rp1966 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) On the goals/assists thing - here's mine. Thanks to the person that pointed out this screen's location - I knew it was in the game, but couldn't remember how to get to it (damn FMs nests of screens!), Goal locations: ... and corresponding assist locations Edited December 4, 2023 by rp1966 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzek Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, herne79 said: The Board (and the Media) think I use a Wingplay style. I don't believe you... maybe it only happens to you!!! 10 minutes ago, herne79 said: As an aside there seems to be something wrong with the data - according to the data below I've scored 67 goals along with 57 assists (positional map) or 61 assists (assist types). The funny thing is I actually scored 98 league goals in the last 45 matches, so something's not adding up. Have you reported it as a bug? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, whatsupdoc said: Go to analysis, click on the second big bar titled scoring (from memory). Then click on the assists tab near the smaller graphics. I think with the AMCs a lot of the roles make forward runs from an already high line so they won't be in position to receive in zone 14 as much as you'd like. With the 4-3-3 they move into that space and mine do ok with "more direct passing" and "try killer balls" PPM on. But getting creativity from that area has been tricky in the last few FMs for me. I still can't find this by analysis do you mean datahub? If so I don't even have a tab called scoring or anything even remotely like that 😂 I used to like looking at these before they moved them and hid them away somewhere...where I now have no idea. The UI in FM is a labyrinthine mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 @steve.bs69 - Please don't spam screenshots in here, you've posted in the bug tracker about crosses, and that's where bugs should go. There is no need to post endless amounts of screenshots in here anymore, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigogc Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutos atrás, kiwityke1983 disse: I still can't find this by analysis do you mean datahub? If so I don't even have a tab called scoring or anything even remotely like that 😂 I used to like looking at these before they moved them and hid them away somewhere...where I now have no idea. The UI in FM is a labyrinthine mess. The path is data hub -> team -> analysis report -> click on scoring -> and you have the goals/assists/position to choose from 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said: I still can't find this by analysis do you mean datahub? If so I don't even have a tab called scoring or anything even remotely like that 😂 I used to like looking at these before they moved them and hid them away somewhere...where I now have no idea. The UI in FM is a labyrinthine mess. Data Hub - > Team -> Analyst Report, but it won't show up unless you have a performance analyst. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
João14 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Is there any word from SI team about poor technicals development? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, XaW said: Data Hub - > Team -> Analyst Report, but it won't show up unless you have a performance analyst. Thank you. I also have the most basic analytical staff possible so that would be why I don't have these reports. I have some basic numbers instead which say 36% of goals come from through balls and 40% from crosses. My guess the rest would be from set pieces and long balls. Which would tally with what I thought they'd be about from just watching the games. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve.bs69 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 By the way is it possibile to uninstall and reinstall without the patch? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve.bs69 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 13 minuti fa, XaW ha scritto: @steve.bs69 - Please don't spam screenshots in here, you've posted in the bug tracker about crosses, and that's where bugs should go. There is no need to post endless amounts of screenshots in here anymore, thanks. Sorry didn't know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyo666 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 In my save ive been messing round a bit and it seems as long as a player has good physicals and mentals you can put them anywhere......striker wingback.....CD as an AF-h will bang goals in....Technicals dont mattervery much at all now which is a shambles -I think this is a massive issue....has anyone else noticed this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigogc Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutos atrás, dannyo666 disse: In my save ive been messing round a bit and it seems as long as a player has good physicals and mentals you can put them anywhere......striker wingback.....CD as an AF-h will bang goals in....Technicals dont mattervery much at all now which is a shambles -I think this is a massive issue....has anyone else noticed this? That is true. Managing St pauli, I had Nicolas Siri scoring 21 gols in Bundesliga even though he is not a great striker, and he was young. He hasn't developed as I expected and I sold him, his career declined massively, he went to a 2nd division Mexican Club. Okay, this is not unusual (players having a great season and declining) but the point is, he is an average striker to score 21 gols in Bundesliga, and I manage St pauli, back then I was struggling to not get relegated. Look at his 2025/26 season, 34 games, 21 gols, an average striker playing for a club that had just been 1 season in Bundesliga. What seems to me, is that happiness and morale gives a boost to many players, it doesn't matter much their attributes. As long as they are happy, they will perform. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mush1983 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rodrigogc said: That is true. Managing St pauli, I had Nicolas Siri scoring 21 gols in Bundesliga even though he is not a great striker, and he was young. He hasn't developed as I expected and I sold him, his career declined massively, he went to a 2nd division Mexican Club. Okay, this is not unusual (players having a great season and declining) but the point is, he is an average striker to score 21 gols in Bundesliga, and I manage St pauli, back then I was struggling to not get relegated. Look at his 2025/26 season, 34 games, 21 gols, an average striker playing for a club that had just been 1 season in Bundesliga. What seems to me, is that happiness and morale gives a boost to many players, it doesn't matter much their attributes. As long as they are happy, they will perform. that can happen irl not often but it does this is based on premier league tho not bundesliga https://sport.optus.com.au/news/premier-league/os7456/one-season-wonders-premier-league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rodrigogc said: What seems to me, is that happiness and morale gives a boost to many players, it doesn't matter much their attributes. As long as they are happy, they will perform. I find this too. One of the devs said last week that a player with 17 for finishing may finish at a 13 rating if their morale, happiness etc was off. It often feels the other way around too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyo666 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Saliba got 16 goals for in a season playing upfront-all types of goals....looked like a world class striker...you could not tell the difference between hin and gabby jesus whilst watching...granted i was just fiddleing around with things but this explains a lot for me and the match engine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjferguson90 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Very quickly getting very tired of dominating every game (15+ shots), scoring one or two, whilst the opposition have one shot and one goal. It seems every opponent is just stupidly clinical on this version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, rjferguson90 said: Very quickly getting very tired of dominating every game (15+ shots), scoring one or two, whilst the opposition have one shot and one goal. It seems every opponent is just stupidly clinical on this version. Seeing a small but welcome change in goals from both teams in my save. Player-wise: I'm 5.5 goals over my xG, 1 goal over my xGA, most players are over their xG. Two of the teams above are outliers in xGA so maybe there's some cursed tactic or instruction IDK. Edited December 4, 2023 by whatsupdoc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanster1405 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just had a bug - unable to click match review after a game. Already submitted to the bug forum, hoping for a positive response as this Torino save will be a long term save for me. I have enough coaches and all, still unable to click match review. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjferguson90 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 34 goals on a 5-game matchday seems pretty mad, pretty much averaging 7 goals a game. Feel like this could still do with some tweaking. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzek Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Is there any way to disable inductions pop ups? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jlboybeamer Posted December 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 Started a totally new save on the latest update 24.2 currently one and a half season in: So I watch all the games like a lunatic. I don't sim matches , I don't go on holiday both in game and real life lol A few odd things has happened. In my opinion these are a few things that I have noticed which is bad since the update. These are my own opinion and feedback you may have a different experience to mine. I have to admit I was very excited to start a new save, as I really want to start a long term save now after the initial disappointment of this year's release. However, I will say that I have been left disappointed with what Sports Interactive has produced with their latest patch. This year has just really failed to live up to the hype as the most complete version yet and the supposed homage to football has been rendered a homage to features riddled with bugs both old ones and new. There is potential in the game to be the best yet, but I seriously doubt it will fulfill its potential as most of the issues remain unsolved and I doubt they will have much time left to fix these as I assume they will focus entirely on FM25. I wish someone could take the time to make a list and compile all of the old bugs that has been reported over the years so we can track which ones has been fixed and which ones have been in the game for a few versions now. So we can really see how well Sports Interactive "Fix" these bugs and listen to our feedback seriously. With that being said let's begin with the good things! Match Engine And Gameplay Improvements - Improved goalkeeper in saving shots. Less goals in general specially from throw ins Less corner near post goals I used to score 15+ goals with Saliba and Gabriel but that's now down to less than 10 each. More blocks and last-ditch goal saving tackles. More misplaced passes specially between defenders and goalkeepers. More red and yellow cards Marginally better A.I substitutions and rotations More penalties Sadly thats where the good things end in my opinion The Bad ! Match Engine Still no hand balls 1 and a half seasons in 0 instance of handball occurring. Still hardly any through balls , through the defense or over the defense, most of the goals come from the wing. And even in 3 vs 2 situations or 2 vs 1 situation the players tend to run out wide instead of passing it through into space. DIrect Free Kick/direct shot goals still way to low and rare - 3 goals direct free kick goals half way through the season is insanely inaccurate in past seasons for example 2021/2022 - 19 direct free kick goals. Less fluid passing play leading to goals. I don't see as many goals that made me say " Woah " or just admire what the match engine can present. Less curling shots/goals from distance Too few VAR approved goals , 90% VAR replays goal isn't given always offside. More penalties missed I believe this is a little bit too high. I had both Jorginho and Saka miss 4 consecutive times. AMC and AF Roles nerfed too much I had to play around player instructions for AMC to function like it used to pre patch. Attacking midfielders don't assist or score like they used to pre patch their movement seems off too occupying the same space as an Advanced forward. Odegaard pretty much guaranteed to have 10 goals and 15 assist in a season now, it's more like 5 goals and 10 assists. Advanced forwards have a big issue regarding getting the ball enough from other players during matches, in most matches they only get 1-2 shots. I appreciate that these changes were made to push the overall goal amount down. End of the 1st season Haaland finished as top scorer more worringly only 6 players finished with more than 15 goals and 0 players over 20 goals .... Haaland underperformance/Nerf ? I thought when man city finished 6th in my 1st season that it was only a one-off Guardiola was sacked. But halfway through my second season they still sucked and are even worse than prior currently outside the top 6. What is up with this ? Correlation between the nerf for strikers? I mean half way through the second season Haaland is still only on 8 goals... he's also been rested/unselected for god knows what reason the A.I has in 6 league games so far half way through the season. They shouldn't be resting him if they're not even in the top 4 ! I mean its good and all that he's bad for me but I don't think this is very realistic there has to be something wrong with the strikers in this patch. Gameplay Good More upsets between big teams and small teams Bad Tactics - why are so many teams using IFB and IWB such as Nothingham Forest and Fulham like really now? I mean these playing styles is a fairly new phenomenon and there are hardly any players who can actually perform those roles fully in real life ! Big home advantage bias its not rare to beat a team 5-1 at home and then lose 4-0 at their home. I know it happens in real life but it it happens far too often in game. Contract salary demands are still insanely high both when buying youth and negotiating new contracts - If you try to sign 17-18 year olds they mostly want 10K+ per week at arsenal but if you look at existing youth contracts none are even over 5k+ per week ! Jeez some 17 year olds who just have potential but aren't wonderkids yet want 20-30k right away ? Some players in La liga that are in the starting 11 get that. Just doesn't make any sense. In my other save in the original release teams 3 years on have some insane unsustainable wage budget set up like 6 players on 400-500k per week. When negotiating for extensions why does the players ask for 40-50%+ increase each time ? That kind of increase doesn't even happen that often in real life unless you're a literal superstar. Yet in game regular starters want star money lol its insane and this isn't anything new.? 5 Star coaches are way too rare like how are we meant to develop our youth to their maximum potential ? Or does this not have any bearing on their development ? In previous FM's there was a lot more 5 star coaches. The assistant coach recommends/auto selects is broken, almost like he wants to get you sacked with his selection this was fine previously I don't know what happened with the recent update but if you don't watch who they select at times they select an odd starting 11. Still dumb that players that have transfer offers don't leave even if you offer to pay some of their wages and the teams their going to they will get starting minutes and the team isn't bad. For example Eddi Nkettiah turned down a 50m bid from Brighton and Villareal. I have even tried to force him out by putting him in under 21's , interacting with him telling him to fix his conduct for no reason so that his morale will go down but still he stays lol. He ended up accepting a 35m offer from Benfica for a role on the bench though. Smart A.I indeed. Loans - what is the point of me offering to clubs with specific playing time as regular minutes only for 20+ clubs to return with fringe playing time offers? Like what is the point in this feature really? Why can't it just return 0 clubs if they aren't willing to give the playing time that I want it can't be that hard to code this function/behavior. Like logically speaking. Transfers A.I still dumb - teams tend to buy players with the less ability than what they already have or in a best-case scenario someone of equivalent ability like for example man city sent Julian alvarez on loan only to buy Benjamin Sesko for 99 million and Joao Felix .... like Haaland doesn't exist. Umar Sadiq in Newcastle where they already have two players of similar style in Isak and Callum Wilson. The newly promoted teams don't seem to buy much either or when they do hardly any of the players they sign start for the team ! For example Leeds - only 4 players signed only 1 starts for them the rest aren't good enough. Or they spend 20-30 million or a big chunk of their transfer budget on 29+ year olds. Players still cry when you praise them for good form etc. its STILL EXACTLY THE SAME AS FM23 albeit even a little worse. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makavali Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I've played a good amount since the last patch and although at first I was happy with the scorelines, sadly, it seems that they're still a bit too much. I haven't seen any crazy ones like 7-3 etc, but there are too many 3-3's, 4-3's, etc. Hopefully, SI can tinker with them a bit more. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davienene Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 20:12, GOODNAME said: After the patch i have a bug in the 3rd Engine that all the players have the same faces having this problem, anyone with a solution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti Ago Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 22 horas atrás, rp1966 disse: I guess it must be down to the the players/roles elsewhere in the team because my AMC (an AM(At) in a 4-2-3-1 DM) is the absolute star of the show. Last season joint top scorer; most assists and highest rating. This season (only 5 games so far) already top scorer and highest rated - only joint leader on assists so far. What may be part of the reason is that my AMC is the best player in the team by quite a margin, so maybe that means the ME focuses more play through him than if I had more comparable level players around him. I guess I'll find out as I strengthen the squad and my high potential young players improve.. Have to say the same . My first season AMC AP(s) with just One pi (hold the ball) was man of the season with 15 goals and assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Addick Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Beyond frustrating that after years and years they haven’t fixed the players getting yellow cards after 1 or 2 minutes. Happens so frequently in game. So rarely IRL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Popular Post Zachary Whyte Posted December 4, 2023 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, makavali said: I've played a good amount since the last patch and although at first I was happy with the scorelines, sadly, it seems that they're still a bit too much. I haven't seen any crazy ones like 7-3 etc, but there are too many 3-3's, 4-3's, etc. Hopefully, SI can tinker with them a bit more. Hi, we're happy with the goal numbers at the moment, currently our numbers are lower than real life. For example, this weekend in the PL, 4-3, 3-3, 3-2, 2-2, 5-0 And the last Champions League Fixtures had, 6-0, 3-3, 4-2, 3-3, 3-2, 3-1, 3-1, 3-2 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioNOW Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hi, we're happy with the goal numbers at the moment, currently our numbers are lower than real life. For example, this weekend in the PL, 4-3, 3-3, 3-2, 2-2, 5-0 And the last Champions League Fixtures had, 6-0, 3-3, 4-2, 3-3, 3-2, 3-1, 3-1, 3-2 At this point I'm convinced that IRL football is just a cheap simulation/projection of the FM match engine. Goalie blunders (Hamburg derby, Onana), strikers scoring bicycle kicks (Garnacho, Auba) and trivelas (Wes Burns) left and right , stoppage time goals mostly (PL or Roma in general) and scorelines that represent hockey matches...just in the past 2 weeks. Down on the line, give us a few months and we will be complaining about the unrealistic under 8 goals/matches or no acrobatic stunners or inexplicable own goals in every game based on this nonsense going on in the football world currently . And for sure FM stimulates the referee/VAR decision on a way superior level than the incompetence we see on an average weekend on the coverage. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makavali Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hi, we're happy with the goal numbers at the moment, currently our numbers are lower than real life. For example, this weekend in the PL, 4-3, 3-3, 3-2, 2-2, 5-0 And the last Champions League Fixtures had, 6-0, 3-3, 4-2, 3-3, 3-2, 3-1, 3-1, 3-2 Fair enough. I'm playing in Latvia which is a notoriously low-scoring league, perhaps that's why it seems worse than it is. I wish the average scorelines would differ depending on the quality of the league. For example, the high scores are fine for the Premier League or the UCL, but it's very, very, very rare to have two 5+ goal games in the same matchday in, let's say, Polish Ekstraklasa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzek Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) @GOODNAME and @Davienene try clear your cache and delete your preferences folder. I have a problem with "black ball" and when i did that everything was okay again! Edited December 4, 2023 by dzek 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etebaer Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Thx to SI to make CaC compatible with the league mods that add the german lower leagues again! It was not possible for quite a while so i checked it less and less but it seems that it already is possible in the latest FM23 version and right now in FM24. This is great bcs it offers a little more functionality than the ingame editor and does not count as having used the ingame editor while playing! PS: Oh well, to spoil my pleasure having find out i can use CaC again i also found that the ingame editor is more expensive than last year and still not offers the functionality the CaC Editor offers. Changing he Club Logo is not available and naming the Stadium seems also not possible...therefore i feel the ingame editor is to expensively priced! Edited December 4, 2023 by Etebaer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRovers Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I've been saying this every year for a while now, but the squad building issues really do make the game a lot less fun. It's especially egregious at midtable teams in the top flight, where in reality there's a fair bit of churn with new managers adopting new systems, players running down contracts and so on - in FM Everton, Brentford, Brighton etc just have the same squads for years and years and years. Very boring and very immersion-sapping. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golob Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Possibly I missed this information, but could someone from SI or chat members clarify if another patch is planned before Christmas?… so that I could plan a new save. Thanks. Currently playing FM23, also have FM24, but I think it is one patch away from becoming a better version (assuming the patch will be an overall improvement). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Golob said: Possibly I missed this information, but could someone from SI or chat members clarify if another patch is planned before Christmas?… so that I could plan a new save. Thanks. Currently playing FM23, also have FM24, but I think it is one patch away from becoming a better version (assuming the patch will be an overall improvement). As far as I know, no such info has been released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
molsen Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hi, we're happy with the goal numbers at the moment, currently our numbers are lower than real life. For example, this weekend in the PL, 4-3, 3-3, 3-2, 2-2, 5-0 And the last Champions League Fixtures had, 6-0, 3-3, 4-2, 3-3, 3-2, 3-1, 3-1, 3-2 Actually, thats not really good in my oppinion. Less goals also means more boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3nrique_SEP Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Why is this staff information not available on the default skin? And does anybody has recommendation of a skin that looks more like the original game but with this infos and instant result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koffing Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I thought this was fixed. Mara recalled after playing 23 games out of 27 because he is not played regularly ? Stop putting placebo fixes in patch notes I tho 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycarrie Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 He is the corner GOD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muja Posted December 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 This delightful play is straight from FM 2017. This is precisely what's missing in the current match engine (actually, more or less from FM18 onward), as @akkm explained in detail. Yes, it can happen, but it's extremely rare, to the point of being almost nonexistent. In most cases, when the ball reaches that area of the field, the player either takes a long shot or recycles the ball out wide. They fail to "see" the pass. This significantly reduces the usefulness of AMC because to have a greater impact in creating chances, they need to move laterally – something they don't do often enough. Through balls like this typically occur from deeper positions (the mezzalas are particularly good at this). The ironic part is that through balls from that position are even HARDER irl. Now, does this rarely happen irl, too? Yes, of course, but it's not THAT rare. Is this a game-breaking issue or makes it unplayable? Absolutely not. I believe this ME is the best in years, and I'm having a lot of fun. But isn't it still worth discussing? If the developers could improve this aspect of the ME, it would just be another step in making the entire experience more enjoyable and realistic, right? 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makavali Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, molsen said: Actually, thats not really good in my oppinion. Less goals also means more boring. If you love a lot of goals, nobody is stopping you from playing a 4-2-4 Gegenpress without any defensive duties 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccordoba Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Can someone explain me this, am I living in a lie? How are they first? Edited December 4, 2023 by ccordoba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T. Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I play the series since cm2 95/96. since FM 2019, I play every match hoping I don’t win the match. It’s too easy. It becomes boring. In the past it was a challenge to become champions with almost every team, now you become it with AS Roma first season. I play always plug and play tactic, don’t do any team management and I’m succesful. What went wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sugarbear0511 Posted December 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 59 minutes ago, Muja said: This delightful play is straight from FM 2017. This is precisely what's missing in the current match engine (actually, more or less from FM18 onward), as @akkm explained in detail. Yes, it can happen, but it's extremely rare, to the point of being almost nonexistent. In most cases, when the ball reaches that area of the field, the player either takes a long shot or recycles the ball out wide. They fail to "see" the pass. This significantly reduces the usefulness of AMC because to have a greater impact in creating chances, they need to move laterally – something they don't do often enough. Through balls like this typically occur from deeper positions (the mezzalas are particularly good at this). The ironic part is that through balls from that position are even HARDER irl. Now, does this rarely happen irl, too? Yes, of course, but it's not THAT rare. Is this a game-breaking issue or makes it unplayable? Absolutely not. I believe this ME is the best in years, and I'm having a lot of fun. But isn't it still worth discussing? If the developers could improve this aspect of the ME, it would just be another step in making the entire experience more enjoyable and realistic, right? crazy how FM 17 looks exactly the same as FM 24 lol. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 01/12/2023 at 18:57, IanM110 said: 1? Cheers for COMPLETELY missing the point for some internet upvotes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_CB Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hora atrás, sugarbear0511 disse: crazy how FM 17 looks exactly the same as FM 24 lol. This is blasphemy. Never compare FM17 with any other version. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The About Average Jake Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Can someone please teach me how to defend! I'm giving away 2 goal leads like there're going out of fashion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davienene Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 hours ago, dzek said: @GOODNAME and @Davienene try clear your cache and delete your preferences folder. I have a problem with "black ball" and when i did that everything was okay again! worked perfectlyy, thankss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rashidi Posted December 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 hours ago, rp1966 said: On the goals/assists thing - here's mine. Thanks to the person that pointed out this screen's location - I knew it was in the game, but couldn't remember how to get to it (damn FMs nests of screens!), Goal locations: ... and corresponding assist locations This page has data that does not add up, it’s yet another area of the game that SI has slipped up with. It’s showing that I in the last 5 games I have had two assists from my AMC. Great AMCs work if only I were using one, wait I don’t. I use a 442. So where did those 2 AMC assists come from.? Maybe the workflow on this screen should be improved so that when you change the number of games it recalculates everything, but is a user expected to know this? I don’t know. So if this data page is inconsistent how can we rely on it being accurate. I do not want to sound negative, but if someone asks if I have submitted a bug report, I might throw a fit. I thought this game was meant to be a finished product. It does seem that FM24 despite a great match engine has a “fix it as we go” feel which makes it an extremely annoying. I might be a mod, but there is a line even I have to draw in the sand. 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post akkm Posted December 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rashidi said: This page has data that does not add up, it’s yet another area of the game that SI has slipped up with. It’s showing that I in the last 5 games I have had two assists from my AMC. Great AMCs work if only I were using one, wait I don’t I use a 442, so where did those 2 AMC assists come from. So if this data page is inconsistent how can we rely on it being accurate. I do not want to sound negative, but if someone asks if I have submitted a bug report, I might throw a fit. I thought this game was meant to be a finished product. It does seem that FM24 despite a great match engine has a “fix it as we go” feel which makes it an extremely annoying. I might be a mod, but there is a line even I have to draw in the sand. Well said rashidi. I've refrained from going in on the marketing promises pre launch but its quite astonishing the state of the game versus the whole impression created prior in terms of what state it would be in before moving to 25. I'll comment further after all the fixes are in but regardless of that it shouldn't have required all these fixes given the statements about what fm24 was supposed to be before release. It just seems disingenuous and a rather large case of an overpromise undeliver scenario...and thats just me treating it far too kindly quite frankly 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeru Posted December 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 Honestly the only improvement about this entire game is you can now make a 3 2 build up shape with the inverted full back role. That’s it that’s your most polished version ever, for all the promise of the ME the initial build up phase is great but approach the final third and it’s like football regresses 30 years into the past and we are right back in 90’s England - ball wide stand up a cross to the far post, ball wide blocked out for a corner, nod the set piece home 1-0 rinse reapeat. as for the shambles of the rest of the game the now standard interface bugs are still present and correct the interaction module lacks even more context than ever and the morale module is just a bare faced balancing algorithm attempt to make the game have some level of challenge by making professional elite level players act like teenagers. Do SI even pay attention to the actual real game at all? In real life people bemoan that the characters have gone out of the game as players are so professional now but yeah SI think it’s a simulation. if this is the love letter to the series then I have to say for the first time in 25 years I’m done with final straw game over. im off to delete my manage avatar in all its face painted glory………… 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hi, we're happy with the goal numbers at the moment, currently our numbers are lower than real life. For example, this weekend in the PL, 4-3, 3-3, 3-2, 2-2, 5-0 And the last Champions League Fixtures had, 6-0, 3-3, 4-2, 3-3, 3-2, 3-1, 3-1, 3-2 IRL high goal numbers have increased due to having 5 subs and up to 10 minutes extra time . Personally I don't like it but that's just the way it is . Seems many goals IRL are coming after the 80 min mark . FM24s simulation for goals is spot on I think but maybe we are all use to the days when 1-0 or 2-0 etc were the norm . Well done I say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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