Games 31 and 32: Denmark vs Serbia live from the Fußball Arena München ITV4 8pm AND England vs Slovenia live from the Cologne Stadium ITV1 8pm

[Zeonflux]

1 minute ago, Baptista_8 said:

Have we made a single cutting pass through the lines this tourny?

Gallagher made a great headed through ball…….it was for Sesko though

[Gizmo7]

What’s going on with Bellingham? So sloppy I can’t believe it’s the same player.

[sc91]

Brilliant, even the ref was like **** your ****.

[Robson 07]

Kane off.

Gallagher off.

Trippier off.

If Shaw is not ready for 45mins by the end of the group stage, he shouldn't have been taken. 

[av3ry]

When are they going to play with the same passion they play for their clubs?

[enigmatic]

Just now, Haguey said:

I think having Grealish here running into the defenders and giving the ball away would be even more infuriating, somehow

the irony is that much as 90% of people cheered when Rashford wasn't in the side, the ability to lob the ball over the top in his general direction when the opposition follows Kane up the pitch would be game changing, even if we still couldn't do anything fluidly. 

 

[Gizmo7]

Foden probably the brightest player for us in that half, but still nowhere near the player he is for City. Kane just bafflingly deep, to the point of being a parody of himself. Rice sloppy. Gallagher sloppy. Eurghhh 

[arenaross]

Kane is not helping really, is he? About as mobile as my gran. 

[The Amazing Dale Watkins]

3 minutes ago, sc91 said:

Currently wrestling with the sofa to not have a nap, England are like the footballing equivalent of whale noises.

Two whales sit in a pub. The first whale goes "whoooooooooooo oooooooooooaaa whooooeeeee wheeeeeoooo". Says the second whale: "Shut up, Frank. This is just the group stage."

[BigV]

Just now, Robson 07 said:

If Shaw is not ready for 45mins by the end of the group stage, he shouldn't have been taken. 

Taken hendersons job, morale booster

[Haguey]

Kane -> Watkins

Start with that

[Pedwar Pump]

Gallagher is like a bloody weighted training vest for this team, he offers literally nothing.

Kane off, Gordon on, Foden/Bellingham through the middle.

[ajw10]

Just now, av3ry said:

When are they going to play with the same passion they play for their clubs?

Passion has absolutely nothing to do with it

They play better for their clubs largely because they have better managers who can build functioning teams.

Indefensible that Southgate has persisted with Trippier behind Foden for this long. Something has to give.

[The_jagster]

Pundits should be saying how great we are to fill them with confidence.

I mean Slovenia aren't too fussed about winning but this is absolute *****

[Pukey]

Just now, arenaross said:

Kane is not helping really, is he? About as mobile as my gran. 

If he spent less energy running back playing DM he might be able to press more effectively.

Kane dropping has had its benefits over the years but it's causing issues in this set up.

[TalkSport]

That clip. Kane dropping into space where Rice is and stands behind him  

[Mr Adam]

2 minutes ago, arenaross said:

Kane is not helping really, is he? About as mobile as my gran. 

Sorry to hear your gran is in such a bad way 

[Robson 07]

Postecoglou really is the new Harry Redknapp.  It's simple lads, play better and run around more. 

[Coulthard's Jaw]

Does feel like we're watching Southgate's authority draining away.

[Haguey]

Trippier has shown he is great with his delivery, put him where Walker is and bring Trent/Gomez/anyone to fill on the left, because Walker's pace is useless here

[Gizmo7]

We’re at the “yeah but let’s remember, team X are no mugs” level of punditry 

[JJ72]

Southgate is just another Ten Hag, I'm losing the will to watch football

[Bootador]

Bellingham has to drop to 8 or Wharton has to come on.

They have to try something for the next stage. I appreciate Kane has been bobbins, but Kane is playing in the next round. It doesn't help the line up then.

[Smallen]

If Jarrod Bowen is our first sub on 60 minutes I think I might lose it with Gareth  

[Gizmo7]

Does Kane drop this deep for Bayern? How does he score so many club goals when he spends so much time at left back?

[Gizmo7]

Southgate gonna Southgate

[CFuller]

3 minutes ago, Gizmo7 said:

We’re at the “yeah but let’s remember, team X are no mugs” level of punditry 

Fast forward to two years time... "There are no easy games in international football, even against the Cayman Islands."

[Robson 07]

1 minute ago, Bootador said:

Bellingham has to drop to 8 or Wharton has to come on.

They have to try something for the next stage. I appreciate Kane has been bobbins, but Kane is playing in the next round. It doesn't help the line up then.

Southgate needs to watch the game not the name on the back of the shirts. 

[Bootador]

1 minute ago, Smallen said:

If Jarrod Bowen is our first sub on 60 minutes I think I might lose it with Gareth  

68 minutes. 2nd sub.

First sub will be... drum roll.... 

Spoiler

Trent for Gallagher

 

[TalkSport]

The lack of actual coaching is finally catching up Southgate. 

We’ll string something 2nd half and win, but it’s nothing to do with actual stuff from training ground. Just a poorly coached side where it’ll catch up as soon as we face a competent side. Like the Denmark game in knock out stage would likely see us out.

[InigoPatinkin]

6 minutes ago, av3ry said:

When are they going to play with the same passion they play for their clubs?

I imagine when they get the same level of instruction and play with players they have that level of cohesion with.

[SouthCoastRed]

I'm going for the "if I stop watching it'll get better" tactic, you can all thank me later

[av3ry]

Got Cole Palmer on. 22 league goals more than any other Englishman in the Premier League. Please do not put Bowen on instead again.

[ajw10]

Just now, Gizmo7 said:

Does Kane drop this deep for Bayern? How does he score so many club goals when he spends so much time at left back?

clubs play to his strengths. He needs two wide players and two forward thinking midfielders to unlock him.

Foden cannot play LW in this system, especially with Trippier behind.

There's a reason why Kane has played his best football with Sterling and Saka. Two players that can combine well and also can run in behind and stretch.

It's why Rashford should have gone and why Gordon should be playing

[Coulthard's Jaw]

Just now, TalkSport said:

The lack of actual coaching is finally catching up Southgate. 

We’ll string something 2nd half and win, but it’s nothing to do with actual stuff from training ground. Just a poorly coached side where it’ll catch up as soon as we face a competent side. Like the Denmark game in knock out stage would likely see us out.

Southgate was always a limited coach, he should really have cut and run when he was ahead. Bit sad watching this tbh.

[Smallen]

Just now, av3ry said:

Got Cole Palmer on. 22 league goals more than any other Englishman in the Premier League. Please do not put Bowen on instead again.

weren’t 20 of them penalties tho

[WillHoward42]

Cannot wait for King troll Gareth to sub Trent on for Gallagher after 55-60 minutes

[ajw10]

Just now, Smallen said:

weren’t 20 of them penalties tho

yeah like 9 pens or something

[RTHerringbone]

Let's do Southgate halftime bingo. Zero changes.

[Bootador]

Nah, I'm going Trent for Gallagher at HT.

Statement changes

[Coulthard's Jaw]

MAINOO!

[av3ry]

Mainoo on says ITV.

[Redshift]

MAINOOOOOO

[Wavelberry]

Mainoo for Gallagher. Well...

[Coulthard's Jaw]

It's the right decision but Gallagher has been a disaster

[m_fenton]

Just now, RTHerringbone said:

Let's do Southgate halftime bingo. Zero changes.

Mainoo they're saying.

[TalkSport]

Gallagher for 45 mins  

[Gizmo7]

Oooo a change

[Rob1981]

Gallagher off again  

[The_jagster]

Is Wharton going to make that much of a difference? I don't think I've ever seen him over a full game, don't know what his weaknesses are