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N.B. I always write my posts in first person, as under the moniker of the character I’m using as my manager. However, I do enjoy creating a backstory, rather than a whole monologue that progresses through the save. This is the story of Francesco D’Anzo. A name that, if you’ve followed my FM24 escapades so far, you may remember.

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Francesco D'Anzi stood at the edge of the field in Stadio Teofilo Patini, the very place where his love for football had taken root. The crisp air of Castel di Sangro was filled with the echoes of his childhood, a time when the impossible had become reality. He was just eight years old when the local club, Castel di Sangro Calcio, had made their miraculous ascent to Serie B in 1996. With a population of just over 5,000, Castel di Sangro’s rise to the second tier of Italian football was nothing short of a fairy tale. The whole town was electrified by football fever, and for eight-year-old Francesco, it was the spark that ignited a lifelong passion.

Born into a modest family, Francesco grew up with his parents and two younger sisters in a small house near the mountains. His father, a factory worker, and his mother, a schoolteacher, instilled in him the values of hard work and perseverance. Every weekend, his father would take him to Stadio Teofilo Patini to watch Castel di Sangro play, fostering Francesco's deep connection to the game. As a child, Francesco spent countless hours kicking a ball around the dusty streets and grassy fields of his hometown. His talent was evident even then; he had an innate understanding of the game, a sharp tactical mind, and a natural grace with the ball at his feet. By the time he was a teenager, local scouts had taken notice, and his dream of playing professional football began to take shape.

At 16, Francesco's life took a dramatic turn when he was scouted by Bayer Leverkusen. The German club saw immense potential in the young Italian and offered him a place in their prestigious youth academy. Leaving his family and the familiar surroundings of Castel di Sangro was a daunting prospect, but Francesco was determined to seize the opportunity. In Germany, Francesco thrived. The rigorous training and high level of competition pushed him to new heights. He quickly rose through the ranks, and it seemed only a matter of time before he would break into the first team. His technical skills, combined with his tactical intelligence, made him a standout player in the academy.

But just as his star was rising, fate dealt him a cruel blow. During a training session, Francesco suffered a severe knee injury that would ultimately end his playing career at just 23 years old. The diagnosis was devastating. For a time, he struggled to come to terms with the end of his dreams of playing professionally.

Despite the setback, Francesco's love for the game never waned. Determined to stay connected to football, he turned his focus to coaching. He returned to Italy and enrolled in the prestigious Coverciano, the Italian football coaching institute. There, he immersed himself in the study of modern football tactics, drawing inspiration from the new wave of managers who emphasized high pressing and fluid movements.  He learned from some of the best minds in football and developed his own coaching philosophy. He believed in a dynamic style of play that relied on teamwork, intelligence, and relentless energy. His approach was a blend of Italian tactical discipline and the attacking flair he had admired during his time in Germany. He delved deep into the intricacies of tactical analysis, sports psychology, and team management. His instructors were seasoned professionals, including former Serie A managers and national team coaches, who provided invaluable insights and mentorship.

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You know where it's at @_Ben_, that's more like it.  For some reason I want to say you were once Padova maybe 15 years or so ago?  Maybe the mind plays tricks, and I got that all wrong?  Of course one of my all time favourites is Pescara, and what is not to like?  Put a dolphin on your badge and you're already winning in life.  Good luck buddy.  I still look at your threads from time to time - not as much as I should - and they're every bit as good as they always were.  Better in fact.  A LEGENDARY FM'er and storyteller.  Take care, man.

(from England Away or EA, as the artist was formerly known on The Dugout :lol:)

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I'm speechless with the start. Absolutely fantastic writing and appealing graphical presentation. Really nice to see you in Italy too. Going to follow this very closely. 

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Really excited to be following along on this journey! Was brought up on Football Italia also, so Italian football always has a place in my heart. 

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@Robson 07, @adam_otbfm, @El Payaso, @CameronFM, @danyates8, @danielgear, @coach vahid and @PequenoGenio - overwhelmed by the support here! Thank you so much. As I've said - Italy is my spiritual footballing home and I hope that I can do it justice in my style of FM! Don't expect too much more stories of D'Anzi's childhood but, hopefully, expect plenty of charts, data viz and other graphical stuff as I deepen my obsession with Playground AI!

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Great intro, and I love the visual graphics in your story banner with your manager profile pic.

After being in Sicily recently myself (and drinking the odd Birra Messina Cristalli Di Sale) I'll absolutely be following this along with the other lower-league Sicily story on these pages.

Whilst researching and setting up my own FM24 story in Italy, I got a fair few iconic James Richardson images ready for inclusion, so hope you won't object when some of them appear in my own updates. Football Italia was iconic for us of a certain vintage where absurdly Serie A was the only live league football we got to see.

Hoping you will have a great time in Sicily (and/or Italy).

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Season 1: Welcome to Messina.

Time to get my feet under the desk and see what I am working with! The interview process was fairly straight forward and, without any experience, I wasn't able to bring in any changes to staff. With just under €100k given to me in January, I might be able to spend but, honestly, I want to 'coach' this team and, from an early insight into the actual playing squad, I think that is what has been lacking!

A. Staff

I quickly established a hierarchy within the staffing structure and have largely been impressed at what is on offer here. Below are my key staff at this point:

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Chairman Pietro Sciotto's job here is to hire DoF and Technical Director, which does present a challenge to me as Domenico Roma or Michael Tosi are particularly strong at their job but, given the historical figures that have popped up in Italian football leadership before - cough, Palermo's twenty-four managers in ten years, cough - I feel that I need to stay on his good, and realistic side. Tosi's role is  hiring and firing non-coaching staff and, honestly, he's going to struggle at being able to bring in the best of the best for me and, originating some 950km from Messina - I do worry as to whether he's going to have that Sicilian DNA that I will likely dip into later.

Hailing at just four hundred kilometres away, right at the bottom of the boot of Italy, Domenico Roma is an experienced lower level director of football and his task is to identify players for the first team, something that he's not terrible at. My concerns are his absolute lack of tactical knowledge but an attacking style might be what I want and I'm not against using three at the back if necessary.

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Stefano Fiore is a former Italian professional footballer and current coach, born on April 17, 1975, in Cosenza, Italy. He's currently the assistant manager here and, despite his Pro Licence, I'm not overly sold on his as a member of staff - a cautious mentality with a 433 shape isn't probably the style I'll be going for. But, right now, for nostalgia sake, he's not bad. He just embodies this whole Football Italia vibe so I felt appropriate to also include a video of his goals.

Primarily an attacking midfielder, he was known for his creativity, vision, and ability to score from midfield. Fiore started his professional career with his hometown club Cosenza before moving to Parma, where he contributed to their UEFA Cup and Coppa Italia victories in the mid-1990s. Fiore's career saw him play for several top Italian clubs, including Udinese, Lazio, and Fiorentina. At Udinese, he emerged as a key player, which earned him a move to Lazio in 2001. During his time at Lazio, he won the Coppa Italia in the 2003-2004 season. Fiore also had brief stints with clubs outside Italy, including Valencia in Spain. On the international stage, Fiore earned 38 caps for the Italian national team, scoring two goals. He was part of Italy's squad for UEFA Euro 2000, where they reached the final, and also represented his country at UEFA Euro 2004. After retiring as a player, Fiore transitioned into coaching and football management. He has taken on various roles, including working with youth teams and serving as a technical director.

Stefano's roles are largely around support in terms of player liaison and reporting on training.

Mike Terranova is the current head of player development, tasked with identifying players for the future - a role that he should be strong at, given his eye for identifying talent and then working with them. He doesn't offer too much in the way of coaching expertise, despite his Pro Licence and, again, his styles and formations probably don't fit in with my longer term plans. However, he's highly adaptable and isn't going to be too bad as he's able to operate with discipline, able to motivate the players and has a positive personality, to boot. Whilst not an entirely different continent, I do wonder how the German-born and bred in him with cope with the Sicilian heat!

That leaves me, Franco D'Anzi, with an oversight of all training and set pieces. My strengths have been built around tactical and mental coaching across the attacking and defensive phases of play. The fact that both of my right hand men are more qualified than I, possess better man management skills and are more determined to succeed - on paper - than I does worry me. But I'm hoping that my coaching staff, which is already surprisingly strong for this level, will help out:

 

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As a team employed before I joined, I must say I'm impressed at the international credentials (as well as nostalgia) of Hugo Campagnaro - an Argentinian centre back nicknamed The Bull in his playing days, Swiss international keeper Diego Benaglio and once Juventus u23 coach, renowned for his goatee and sideburns - in his younger days - Cristiano LupatelliIt's odd that two of the three are ex-keepers and that Benaglio has little to no interest in now coaching keepers, but there's over 1000 games in professional football here - even with Lupatelli, a self-made number two for pretty much all of his career! I think that this experience, plus three strong personalities and room to grow is key for where I want to go with this team.

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B. Players

From the Sicilian national team to stories of the culturally rich area intertwined with financial mismanagement, Sicily is abuzz with footballing heritage. I want to create, in the long term, a team that embodies every ounce of what it is like to be Sicilian. However, in the short term, I've got to work, and coach, the group of players that has left us deep in relegation trouble!

Each shirt is clickable for a full profile of the player, created in a new version of my skin for this save.

Goalkeepers

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Don't be fooled by the stats bar - Fumagalli hasn't played that well; he's just played two games! The veteran of my team and, amazingly, the father of a midfielder who plays for us, he's a truly experienced veteran who has done amazingly well to stay fit for so long. His contract expires at the end of this season and it'll be really interesting to see how he is dealt with. Moldovan Mitu is, actually, quite a decent footballing keeper and his 14% disparity between his expected save percentage and actual save percentage is largely down to the fact our opponent's shot quality is high and we're leaky defensively. There is evidence he's been tried as a playmaking keeper this year but it hasn't quite worked out, yet, as he's failed to record a single progressive pass.

Defenders

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Ugo Dell'Orfanello and Damiano Lia appear to be the best full backs at the club but are both probably better attacking than defending. Neither of them seem to have had a license to get forward and deliver crosses and are both loose in possession. However, both are rounded and seem to have decent attributes for this level. Captain Marco Manetta, the cool named Groovj MacAnthony and Federioc Pacciardi round out a relatively slow, and weak quality area of the team. It's little wonder why we are conceding so many chances for Mitu in goal with these ahead of him.

Midfielders

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Despite Firenze being '5', he's actually my archetypical Italian ten and could sit ahead of Frisenna, who I like the look of as a line breaking deep midfielder. I'm quite impressed with his 1.26 key passes per game, 64% tackle win ratio, 4.09 progressive passes and 1.47 interceptions - and, with the right coaching and system - the Catania born lad could flourish. Fumagalli and Franco are both sitters in this system whilst Leone is a mentally strong ten. Caso is just one of a number of promising youngsters, which includes Lucenti, who are going to form part of my development plans.

Forwards

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Statistically, this group can be split into those who carry the ball and those who, well, just don't. Likewise, the groupings are the same for those who use their aerial threat and those who don't. None of them are taking many shots and their accuracy is also pretty shocking.

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Tactically, I'm not too sure of what I actually want to achieve but my plan over the next months is to begin to establish a playing style, identify those in the youth teams who I feel could add something different to what we already have and then start to build some progression maps out for them.

Forza Biancoscudati!

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2 hours ago, Jogo Bonito said:

Whilst researching and setting up my own FM24 story in Italy, I got a fair few iconic James Richardson images ready for inclusion, so hope you won't object when some of them appear in my own updates. Football Italia was iconic for us of a certain vintage where absurdly Serie A was the only live league football we got to see.

Happy to have you following!

I was pleasantly surprised with what came out of the image generator when I asked for my AI manager to be reading a Gazetta della Sport.

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Beautifully written and detailed post of the backroom staff and players. A nice addition as at least I didn't have a clue about either of them. Especially staff is often overlooked in career updates, so it adds a lot of depth. 

That AI tool that you are using seems interesting. Definitely going to check it out and see if it could produce some usable content for my own Torino career update. 

Looking forward to the first matches! 

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The new skin look very sleek and smart!

Love the attention to detail with the non-playing staff; it seems a bit alien to me that the HoYD (well in your case HoPD) is in charge of signings as opposed to the DoF, but when you factor in your summary and logic, it makes sense!

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10 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:

Happy to have you following!

I was pleasantly surprised with what came out of the image generator when I asked for my AI manager to be reading a Gazetta della Sport.

It's awesome and so is your post on the staff supporting you and the squad review. Excellent stuff and you're capturing the real essence of the club already.

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@bigmattb28, @Carambau and @Deisler26 - thank you for the kind comments. I loved Football Italia as a kid and that theme tune was something that I felt needed to be brought back to our ears in 2024!

21 hours ago, Jogo Bonito said:

Excellent stuff and you're capturing the real essence of the club already.

There's a lot to like about this club. Hopefully I can do it properly with them and list them as another one of my 'favourites!'

21 hours ago, CameronFM said:

Love the attention to detail with the non-playing staff; it seems a bit alien to me that the HoYD (well in your case HoPD) is in charge of signings as opposed to the DoF, but when you factor in your summary and logic, it makes sense!

I just like to try different things, to be honest. Ideally, I want to create Terranova an 'Academy Manager' kind of role where he'd be in charge of a lot of the youth stuff with my overview on what progressions we have to the first team. It's the closest I could really get to that model in my head but, actually, he's hopefully going to be quite good at bringing in these youngsters.

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So good to see you back!
I'm going to follow this closely as your last save really changed how I work regarding some areas of FM. Scouting, specifically.

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That setup I made for Sporting CP? I "blame" you.

Anyway - Closely following. Good luck, man!

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Season 1: Identifying the tactical needs and comparing them with the tactical wants

I really identify with a certain playing style and, over the last few FMs, have been able to make progress towards my goals. I would suggest that I do employ elements of relationist football, particularly with strong use of numbers 10s - and, now that I'm in Italy, that's virtually a given, plus fluidity, teamwork and space utilisation in my attacking shapes. That being said, I think that the functional elements of this fluidity are still not set in stone defensively as I like to ensure a particularly strong rest defence that you find in positional play. My fondness for roles such as inverted full backs, inverted wing backs and liberos in the defensive areas means that I do like to build numerical superiority in our transitions. My end goal is to go a little further than I did at Bayer Leverkusen and fully embrace all three areas of superiority:

  • Numerical
  • Qualitative
  • Positional

And then intertwining that with chaos, fluidity of movement and intelligence whilst in the attacking third. Achieving this through a limited handle on player recruitment will be harder than it could be, but that is where my challenge of being the Head Coach comes in. Identifying tactical battles we can win and getting the best out of every single player is key for me and my enjoyment of this game.

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But that goal feels some distance away at Serie C relegation candidates Messina! It is, however, a process and I want to see what things I can instill at this early age and look at how to progress this over time. Upon taking over a club, I always dig into their statistical outputs and this is no different:image.png.bcbb27ecfcc207bbdfeab10c883e0bae.png

No tactic would be complete without players and, in order to get an idea of what I want to achieve long term, what maybe can be achieved short term and then a really clear focus for the really-short term, I can start to position my best players within the confines of this tactical style. I'm going to steer a little away here from statistical outputs, given that - largely - the entire team has underperformed and it's likely that the style of my predecessor, Giacomo Modico, has and will continue to vary from my own. Therefore, I want to create a holistic look at player attributes in order to create shapes that work around and intertwine with my best players, rather than shoehorning them into styles, positions and roles.

Giulio Frisenna - Line breaking midfielder.

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I really like Giulio and think he'll be a key cog in how we transition. Naturally a deep midfielder and possessing the Dictates Tempo trait along with a good engine and work rate, I see him as a segundo volante, assisting in the transition but also making use of his physical frame. Furthermore, I think that he's the perfect person to actually create that transition and I feel that he's just about the most press resistant player within the team, judging by the below attributes:

  • Technical: First Touch (11), Dribbling (10), Passing (12), Technique (10)
  • Mental: Anticipation (13), Bravery (12), Composure (13), Decisions (13), Flair (7), Teamwork (13)
  • Physical: Balance (11), Agility (12), Strength (9)

For comparison, at this level, technical attributes, on average, vary between about 7 and 9, mental attributes between 9 and 11 and physical attributes between about 10 and 11. With space left to grow, I'm really hopeful that I can build the team around him.

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Ugo Dell'Orfanello - 1v1 Defender

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Initially, I saw him as a wing back and someone that'd be frail defensively given his lack of height - however that height issue is replicated elsewhere and I like his recovery speed, something that which can really help us from being caught on the counter. Heading is well below average for this level and I need to especially be careful with crosses coming in from the right hand side to the back post - going as far as looking at the individual matchups each game but, positionally he is above average, anticipates situations well and, as I said, has the speed to get back and recover. Compare that to his lack of passing ability, slightly blinkered vision and poor on-ball composure and I think I can make this work!

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Marco Firenze - Progressive carrier

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Another really well rounded attacking player who has the moves into channels trait combined with pretty good technique, vision and dribbling. I like his work rate and think that'll probably be the difference maker between his role and a true trequartista, who languidly would amble around the attacking third. Here, I see that Firenze can absolutely become the first line of defence with his surprisingly strong defensive attributes and a very vanilla role like the AM(s) could be a nice starting point for my tactical ideas.

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Damiano Lia - Creative defender

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Despite being one-footed, Lia is an interesting experiment for me. At 26, he's not like to progress any further so I will have to try and mould what I have here. Defensively, he's really quite sound but looks like he'll want to get forward and isn't too bad carrying the ball. For a defender, his passing, vision and composure is actually really good and his top speed isn't going to hold him back from returning to his defensive duties. Similarly to Dell'Orfanello, he's short and that does pose a problem when defending wide - therefore, I think that it makes more sense to ask him to come centrally rather than bomb forward down the flanks. I'll try and IWB role and maybe look at some traits to try and develop his game.

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Clearly - there are a series of issues that I need to work through in order to secure our league status, get us winning and - ultimately - keep my job. However, I think that this builds some clarity around my motives and gives me some strong data for comparison of are we getting better or worse? It also creates some ideas for roles and ways that I can measure our improvement of the key players.

My first objective is below:

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Baseline xGA is 1.84 per 90 from first twelve games of the season.

Offences win games but defences win championships. Ok - so we're not winning anything this season - twenty points off the top of the league with twenty five games left. However, I want to come back to this idea after my first ten games, ensuring that I've acted on the leaky defence. As I mentioned when introducing the players, goalkeeper Mitu has faced so many high quality chances as our defence has been carved apart time and time again.

Therefore, my initial focuses are on solidifying our defensive shape tactically, ensuring that our training focuses on covering as many defensive areas of the game as possible and ensuring that our match preparation - both through the training block and through my own opposition instructions are set appropriately. Then, it's all down to game management to ensure that I see this through. It may mean we become somewhat pragmatic and overly cautious, but we need to instill some confidence in the defenders within the team.

My thoughts are, initially, that a safer build up would be through a 3-2 rather than just have two in the first phase and allowing us to become a bit more open to counter attacks. 

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Slightly risky to include all of my truly defensive players on the left hand side of the defence and something that I will have to look closely at going forward, but, given the players at my disposal - and especially the pace and one-v-one quality of defender Dell'Orfanello - I think that this is the shape that could work. The positional play elements will see the left centre back shuffle over and the half back tuck in side when we are transitioning but, importantly, given a risk factor modifier - our mentality - we'll defend with a bank of six.

Defensively, I will also set up corners to include just one man on the counter. Whilst we then lose a bit of that transitional threat early on in my tenure, certain instructions like pass into space means that I still focus on that element of progression, just remove the already small chance of a successful counter from a corner.

With that, I have also set my training schedules to be heavily defensive orientation, firstly looking at disengaged defending - as I see this as a precursor to engaged defending - and then aerial defence. Given the height of my full backs and our back six, I see it sensible to push the opponents centrally but do need to be able to defend crosses if they come in.

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With the next ten games taking around three months, I also wanted to track the impact that this defensive heavy training - plus individual foci when I get round to them - will have on the defensive attributes within the team. I know that, sadly, these training sessions - aside from match tactics - don't impact directly what you see on the pitch but, if we can improve those attributes, I think that we will naturally improve what we have on the pitch as the players will be better.

I've taken an average of all players using the game's identifier of defensive attributes.

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Interestingly, for tackling, we rate above average in the league comparison but have the worst heading ability out of anyone and every other attribute sits below average at this level. Again - this is why I am the Head Coach - how can I make this better? How can I minimise the impact of this?

Forza Biancoscudati!

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LOVED Football Italia, besides from going back every summer, watching it every Sunday was religious in our household. Goodluck with Messina, great writing thus far. Looking forward to seeing how this goes.

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@AlfieLucas - it does seem to have pulled the nostalgic heart strings of many a member here! I saw this on X last night and it just makes this whole thread feel more right, to me!

 

 

23 hours ago, Slipky said:

So good to see you back!
I'm going to follow this closely as your last save really changed how I work regarding some areas of FM. Scouting, specifically.

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That setup I made for Sporting CP? I "blame" you.

Anyway - Closely following. Good luck, man!

Thanks @Slipky - always a pleasure to have your input on my threads.

That looks a really solid approach and it has made me think - quite hard actually - about how I will do this kind of thing with a far more hands-off approach to recruitment. I've got some plans and have put them into my Gantt Chart (yes, I do really have one) of objectives I want to set in place/achieve here.

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Season 1: Ten games in

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No team can survive with such a leaky and ineffective defence, so it was my first job to come in and try and sort that. I knew that, probably, this would lead to some attacking impotence but, realistically, these things will fit together and pieces that I’d identified earlier on would surely become useful bits of knowledge for the next steps.

Here is how we did:

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Full fixtures and results can be seen here.

We rode our luck somewhat against Picerno, holding on for a win and a clean sheet but then turned the tables against Foggia, conceded both of their shots on target – the latter being a 0.48xG chance when we were chasing the game. Groovj MacAnthony’s missed header allowed a 0.35xG chance find the net against Cavese. A second clean sheet of my tenure was achieved at home to high-flying Cerignola before a late rally earned us three points away at Torres, again, winning on xG. We showed a lot of grit against table topping Avellino as they peppered us with shots but, as the xG/shot data shows, these weren't necessarily great, clear cut chances as their total of 0.12 per shot is at average for them across the season. To come away with a 1-1 draw here is a great sign of meeting this objective of conceding less and becoming harder to beat. A total of 1.46xGA across the last three games, with Altamura's two shots giving them the highest xG/shot of them all shows how far this has come and, actually, the move back to a Balanced mentality was a stroke of genius: not too worried about our attacking threat at this point but this meant that we countered more efficiently and in greater numbers as the individual mentalities have been brought closer together. A reduction from 1.84xGA/90 in our first twelve games to 0.92xGA/90 in our most recent ten deems this objective quite a resounding success.

Our press in a 442 shape is a result of the hard working Firenze but I'm most enjoying detailing our transition - in a 3box3 shape. I'm using a IFB(d) - CD(d) - CD(s) - IWB(s) across the back four at the moment and, despite losing some of the nice positional play without a L(s)/HB(d) combo, feel that this has really sured us up. We're the form team in the bottom half of the table at the moment - not because we are playing swashbuckling attacking football - far from it! Our four goals against Catania came from just 0.94xG and we're still seventeenth best for our total xG this season but we are stronger defensively. Our leaky defence went from the top - the worst - of the xGA standings to seventh worst and we actually have the seventh best defence in the league with twenty-four conceded in twenty-two games, and keeper Mitu has only allowed seven goals in the last ten games in the league.

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We're far from out of trouble but our form has seen us rise out of the playout places. The third worst offence in the league may hopefully be a thing of the past as the recruitment team made a hurried approach for Franco Bonfiglio when the transfer window opened. The former Villareal player joins on a free, having spent two years in Argentina's top flight with fourteen goals to show for it. I think that a player of his ability is a real coup for us.  He's far more suited to the style of play - as opposed to the big target men I currently have - and fits in much better with the squad DNA - acceleration, anticipation, decisions, first touch and technique.

The next steps for us in the remaining sixteen games are to continue to pick up whatever points I can and, should we finish in the playout - given that we're almost certainly safe from automatic relegation - ensure that we end the season on as much of a high as we can, given the huge part that morale has to play in success at this level.

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With a short term objective completed and continued development needed on the tactical pathway, I wanted to cast my net a bit further into the future and create a second objective right now. I've always loved player development but I want to take this opportunity to try to do things slightly different:

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As I previously mentioned, I think that five key attributes for the style of play that I want to achieve are:

  • Acceleration
  • Anticipation
  • Decisions
  • First Touch
  • Technique

These are nicely grouped to have two technical, two mental and one physical attribute. With personality - and therefore Determination - now sat separately to this, each of these attributes is something that I can absolutely impact on the training ground. Also - now being in Italy and having three teams all under the same room and all of those teams playing in their own competitions, I think that I am able to create a more clear pathway to the first team.

Step 1 - U18: These kids will be the youngest and more in need of significant development. I've watched my players over my previous FM adventures and I've found that technical attributes seem to stutter in their growth, therefore, my plan is to propose a technical heavy set of schedules for the youngest players at the club based on the evidence that I have which shows physical attributes grow pretty naturally as a player ages and mental attribute growth is often linked to successful integration into the first team. Below are my first crop of guinea pigs:

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I'm looking at hugely developing these technical attributes and have built two rotating schedules that do so. I then spent a good time looking at what sits inside each training block to work out the percentage of the focus on these areas. Even with a huge focus on technical development, I found it hard to separate this from mental attributes, so will also measure those. To ensure that players don't moan, I will rotate through the three main physical additional foci - quickness, endurance and strength - spending a month on each. Players here will not have a specific P/R/D and instead focus on developing all of the attributes required for their specific role. There will be minimal retraining at this stage and, if there is, it'll likely be converting left wingers to right wingers or left backs to right backs - things which I know carry little CA weighting. I'm hoping that it develops nicely rounded, technical players.

Step 2 - U20:  At 18 or, roughly, when a player reaches 2* CA (a decent rating for the first team), they'll be moved into the U20 squad where a combination of highly focused individualised training - rotating between two P/R/D and, at least, two additional foci. I had much success with this at Halifax in the Norseman save and I'm looking to bring it through to here, too.

Step 3 - Senior: Players will be re-evaluated to identify their best/most suited roles that can be used on the pitch and will train those to ensure maximal tactical understanding, using only the additional focus to round out any deficiencies. 

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I already have four young academy players that I am excited about, with Caso already playing quite regularly and Signorini and Owusu on the fringes of the squad, with the latter having made significant progress since the above screenshot was taken. He has also quickly converted his competent AML position to accomplished, offering me versatility in three roles with little fuss in the reallocation of his current ability.

The goal is to ensure that players are getting first team minutes and, in two years time, I'd like to have five members of the first team from the academy. In achieving that, I'll know that my methods are developing players well.

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Forza Biancoscudati!

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Bonfiglio should be a huge coup for you. Looks like a player that could score some goals even at Serie A level. Hopefully his development continues and he can stay along with you for a long period. 

I think the playing level also helps you with youth development as the better individuals can make their way to the first team almost immediately after appearing. If you would be playing in Serie A, you'd probably have to wait a few years before it would be a good idea to promote them to the first-team but Serie C is a different story. 

Enjoying this story a lot! 

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20 hours ago, El Payaso said:

Bonfiglio should be a huge coup for you. Looks like a player that could score some goals even at Serie A level. Hopefully his development continues and he can stay along with you for a long period. 

Hmm. Something must change then, given that his start looks like this:

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I've just criticised the Crotone performance and he told me that he's playing some of the best football of his life! His Balanced/Media Friendly hidden attributes are clearly showing someone that is quite controversial and not particularly ambitious. But, to his defence, he's changed continent and come straight back into the a first team with little preparatory time.

20 hours ago, El Payaso said:

I think the playing level also helps you with youth development as the better individuals can make their way to the first team almost immediately after appearing. If you would be playing in Serie A, you'd probably have to wait a few years before it would be a good idea to promote them to the first-team but Serie C is a different story. 

Enjoying this story a lot! 

I agree!

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My teenagers have amassed over 1200 minutes but that does come with a note of hesitance - that they're not winning a huge amount of games and, therefore, their low average rating combined with their naturally poorer consistency rating is more likely to hold them back.

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7 hours ago, BillHoudini24 said:

Great to see you back for one last fm24 hurrah!

Your designs along with the level of detail make me more immersed into your saves than mine :applause:

No way! I love your Greek adventure! Thanks for following along.

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This seems to move along nicely, however - Passarella is a source of worry to me by the looks of his average rating. And still... He's only came off the bench twice. So I reckon that's the learning curve?


Also sent you a DM regarding something.

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30 minutes ago, Slipky said:

This seems to move along nicely, however - Passarella is a source of worry to me by the looks of his average rating. And still... He's only came off the bench twice. So I reckon that's the learning curve?


Also sent you a DM regarding something.

Needs must with Passarella, even if he does get a bit of a free pass by having a fantastic footballing surname! We've got a very limited number of players within the team capable of performing and, given a bit of an injury crisis right now, have had to dig deep!

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Season 1: The same, but different.

Season one ends here in Messina after an enjoyable but a mightily tiring tactical journey. Whilst very little has happened off the pitch, Carlo Pinsoglio - a high level number two keeper with a successful career - joined and I was somewhat underwhelmed with my youth intake. January saw me becoming somewhat disgruntled with the hands off recruitment - players such as Metafonti, Edwing Malpon - completely unknowns to me - or offers for players like Nieuwpoort, where they'd planned on giving him a wage of over €3k per week, 50% more than my next highest earner, just felt wrong, so I've gone back to the drawing board on this one, temporarily. 

However, in twenty-eight league games, I've learnt an awful lot about the group of players I have at the club and have and what our next steps are. Our results were significantly up and down - no wins in eight to three straight wins, including a demolishing of Cerignola, when, going into that game, I'd have expected to be on the other end of the 5-1 scoreline. Youngster Lucenti scoring his first and then second senior goals within minutes of making his debut was another high point in my quest for youth development here.

We're absolutely nowhere near the finished article, or, to be honest, even an article. Our play is choppy and inconsistent, I'm yet to properly settle on roles, styles, development plans and the like. But, at the end of the day, we're still in Serie C next year, just about. Playing Altamura on the last day needing just a point for survival from the Playout was a bit of a blessing. In the end, our win, combined with a victory for Potenza, saw the gap open to an amount that, given these Italian rules, just relegated the bottom three, cancelling the playout and making our twelfth place feel somewhat more comfortable than it really was. Twenty-nine points (compared to fifteen) in the second half of the season is top half form and that's certainly what I'm looking at next year.

I think that a lot of my excitement comes from my latest tactical adventure:

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Sometimes, there are just too many moving parts. Initially, I thought that I wanted to defend in two banks of four, pressing higher through two central men, then building up in a 3-box-3 formation with complete fluidity of a centre forward, here, positioning as a deep lying forward alongside a shadow striker. However, given the quality of player at my disposal, I've really struggled to replicate this idea on the pitch and, regardless of any of the pressing (or none pressing) structures I've tried, I found that we were really susceptible to being caught out of position. Therefore, a move to a 3-4-2-1 (the 5-2-2-1 in game) shape felt like a strong option and has worked nicely for me. Despite only having three senior centre backs at the club, I can build up with the same shape that I defend in, pulling the wing backs back to make a nice 5-4-1 shape, pressing through more well-thought out triggers and becoming even harder to break down. Centrally, I have created a box without having to add in any additional lateral movements, ensuring that we can progress the ball and overload central areas where possible. There is lots of work to be done with the roles and the players that fill them, but this feels like a nice opportunity to explore a tactic that seems pretty well used here but also one that I'm not too experienced with.

As always with my first season, there's no full run down of stats - both player and team - given the fact that this is neither my team nor a team that has played this way this season. All eyes, for me, are on what I want to do with this summer. The majority of this squad is for sale, if anyone wants them but I hope that our financial woes - nearly €500k in debt - don't restrict any incomings over the summer as there certainly won't be a built-up surplus of cash to use.

Forza Biancoscudati!

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Interesting that the change in shape allowed you to create the build shape and the defensive shape, the transition players will prove crucial.

These are the times when the game can become so rewarding when your working away on a philosophy and tactical ideas and you start to see the plans come to light and tweaking and tinkering until you find the perfect blend and then the game plans follow suit.

Once you get a really successful system it can lose that edge and find its no longer a huge thought process to get the better of the opponent.

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7 hours ago, SixPointer said:

Interesting that the change in shape allowed you to create the build shape and the defensive shape, the transition players will prove crucial.

These are the times when the game can become so rewarding when your working away on a philosophy and tactical ideas and you start to see the plans come to light and tweaking and tinkering until you find the perfect blend and then the game plans follow suit.

Once you get a really successful system it can lose that edge and find its no longer a huge thought process to get the better of the opponent.

I'm really excited! Just off the top of my head, I'm able to create loads of interesting shapes with this base, as seen below, and I might even be able to take a page out of Bielsa's playbook!

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A crazy though would be two IWB(d) behind two MEZ(s) with SS(a)/T(a) both sides of a F9(s). Just feels like the most fluid of shapes I can create.

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2 hours ago, Shrewnaldo said:

Ah, Italian football and financial struggles. The classic combination 

Tell me about it! Trying to work out how I can stop myself being circa €1m in debt by the end of next season:

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I guess I'll just not do any scouting, use any agents or work with my youth setup then!

We have some new sponsorship deals coming in this summer but I really need some kind of sale to offset another €312k loss next year, although I really have nobody worth real money.

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1 hour ago, _Ben_ said:

I'm really excited! Just off the top of my head, I'm able to create loads of interesting shapes with this base, as seen below, and I might even be able to take a page out of Bielsa's playbook!

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A crazy though would be two IWB(d) behind two MEZ(s) with SS(a)/T(a) both sides of a F9(s). Just feels like the most fluid of shapes I can create.

This comment here is tremendous - thank you for sharing!

The double IWB & Mez idea looks ingenious on paper, are you tempted to utilise it during pre-season at all?

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9 hours ago, CameronFM said:

This comment here is tremendous - thank you for sharing!

The double IWB & Mez idea looks ingenious on paper, are you tempted to utilise it during pre-season at all?

It might be something that gets half an hour, yet. I'm not sure I really have the quality of players to pull it off though, as witnessed with the issues around off the ball movement in the 4231.

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On 08/07/2024 at 22:43, _Ben_ said:

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Season 1: The same, but different.

Season one ends here in Messina after an enjoyable but a mightily tiring tactical journey. Whilst very little has happened off the pitch, Carlo Pinsoglio - a high level number two keeper with a successful career - joined and I was somewhat underwhelmed with my youth intake. January saw me becoming somewhat disgruntled with the hands off recruitment - players such as Metafonti, Edwing Malpon - completely unknowns to me - or offers for players like Nieuwpoort, where they'd planned on giving him a wage of over €3k per week, 50% more than my next highest earner, just felt wrong, so I've gone back to the drawing board on this one, temporarily. 

However, in twenty-eight league games, I've learnt an awful lot about the group of players I have at the club and have and what our next steps are. Our results were significantly up and down - no wins in eight to three straight wins, including a demolishing of Cerignola, when, going into that game, I'd have expected to be on the other end of the 5-1 scoreline. Youngster Lucenti scoring his first and then second senior goals within minutes of making his debut was another high point in my quest for youth development here.

We're absolutely nowhere near the finished article, or, to be honest, even an article. Our play is choppy and inconsistent, I'm yet to properly settle on roles, styles, development plans and the like. But, at the end of the day, we're still in Serie C next year, just about. Playing Altamura on the last day needing just a point for survival from the Playout was a bit of a blessing. In the end, our win, combined with a victory for Potenza, saw the gap open to an amount that, given these Italian rules, just relegated the bottom three, cancelling the playout and making our twelfth place feel somewhat more comfortable than it really was. Twenty-nine points (compared to fifteen) in the second half of the season is top half form and that's certainly what I'm looking at next year.

I think that a lot of my excitement comes from my latest tactical adventure:

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Sometimes, there are just too many moving parts. Initially, I thought that I wanted to defend in two banks of four, pressing higher through two central men, then building up in a 3-box-3 formation with complete fluidity of a centre forward, here, positioning as a deep lying forward alongside a shadow striker. However, given the quality of player at my disposal, I've really struggled to replicate this idea on the pitch and, regardless of any of the pressing (or none pressing) structures I've tried, I found that we were really susceptible to being caught out of position. Therefore, a move to a 3-4-2-1 (the 5-2-2-1 in game) shape felt like a strong option and has worked nicely for me. Despite only having three senior centre backs at the club, I can build up with the same shape that I defend in, pulling the wing backs back to make a nice 5-4-1 shape, pressing through more well-thought out triggers and becoming even harder to break down. Centrally, I have created a box without having to add in any additional lateral movements, ensuring that we can progress the ball and overload central areas where possible. There is lots of work to be done with the roles and the players that fill them, but this feels like a nice opportunity to explore a tactic that seems pretty well used here but also one that I'm not too experienced with.

As always with my first season, there's no full run down of stats - both player and team - given the fact that this is neither my team nor a team that has played this way this season. All eyes, for me, are on what I want to do with this summer. The majority of this squad is for sale, if anyone wants them but I hope that our financial woes - nearly €500k in debt - don't restrict any incomings over the summer as there certainly won't be a built-up surplus of cash to use.

Forza Biancoscudati!

Fantastic tactical post, Ben. Have you shown the formation you're playing in? I think I missed it.
Either way, I'm a huge fan of utilizing role changes for shape changes mid game. Not doing it much, but certainly a fan.

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21 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

I'm really excited! Just off the top of my head, I'm able to create loads of interesting shapes with this base, as seen below, and I might even be able to take a page out of Bielsa's playbook!

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A crazy though would be two IWB(d) behind two MEZ(s) with SS(a)/T(a) both sides of a F9(s). Just feels like the most fluid of shapes I can create.

I always try to have three systems with slight variations. Ive done that for many years, mainly taking it from https://strikerless.com/author/oziltothearsenal/. It was @Ö-zil to the Arsenal! who really got me into the tactcial side of the game many years ago. If you were to go down a true bielsa approach. I currently have a lot of pace in attack, im playing in Argentina i could well go down the route of El-Loco. Although im trying to stick with a back four for this years edition.

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I've been bouncing between this two systems.

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The 3421 is fun.  The LWB on WB(Au) is a great role because the wingback-automatic is clean slate.  It has no hard coded instructions.  You can turn it into whatever type of wingback that you want.  I also have the SS(a) and T(a) swap positions to further confuse the opposition marking.  Players are still learning it so I've stuck with the 3-3-2-2 on left for league matches.  I can stretch the pitch from touchline to touchline with the two wingbacks which pulls the opposition fullbacks out wide giving the two central forward and the attacking central midfielder a 3v2 situation when the opposition doesn't use a DM to make it 3v3.  When they try to make it 3v3, I pull the DLP(s) into an AP(s) to give opposing DM another option to worry about.

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23 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

I'm really excited! Just off the top of my head, I'm able to create loads of interesting shapes with this base, as seen below, and I might even be able to take a page out of Bielsa's playbook!

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A crazy though would be two IWB(d) behind two MEZ(s) with SS(a)/T(a) both sides of a F9(s). Just feels like the most fluid of shapes I can create.

All of my boogie teams in the Youth-Only save are using variations of this system. The only thing they all have in common is that the DMs are a combination of holder + destroyer. Very intrigued to see what you're going to do with this shape.

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11 hours ago, Slipky said:

Fantastic tactical post, Ben. Have you shown the formation you're playing in? I think I missed it.
Either way, I'm a huge fan of utilizing role changes for shape changes mid game. Not doing it much, but certainly a fan.

This is our shape with my current instructions. That leaves us looking like this:

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This is, purposely, the most vanilla I can make it. Three defensive players (three duties), four balanced players (six duties) and three attacking players (one duty) with an overall balanced mentality means that I can push everyone up by one or two moving to positive or attacking mentality. Once I'm happy with how things are sitting, I'll start to look at different roles and instructions that work for each player. With Frisenna being my line breaker, he's currently the only fancy role - the Volante.

It will develop over time - starting with our defensive structures and specific pressing patterns and then moving on to our attacking shapes and fluidity. I need to think how I can write about this in an interesting way!

2 hours ago, SixPointer said:

I always try to have three systems with slight variations. Ive done that for many years, mainly taking it from https://strikerless.com/author/oziltothearsenal/. It was @Ö-zil to the Arsenal! who really got me into the tactcial side of the game many years ago. If you were to go down a true bielsa approach. I currently have a lot of pace in attack, im playing in Argentina i could well go down the route of El-Loco. Although im trying to stick with a back four for this years edition.

I need to find three variations of this shape - all with very similar team instructions that are different enough to warrant a new slot (i.e. not just a change of an AM(s) to an SS(a)) but not diverging too far from my ideology. I agree that @Ö-zil to the Arsenal! has been a huge influence - particularly his X threads and his use of a lot of support roles, which you can see is translated in my shapes.

1 hour ago, keeper#1 said:

The 3421 is fun.  The LWB on WB(Au) is a great role because the wingback-automatic is clean slate.  It has no hard coded instructions.  You can turn it into whatever type of wingback that you want.  I also have the SS(a) and T(a) swap positions to further confuse the opposition marking.  Players are still learning it so I've stuck with the 3-3-2-2 on left for league matches.  I can stretch the pitch from touchline to touchline with the two wingbacks which pulls the opposition fullbacks out wide giving the two central forward and the attacking central midfielder a 3v2 situation when the opposition doesn't use a DM to make it 3v3.  When they try to make it 3v3, I pull the DLP(s) into an AP(s) to give opposing DM another option to worry about.

Hadn't actually ever considered WB(au) compared to WB(s). Because I'm on a balanced mentality, he'd stay as a 'support' kind of player but removes the 'gets forward whenever possible' and enables me to get him to hold position. Certainly a change that can come during a game if nothing else.

In a similar way to that - I do like the AM(s) role as they are completely blank and I can replicate some of the behaviours of both a T(s) - roaming, space finding, playmaker-esque - and a SS(a) - progressive carrying, space finding - whilst still ensuring that I keep a fluid structure. Right now, they are pretty vanilla but I'll look at what I can add to them!

4 minutes ago, BillHoudini24 said:

All of my boogie teams in the Youth-Only save are using variations of this system. The only thing they all have in common is that the DMs are a combination of holder + destroyer. Very intrigued to see what you're going to do with this shape.

Yeah - lots of Serie C sides are using it and I've found it tough to break down. I'm hoping that I can go three vs three on their defenders with this shape and create some carnage! I have used a holder and roamer - A(d) and VOL(s) - quite a lot and dabbled with a BWM(s) and VOL(s) but that left me too open.

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Interesting system. Has many same aspects that I use with Torino. Haven't mastered the 3 CBs yet but so happy that I have gone away from the safe 4-3-3 systems on this FM and tried something else. And with kinda Catenaccio approach is impossible to take things granted and go away from the comprehensive highlights as the approach can be a real hit or miss. I think this also applies quite well to all 3-something-something tactics. 

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Season 2: Balancing the squad.

With money very hard to come by, I decided to make a brave decision this summer - to split my recruitment process into two very distinct areas. Firstly, by turning off the scouting scope, meaning that I only have access to players that my scouts know (and, additionally, removing the Player Search panel from my skin) meant that, whilst I'd save some money this summer, I had less up to date date and reports to choose from and would be getting significantly less new ones. This meant that scouting data from last year become more pivotal as they are now just combined with agent offers that fill my scouting centre inbox. Secondly, I thought I'd continue to trust my staff in terms of either agreeing or disagreeing to their signings at the final stages. 

Such a squad overhaul is not something I ever really like to do, however, with significant departures within the squad and a move to a different tactical shape, requiring different numbers of players within the squad, my hand has been a little bit forced. Five of the six players have been signed by me, with those five arriving based on strong data from last year.

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My first two signings were a defensive pairing last year at Atalanta's U23 side, who play in Girone A of this division. I like that both are positionally opposite, meaning they are able to cover the two wide areas of the defence as well as offering cover as wingbacks, if necessary. Gabriele Bertostatistically, was really good last year in an Atalanta side that didn't have to do a lot. Likewise, Ceresoli's stats paint a picture of a defender who has performed really well at this level.

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It's odd that the next three signings all come from relegated sides but, being able to prize people like Giovagnoli from Asti, whose stats were pretty strong, must be considered a coup for us. With an enforced, and celebrated, sale of Dell'Orfanello, €140k back to Brazil, I needed a replacement and I think the Argentine can be it. Likewise, D'Amore's performances were, overall, better than you'd suggest for a player whose team - Cavese - went down.

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Scorza is the final relegated player - this time from Fermana - and his performances indicate that he's proven himself as solid ball winner who can use the ball. Lastly, youth player Sadotti joined on loan from Fiorentina. He's not featured at any level for them at all, which is of a concern to me, but, given that I need to completely restructure the defence, I'm not averse to this deal that my backroom staff put together for me to sign off on.

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Once again, pretty short in terms of depth here. We're basically broke, still far from my team and entering the first year of - honestly - a three of four year plan to get out of this division. Therefore, the real work starts when we start the season in a few weeks time..

Forza Biancoscudati!

 

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1 hour ago, El Payaso said:

Interesting system. Has many same aspects that I use with Torino. Haven't mastered the 3 CBs yet but so happy that I have gone away from the safe 4-3-3 systems on this FM and tried something else. And with kinda Catenaccio approach is impossible to take things granted and go away from the comprehensive highlights as the approach can be a real hit or miss. I think this also applies quite well to all 3-something-something tactics. 

I hadn't clocked just how defensive your setup is with the low block and pressing. I'm trying to play pro-active, front foot football still but with a far more solid defensive base. Interested to hear you dig in - either here or in your thread - about your WCB(d)/CD(d)/BPD(d) idea at the back, particularly when the WCB(d) isn't on the same side as the CWB(a) and, as such, covering that space.

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55 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:

I hadn't clocked just how defensive your setup is with the low block and pressing. I'm trying to play pro-active, front foot football still but with a far more solid defensive base. Interested to hear you dig in - either here or in your thread - about your WCB(d)/CD(d)/BPD(d) idea at the back, particularly when the WCB(d) isn't on the same side as the CWB(a) and, as such, covering that space.

It's more related to the players in my case as Ricardo Rodríguez is actually a former full/wing-back and also the most capable of our centre-backs in possession. I am also at times changing the left wing-back into an inverted wing-back, especially when I see the segundo volante finding space higher up the pitch. This leaves more space down the flank for Rodriguez to cover. 

The CWB that I use is on support duty and unlike last season, Raoul Bellanova has been quite solid in defense. His attacking contribution on the other hand is covered more by the defensive midfield on defend duty. 

But you do raise a good point here and I've been actually thinking about this lately. 

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