Hildor

Typed "football" on the store and FMM 23 shows up way down, after 32 other games and apps, behind soccer manager, fifa, efootball, top eleven and many other dodgy football games.

This! FMM always felt like an afterthought, always last when it came to announcements, little to no community involvement (as in being so damn hard do edit or mod some parts of the game - different on pc), never seen much advertising and yet it's always topping sales charts (on android anyway). Why? Because of a faithful legion of fans! Such a small game and yet has grown three large communities (Facebook, Discord and FMM Vibe) and now you guys at SI cut out a large part of this community from their favourite game. Unless it's a big jump and tons of improvements (which I doubt judging from the past), what will make 24 sell more then 23? It won't, on the contrary, I would bet piracy will rise, those who don't have Netflix still will want acess to the game and it's damn easy to find it.

I hadn't thought of that and it is indeed troubling, if that is the case then we would have to basically rent the game for a year 😅

We have our own poll in the discord server that started about a hour ago and the numbers are quite interesting so far, half the voters have Netflix but the vast majority consider this a negative move 🤔

There's a difference there, sure FIFA has some insane microtransactions (can it still be called micro?) but the base game isn't locked behind a monthly subscription like FMM24. You can buy the base game and not spend any more money, it's your choice to spend money or not while with a monthly sub to get a mobile game the choice is taken away from the user who just wants to play the game.

This whole thing reminds me of when clubs decided to create the European Super League and the fans revolted and actually forced the clubs to give it up, so the question here is, will SI actually listen to their die hard fans? I have doubts, the Netflix thing is probably signed and no way back. The discord server also has shown people from some countries who find the game expensive/can't afford them/kids without a income yet. Netflix might be good for these kids for example if their parents have a subscription but for everyone who usually can't afford the game for it's normal price, how did SI think they can afford a Netflix subscription? Overall where the fans taken into account or just a financial cutthroat corporate move?

No sure what to think. At this point they should just come out and tell the community something before more damage is done 😢

Judging by the people who come ask for help with pirate version on the discord server (we don't support piracy there) it's still a lot but imo moving to Netflix exclusive won't help, so easy and fast to find android version of Netflix exclusive games 😢

There is a workaround. Either load all English divisions or all of Sweden divisions. Not sure why loading either will always makes me start with 1 star reputation.

Won't the numbers go the other way? I mean so far I haven't seen any positives about it, even from people who have Netflix. Pirate sites are filled with Netflix exclusive games, how will it be different for FMM?

The thing about FMM is it wasn't 60 euros game like the full version plus the portability and faster approach. If I'm going to pay 60 I rather get the full version which I don't have time to play sadly. I won't use any other Netflix content, it's looking like for the first time since FMH I won't be buying FMM 😢

If its going to be a Netflix exclusive its a bad decision, forcing people to pay a subscription will lead to less people actually paying for it and leading to more piracy ( considering a lot already pirate the game) Still I rather wait for someone from SI to clarify this before passing judgment 😅

Oh no! So the crazy Saudi bids will be harassing our top players 😅

Does that mean Saudi might be a strong contender considering the interest has surely risen about that league?

Love it and hate it 😅 love to all the leagues available at some point but hate it if I can't customise it like in this year's edition not being able to choose the divisions we want active in a certain league. For example a lot of times I don't need to load all English divisions. A Always enjoyed that you can add leagues mid game in full version but I can understand that it's probably impossible on mobile.

I only have a switch lite so playing on TV isn't a option for me. Can't really say why the size difference, guess only one of the devs can answer.

Yeah it was but on 22 setting reputation disappeared too, gotta wonder who makes these decisions 🤔

I only own switch version but from what I can gather from screenshots they look very similar if not the same.

I can't find it either, kinda of annoying cause it still shows in manager profile, empty in this case. I would trade all of the avatar customization for that and being able to set our reputation from the start.

Eh, that would probably sell, they make manager of everything these days, why not feet? Or even a feet simulator? 😂

Just a heads up, there's someone asking money for another FMM fake in the play store, not sure how Google is letting these to through 😅 Here's the link in case you boys at SI need it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fromthebenchgames.fmfootball2016

Have to say I agree, I also play mobile and I'm on the mobile forums often, the communication there is the opposite of what we see here, devs are constantly active and looking for way to make things better. Here there's little to no interaction from SI side, some questionable features decisions like the ass man constant stop of the game or removing the option to choose our manager starting reputation. Not to mention, switch version getting an update and the patch notes don't seem to be anywhere 😑 Can hope things get better, I'm sure you guys are busy but this version of the game deserves some love too.

Regarding this question, I've played about 10 matches after the update and didn't see a single penalty.

Patch notes for the switch version are always a mystery 😅

Please let us customize our manager reputation at the start. Personally I don't care much for making an avatar (can barely see it on the switch lite) but I care a lot about being able to set my starting reputation manually, right now it seems to be automatic and if I want to start a unknown unemployed career I have to juggle with leagues to get the rep down to 1 star, for example loading all of the English pyramid, when a lot of the times I don't even want to manage there. Not to mention loading it side by side with 4 other leagues makes the processing much more slower.