promise, wasn't that supposed to be a new thing? It makes no sense to see a player stuck in a morale and training limbo for a finite amount of days. It should be gradual and recover quicker if being met. Just disappointingly nonsensical as it currently stands. The current mechanics suggest that unhappy players are not professional enough to train well and play well. I'm finding that some unhappy players stop bothering in training, but not all. Likewise, some have a dip in performance on the pitch, but not all. Strikes me it depends on their hidden personality attributes, which is as it should be. In my current squad, one player has surprisingly gone into a death-loop and is now floundering in the reserves, but all the other have gotten over themselves after 2-3 months and are behaving normally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Overmars Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Mars_Blackmon said: The accuracy of the match engine is unimportant. The game should be visually appealing, featuring high-scoring matches and impressive goals. I think you will find a lot of people disagree with that. I am one of them. I remember having fun with FM15 which had a similarly high-scoring match engine, but ultimately I was disappointed with how immersion-breaking it can be when you rarely see 1-0 or 0-0 scorelines. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, Overmars said: I think you will find a lot of people disagree with that. I am one of them. I remember having fun with FM15 which had a similarly high-scoring match engine, but ultimately I was disappointed with how immersion-breaking it can be when you rarely see 1-0 or 0-0 scorelines. It was a sarcastic response to a long series of whiny posts. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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