FM 25 DEVELOPMENT UPDATE

[SPE3D]

I won't be buying until I see reviews and am happy that the game is worth my money.

[DavutOzkan]

We will get a list of new features, some screen shots, and the release date. 

I guarantee it will not just be the release date. That would be the most asinine marketing decision ever. 

[DMC-12]

8 minutes ago, SPE3D said:

I won't be buying until I see reviews and am happy that the game is worth my money.

Thats how it should be for all games, especially nowadays when they're all digital and there's no scarcity. 

It was different when there were only so many physical copies of a game available in the shops, but that's just not the case now. Its just sensible to wait and see. 

[Champions_09]

What time are we predicting?

[Lord Rowell]

4 minutes ago, Champions_09 said:

What time are we predicting?

23:59 SST September 30th. Which would be 11:59am BST on the 1st October.

Miles said nothing about it being in September specfically by UK time.

Edited 3 hours ago by Lord Rowell

[Eoin Maguire]

So today is the day. If we don't see any match engine or how the UI works/flows today, it will be a terrible sign as to where SI are at rn with 25. The fact that pre orders are scheduled to start today suggests that they should be showing stuff that will make people want to buy the game (new ME/UI etc), but if they don't show us any of that and still expect pre orders, that shows a lack of care for the customer and that they just expect people to buy the game regardless of what state it's in. I really hope it's not the latter...

[Eoin Maguire]

8 minutes ago, Champions_09 said:

What time are we predicting?

I think 4-6pm 

[Champions_09]

1 minute ago, Eoin Maguire said:

I think 4-6pm 

Yeah I thought it may be around that time. Lollujo sort of hinted towards it but to be fair I doubt he knows much,

Edited 2 hours ago by Champions_09

[Craigus89]

17 minutes ago, DavutOzkan said:

We will get a list of new features, some screen shots, and the release date. 

I guarantee it will not just be the release date. That would be the most asinine marketing decision ever. 

You must be new here.

[armbi]

16 minutes ago, Champions_09 said:

What time are we predicting?

23:69 🤔 

[don coop]

8 minutes ago, Champions_09 said:

Yeah I thought it may be around that time. Lollujo sort of hinted towards it but to be fair I doubt he knows much,

The fm25 page is built but it's restricted. Was 404 yesterday. 

My bet is content creator accounts will have access before it goes live.

 Not sure if the URL is allowed but 

https://www.footballmanager.com/games/football-manager-25

Edited 2 hours ago by don coop

[DJ Sir Matthew]

2 minutes ago, don coop said:

The fm25 page is built but it's restricted. Was 404 yesterday. 

My bet is content creator accounts will have access before it goes live.

 Not sure if the URL is allowed but 

https://www.footballmanager.com/games/football-manager-25

There is already even a video about it here https://youtu.be/o-YBDTqX_ZU?si=xQzYFgnSSxaM39XX

 

[iolodavanki]

I thought the announcement was going to be made a Japanese venue, meaning it is getting quite late in Japan, no?

[KillYourIdols]

I'm 100% clutching at straws, but I did have to just acknowledge new Terms and Conditions to the site so....Lawyers are watching, behave

[armbi]

Soooo here we go guys!!!! We've got the official anthem for brand new Football Manager era!!!!

 

 

[DMC-12]

11 minutes ago, DJ Sir Matthew said:

There is already even a video about it here https://youtu.be/o-YBDTqX_ZU?si=xQzYFgnSSxaM39XX

 

Its 2024 and I'm still being caught out by that. 

[themadsheep2001]

1 hour ago, CaptainSa said:

If all we're getting is an announcement, they shouldn't be taking pre-orders today. 

Why not? There are people on this very thread who have said they are going to preorder/buy the game anyway. That caters for those who will want do that. No one has to pre order the game, those who want more information/dont believe in the concept, can just wait. It's not like there are finite copies of FM and you're going to miss out by waiting 

[CaptainSa]

1 minute ago, themadsheep2001 said:

Why not? There are people on this very thread who have said they are going to preorder/buy the game anyway. That caters for those who will want do that. No one has to pre order the game, those who want more information/dont believe in the concept, can just wait. It's not like there are finite copies of FM and you're going to miss out by waiting 

Because, frankly, it's insulting to the player base in this year of all years, when all the news has been terrible and delays to even think about asking for pre-orders before they've showed anything from the actual game.

[Champions_09]

I will only not pre-order if there is no early access. If there isn't there is no point.

 

If they announce a week or two early access I will pre-order

[jmlima]

1 minute ago, CaptainSa said:

Because, frankly, it's insulting to the player base in this year of all years, when all the news has been terrible and delays to even think about asking for pre-orders before they've showed anything from the actual game.

I mean, it's a business decision, there are always those who are easily parted with their money.

But, even the White brothers had more info on their 'game'.

[grade]

2 minutes ago, CaptainSa said:

Because, frankly, it's insulting to the player base in this year of all years, when all the news has been terrible and delays to even think about asking for pre-orders before they've showed anything from the actual game.

You forget the people buy the game just to support SI.

Edited 2 hours ago by grade

[Eoin Maguire]

4 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:

Why not? There are people on this very thread who have said they are going to preorder/buy the game anyway. That caters for those who will want do that. No one has to pre order the game, those who want more information/dont believe in the concept, can just wait. It's not like there are finite copies of FM and you're going to miss out by waiting 

It's disingenuous to ask for pre orders if they haven't shown anything from the new ME or how the new UI works/looks, they know that some people will buy the game regardless, but that's not the point, it's insulting customers intelligence. 

[nusknvp]

Did they just update the terms and conditions to contain the outrage? 😄

[Domoboy23]

My first experience of FM was actually CM99. Since FM05 I believe I've then ordered each copy for release or pre-ordered when that became a thing for beta, early access etc. This year won't be any different. 

From 05 to now of course there's been editions I've loved (12, 13, 24 spring to mind), some I've really not liked (14,18,22) and some which have been middle of the road. When I think about the amount of hours, days, weeks and probably months spent on each edition and spread those over the course of the nearly 20 years... I can say I have value for money. So I don't have any qualms about pre-ordering. If I don't enjoy the game then sure, very disappointing for the year. But the disappointment would be focused on the game itself and enjoyment factor (or lack of) and not on my wallet.

I certainly don't and wouldn't feel ripped off financially if a release isn't to my liking or anticipated standard, and as others have said, you can pre-order (or not) whenever you'd like in the information/release stage! 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Domoboy23

[XaW]

1 minute ago, nusknvp said:

Did they just update the terms and conditions to contain the outrage? 😄

Fishing for a yellow card, are we?

[Omer Senyor]

Today is the day?

Any conformation that the announcement will be today or its just speculation? 

[themadsheep2001]

13 minutes ago, CaptainSa said:

Because, frankly, it's insulting to the player base in this year of all years, when all the news has been terrible and delays to even think about asking for pre-orders before they've showed anything from the actual game.

The player base isn't a homogeneous block. If you don't want to pre order, then dont. Its not some massive insult. I dont pre order anything personally

[KillYourIdols]

 

Edited 2 hours ago by KillYourIdols

[themadsheep2001]

14 minutes ago, grade said:

You forget the people buy the game just to support SI.

Exactly. Its not insulting anyone's intelligence. I think those who have their views on what they need before a pre order, should be open to the fact there are those who dont care and choose to preorder anyway because thats what they like to. As @KillYourIdols has just demonstrated perfectly, although they are sailing very close to speculating 

[Malicious Penguin]

Regardless of what it looks like, I won't be preordering - I don't see the point when it's digital, and ESPECIALLY before videos/reviews/demo comes out. 

[Malicious Penguin]

15 minutes ago, nusknvp said:

Did they just update the terms and conditions to contain the outrage? 😄

Ah, a fellow cynic!

[Craigus89]

17 minutes ago, XaW said:

Fishing for a yellow card, are we?

Tactical foul, he has another in him before a yellow.

[KillYourIdols]

I say this every year, and its relevent for me and can't comment on anyone else, but for £30, Its going to be value for money to me. Will be be the best ever? Probably not. Will it be Rubbish? Possibly. Will I end up doing, lets say, 100 hours on it? Almost certainly. Thats 30p an hour. I'll waste that on a friday night and forget about it by the Saturday morning. Financially, low risk for the entertainment and I enjoy the Beta period.

I don't see how its any different to people blindly attending the Premier of their favourite new movie franchise without seeing reviews/spoilers.

Anyway everyone, you do you.

[jimbo22]

11 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:

The player base isn't a homogeneous block. If you don't want to pre order, then dont. Its not some massive insult. I dont pre order anything personally

Not talking about SI but gaming in general insults its player bases with this practice. Its the players fault though for allowing games companies to start taking in money before we've seen anything worth while about said games.

[andu1]

Lets be hopeful. I dont think they will just announce without any screens of the UI or ME... especially after the backlash received after the last dev update..

[Champions_09]

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[angelo994]

Despite everything I am hyped for news. Here’s hoping for some positive info today. 

[kiwityke1983]

18 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:

The player base isn't a homogeneous block. If you don't want to pre order, then dont. Its not some massive insult. I dont pre order anything personally

I pretty much only pre-order FM and that's for two reasons:

- pre-order discount

- early access beta

If neither of those were there I'd wait until it came out.

[Lord Rowell]

Just popped back on here and was asked to agree to a new set of terms and conditions.

No problem with that btw, just wonder if its a sign of action happening?

[KillYourIdols]

1 minute ago, kiwityke1983 said:

I pretty much only pre-order FM and that's for two reasons:

- pre-order discount

- early access beta

If neither of those were there I'd wait until it came out.

Oh Yeah, Its the Beta that gets you.

[davehanson]

You can cancel you pre-order from Steam anytime up to two weeks AFTER it releases as long as you have no more than 2 hours playtime. The critical part is that Beta access to a game doesn't count towards playtime - so you can pre-order, play the Beta and if you don't like it refund. 

[XV20]

so is it now Football Manager 25 or Football Manager 2025?

[Andrew Marines]

NO WAY IT'S JUST THE ROADMAP KEKW

[h3nrique_SEP]

the site is on

 

Football Manager 25 | From Nov 26

[Costav]

https://www.footballmanager.com/games/football-manager-25

out on 26th november.

 

They basically announced only the release date.

[jimbo22]

5 minutes ago, kiwityke1983 said:

I pretty much only pre-order FM and that's for two reasons:

- pre-order discount

- early access beta

If neither of those were there I'd wait until it came out.

One thing im glad SI havent started, yet, is charging way more to play the game a week early and get some stupid card for those UT modes like EA and 2K do with their games. 

 

EDIT>... if thats the "news" we were told we get before the end of September.... yikes, not a good look fellas. not a good look at all.

Edited 1 hour ago by jimbo22

[Omer Senyor]

That's it???????????

Only a date? 

[karax268]

even the roadmap isn't finished..

[armbi]

Just now, karax268 said:

even the roadmap isn't finished

😂😂😂

[yerug]

Not a fan of this litle info with all the big talk of huge steps for the next game. I think its not what gaming fans expect anymore.

Many games are now live service games, and many others are very good at keeping players in the loop. 

So idk, this fm year feels a bit demotivating to me right now. Thats the feeling im heving. Certainly not hype, thats for sure

 

Edit: Just saw the roadmap. Im not boarding this train this year. Im gonna play many other games instead!

Edited 1 hour ago by yerug