Bobsy88 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Hey, I'm just wondering if SI have ever released a hot fix during the early access/beta. Game is great so far, apart from the injuries - especially to Goalkeepers. No worries if not, will have to wait til the full release but just wondering if any hope of a fix before then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 They haven't before, I think. And I doubt they'd do any updates before the release unless it was a technical issue where many people couldn't enter the game itself. A bit too high level of injuries to goalkeepers doesn't fall into something I would call critical, so if I was a betting man, I'd say no updates, at least to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsy88 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Thanks for your reply. No worries, I've started a few games where both the first team GKs get lengthy injuries. I'll hold off starting a new game until full release. Thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paraman Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 From memory, there's always been excessive injuries in the beta and it usually gets sorted by the time full launch comes around. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 A hotfix, by definition, is released when there is a major technical issue that affects how the game runs or doesn't run, so is unlikely for a thing like injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dagenham_Dave Posted October 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Paraman said: From memory, there's always been excessive injuries in the beta and it usually gets sorted by the time full launch comes around. A common myth. SI very rarely, if ever, touch the injury frequency, it's always set to about 80% of real life. The only fix they will do for full release this time is to curb the excessive goalkeeper injuries. I'm in November in my save, and I've had 4 injuries all season so far, longest one was for 7 days. In my ten team league, 4 of the teams have no injuries, three of the other six have 1 injury each, and the other three have 3 injuries. Let me tell you, thats WAY down on the injury tally in this league in real life. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 There's usually some "reduced injuries" type mod on the Steam Workshop so hopefully that will be available shortly after release ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPE3D Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Mobius said: There's usually some "reduced injuries" type mod on the Steam Workshop so hopefully that will be available shortly after release ! Reduced injuries? I'll be looking for the mod that increases them. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 There were updates for previous versions... I crearly remember an update for FM21 beta which ruined my tactics... lol For FM23 they didnt though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsy88 Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 I know injuries are part of the game, the rest of squad injuries had been okay, and the game seems fine. Just both my main GKs on every save so far is bit frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The issue of raised instances of GK injuries has been reported and is under review. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbas2 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I wasn't aware of the GK thing, I just thought when mine broke his arm I was unlucky, and shafted as I don't name one on the bench and the other two were youth players (for a conference south team, despair...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Its possible that goalkeepers are being counted as outfield players and so at higher risk of injury instead of as GK but Ive not seen evidence of this In any case the only way to prove it is run a series of soak tests looking at GK injuries and comparing to real life. In my personal soak tests I didnt see anything significant in terms of GK injuries. I also wonder since the training module has had some changes if you default training to Ass Man he may over do it? There is also the player injury risk assessment to keep an eye on. https://www.sportsgambler.com/injuries/football/england-premier-league/ I count 6 GK injuries so far this season in the premier. Interesting stats here it doesnt break it down to differentiate between outfield players and goalkeepers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapoleon Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 In general, they don't have been exceptions where they did to address a player development bug last year and in one year a system performance bug. So I could see the GK bug being fixed before release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzz Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Is there actually a bug related to the goalkeepers, or is everyone just making things up? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Quickzz said: Is there actually a bug related to the goalkeepers, or is everyone just making things up? Not a 'bug' per se. Previously, keepers never got injured or carded. They've finally fixed that - possibly overfixed it for the beta. Edited October 28, 2023 by phnompenhandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevjim Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Viking said: I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall. I'm 2 seasons in and had 7 injuries spread across my starter and backup GK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Viking said: I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall. I've only had 1 GK injury in 2.5 seasons across two saves, and that was my 3rd choice who got injured for a week while playing in the reserves. Like you, I've always thought injury numbers in FM are too low. I always cringe when I hear the 'too many injuries' whine year after year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo incendio Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 25/10/2023 at 15:29, Bobsy88 said: Hey, I'm just wondering if SI have ever released a hot fix during the early access/beta. Game is great so far, apart from the injuries - especially to Goalkeepers. No worries if not, will have to wait til the full release but just wondering if any hope of a fix before then? They'll patch stuff during the beta and release the update with the official game release early next month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I've had 1 keeper injury in 3 seasons. He got a strained wrist for 3 weeks. I think some people have obviously gotten really unlucky with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbas2 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 27/10/2023 at 13:58, numbas2 said: I wasn't aware of the GK thing, I just thought when mine broke his arm I was unlucky, and shafted as I don't name one on the bench and the other two were youth players (for a conference south team, despair...) My new GK has now also broke his arm trying to catch the ball. Poor bloke. 6 months after the other GK lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzaflow10 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 28/10/2023 at 09:14, Viking said: I mean, I have had one single keeper injury in, like, four beta saves so far. But I'm one of those guys who thinks there are too few injuries in FM overall. I'm convinced a lot of these people who are experiencing crazy high injury rates are playing max tempo with gegenpress and filling out the training schedule with sessions and double intensity. I've never had crazy injuries until I was using a real life injury mod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Definitely out of hand, had both my Main GK and backup out with longterm injuries TWICE during the same season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkvicd Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 25/10/2023 at 21:43, XaW said: They haven't before, I think. And I doubt they'd do any updates before the release unless it was a technical issue where many people couldn't enter the game itself. A bit too high level of injuries to goalkeepers doesn't fall into something I would call critical, so if I was a betting man, I'd say no updates, at least to that. The regens not developing technicals fix was released during beta last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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