themodelcitizen Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Post here if you spot anything new in the imminent release of the FM24 editor (or if you happen to be one of the lucky few with early access). Any new options? Shortcuts? Have they refined the functionality of any of the broken stuff like non-EU rules and All-Star games? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) I also like to know what are the new features. :P Thanks for sharing in advanced. Edited November 6, 2023 by grade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Finally FM24 is complete. Launching the editor now 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Preparation for FM25 are visible 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Stadium changes have been expanded. Seeing Stadium changes, I am not sure what Stadium Move is needed for. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drajen Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Finally FM24 is complete. Launching the editor now I've updated the FM24 game itself, but the editor - I don't see it yet. When it will be released and how I get it? Nothing in Steam-Library-Collection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, drajen said: I've updated the FM24 game itself, but the editor - I don't see it yet. When it will be released and how I get it? Nothing in Steam-Library-Collection Try restarting Steam. That did it for me. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Paying close attention to this thread before I can get my hands on it too. I've been working on something Python-based to go alongside the editor and I'm not looking forward to having to find out every little bit of data that has changed between 23 and 24. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 We can set a city as host now and let's not forget we can set a maximum number of host nations..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, forameuss said: Paying close attention to this thread before I can get my hands on it too. I've been working on something Python-based to go alongside the editor and I'm not looking forward to having to find out every little bit of data that has changed between 23 and 24. What is that something? OR is still top secret? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 More hosting stuff. You can tell the game to pick from specific groups of nations. So no more Malta games for your home-made European Cup. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Extended stoppage rule has been added as an option. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffin99 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Try restarting Steam. That did it for me. God-level response. Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Don't know which competition uses this one, but a PERMANENT ban after 3 red cards in a season? Sergio Ramos, you are in trouble sir! The text behind seems formatting that hasn't been properly done, so ignore that one. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This could be fun 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, grade said: What is that something? OR is still top secret? Nah, nothing secret, although it will likely end up just something for me (more out of being a complete mess than me hoarding it to be fair!). I've always wanted to do much larger edits rather than just a couple of things here and there, so I've always wanted something that could bypass you needing to sit on the editor and painstakingly use their (largely terrible) interface to do those edits. Always imagined using an Excel spreadsheet (because I find it easier to visualise data using it) that could let you map out your data, change little bits of it, and generate a new edited XML using that. Tried it a few years ago and it was a bit **** really, but past few months I've tried again and this one seems a lot more stable. Still working out a lot of the issues, but managing to generate a medium sized edit using it. End result is being able to do a total world conversion with it, but we'll see if it ever gets to that point. I assume the new editor will at least have a few new data points (gender already being pointed out). But pretty much everything in the editor has at least one random number associated with it (some multiple numbers), and even though I expect not much will have changed, I'll still need to check over all of them to make sure they're consistent. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Extended stoppage rule has been added as an option. Just noticed two lines below the red block, Should Players Club Fixtures be checked when a national team is picked. Not sure what it does exactly. Don't know the meaning of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, forameuss said: Nah, nothing secret, although it will likely end up just something for me (more out of being a complete mess than me hoarding it to be fair!). I've always wanted to do much larger edits rather than just a couple of things here and there, so I've always wanted something that could bypass you needing to sit on the editor and painstakingly use their (largely terrible) interface to do those edits. Always imagined using an Excel spreadsheet (because I find it easier to visualise data using it) that could let you map out your data, change little bits of it, and generate a new edited XML using that. Tried it a few years ago and it was a bit **** really, but past few months I've tried again and this one seems a lot more stable. Still working out a lot of the issues, but managing to generate a medium sized edit using it. End result is being able to do a total world conversion with it, but we'll see if it ever gets to that point. I assume the new editor will at least have a few new data points (gender already being pointed out). But pretty much everything in the editor has at least one random number associated with it (some multiple numbers), and even though I expect not much will have changed, I'll still need to check over all of them to make sure they're consistent. I have 3000 hours in the FM22 editor, I see your point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This looks it is saying you will be disqualified if not playing enough players of said rule. I vote U21 rule in the European Cups :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 This one under Child Competition/Regional Rules look like they are new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: I have 3000 hours in the FM22 editor, I see your point Yeah, I get that what I'm trying to do isn't really what the editor is for, but there's a lot of work that could go in to making it a lot more user-friendly to work with. Lots of obfuscation and closed-off parts that make it a lot more awkward than it could be. Still, it remains a massive credit that SI continue to offer such a powerful tool for free, even if it is ugly as sin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Oh, we can set the newgen intake day for a competition now 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, forameuss said: Yeah, I get that what I'm trying to do isn't really what the editor is for, but there's a lot of work that could go in to making it a lot more user-friendly to work with. Lots of obfuscation and closed-off parts that make it a lot more awkward than it could be. Oh, I agree. I have the feeling that much of what SI does with competitions can be done with the editor, but the accesibility is not great for people who are not IT minded or have the patience to dig and test things out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Oh, we can set the newgen intake day for a competition now I'd love to know the thinking behind a few of these weird ones. You can set the day of the intake, great. Why the variance though? What's the necessity of making the date dynamic behind the scenes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I think it makes for easier changing of seasons. I am building the Soviet competition which is spring-autumn, but if you want it autumn-spring, it can be changed. If this is the start of being able to set what the newgen intake does exactly, I am all for it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Won't screenshot these, but a lot of set pieces coach items added under people, club, competition among others. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The Youth Intake feature is quite nice for my USA personal file. Good one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 There is an item called Player partnerships under Club, but when I fill in players, they are not shown, so not sure what it should do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 You can affilaite a women's club. I assume swapping players is out of the question though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owncredible Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It'd be nice if they implemented better youth intake for the USA, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Though, being able to set the date is pretty nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurkaDurk69 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: There is an item called Player partnerships under Club, but when I fill in players, they are not shown, so not sure what it should do. It is old(2years now?) You know those green lines in the tactic screen? This is supposed to do that Never worked though lol Edited November 6, 2023 by HurkaDurk69 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 With all the supporting changes making it into the db for women's football, I wonder if there's enough of the building blocks to make a fist of adding that for 24... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, forameuss said: With all the supporting changes making it into the db for women's football, I wonder if there's enough of the building blocks to make a fist of adding that for 24... I think the only issue is players. Clubs and competitions is easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The past transfers looks to be for the 3 different game variants you can play. Question I have with this sheet, is that if you add to this page for players, if you can edit it in FM24, then load it into FM25, FM26, FM27, FM28, which would mean you 'relive' the game with all those transfers taking place. Boring for some, fun for others. Edited: Wrong screenshot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonstreet Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: I think the only issue is players. Clubs and competitions is easy. I'm looking into potentially making a Women's DB for this year...we'll see. testing a few things out first. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Tribunal fee is a new one. No idea what it does or add as it is in player history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbles Quin ®™ Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 kinda ffed up with no Japan in the list of countries though, kinda have to do everything from scratch now... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Tribunal fee is a new one. No idea what it does or add as it is in player history. It's an old system where if the selling and buying club couldn't agree a fee (usually for a youth player), an independent tribunal would set it. Must just be for historical records. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Robbles Quin ®™ said: kinda ffed up with no Japan in the list of countries though, kinda have to do everything from scratch now... Please log that one as a bug (if you haven't done so already. We had it with Canada and Latvia in previous versions. Btw, is loading up the FM23 version into the editor an option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbles Quin ®™ Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Please log that one as a bug (if you haven't done so already. We had it with Canada and Latvia in previous versions. Btw, is loading up the FM23 version into the editor an option? not atm, due to the complete overhaul on the online database ive done lol. could possible be the reason its crashing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Have they revealed the ethnicity/2nd nationality tab yet? Asking for a friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Fredrik said: Have they revealed the ethnicity/2nd nationality tab yet? Asking for a friend. Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemson Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: Finally FM24 is complete. Launching the editor now how did you even launch editor? can't do it :/ just having in game editor, can't find pre-game editor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbles Quin ®™ Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nemson said: how did you even launch editor? can't do it :/ just having in game editor, can't find pre-game editor search for it in library under tools Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plektrum Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I have just installed FM24 via Game Pass. Does anyone know how I can find the editor there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motobaka Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 hace 1 hora, Nemson dijo: how did you even launch editor? can't do it :/ just having in game editor, can't find pre-game editor Restart Steam, it worked for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Plektrum said: I have just installed FM24 via Game Pass. Does anyone know how I can find the editor there? IIRC the editor for gamepass was having issues. SI is looking into that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: Please log that one as a bug (if you haven't done so already. We had it with Canada and Latvia in previous versions. Btw, is loading up the FM23 version into the editor an option? FYI checking a few files from FM23 in new editor 1. it is super slow even loading the data 2.Seeing failed changes search doesnt find the failed change/any changes at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 only tried one edit so far in advanced rules wow not a good start 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, Roy Race 9 said: FYI checking a few files from FM23 in new editor 1. it is super slow even loading the data 2.Seeing failed changes search doesnt find the failed change/any changes at all Can you check if you can find it via the Database Changes list? Loading times are worth a bug logged (if not already done by someone else), I am at 30 seconds for a DB load in FM24 and 6 seconds in FM23, that's a big difference. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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