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FM17? 30+ seasons. This year? <1
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It definitely does happen. My Shrewsbury team developed a rivalry with Arsenal over a period of time in which we were competing for titles.
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They already *are* developing next year's edition - that's the curse of being absolutely wedded, rightly or wrongly, to a yearly release schedule...
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The second guy, David.
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Realistically, there isn't much that SI can do with the next patch. SI are not a huge, monolithic games developer; they are, relatively speaking, a small team and part of that small team will already be working on FM21. That is the downside of a yearly release schedule. Call of Duty can get away with it because they farm development out to different teams, alternating each year (as well as having very large teams of developers). SI do not have that luxury.
By setting an artificial deadline, you are setting the expectation that the game must be released on a certain date, come hell or high water and we are seeing the results of that this year. If I am being honest, I don't think FM20 should have been released in the state it was; there were and still are numerous and obvious bugs that, under a 'normal' release schedule, would have been picked up and fixed at the cost of delaying the game release. By sticking to a yearly release schedule, major bugs picked up by the test team that can't be fixed in the timeframe prior to release, means the game has to be release no matter what and the team have to scramble to retrospectively patch the engine after release. This has worked in the past when the ME flaws have not been so fundamental or groundbreaking but in this year's version, it looks like the ME flaws are too complex to simply fix with a post-release patch. It's hugely disappointing to me, as a consumer but I understand it, if not like it, because I realise that SI are wedded to and dependent financially as company upon getting a yearly version of the game in the shops.
TLDR: There is only so much that can be done both in the time available and with the resources (i.e. people) to do it. I expect most of the development team are already hard at work on FM21 given it is due to be released later this year so I wouldn't hang your hopes on the next patch being the proverbial silver bullet.
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It seems what this ME gives with one hand, it takes with the other. Still seeing far too many occurrences of wingers/forwards smashing crosses into defender's legs and far too many goals from set pieces and general penalty area pinballery. My 2 central defenders are on 31 goals between them and I'm still in March.
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I played the updated match engine for a few hours last night and remain unimpressed. I agree with you, the crossing intelligence is awful. I lost count of the amount of times wingers and fullbacks smash a cross into a defender’s legs. I can’t help feeling this year’s version is a massive step backwards, ME-wise. Enough to make me seriously consider whether I want to keep buying and investing time into this series.
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What's even more telling is that the regen face from a version 7 years ago looks better than the monstrosities we currently have.
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Kennedy Bakircioglu
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Looks like a perfectly cromulent tactic to me.
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I used to play a game many years ago called Ultimate Soccer Manager and whilst the on-pitch action wasn't great, there was a whole load of club infrastructure/micromanagement you could indulge in, such as choosing which stands to upgrade and by how much, building Shops, Pubs, Hot-dog stands etc and being able to control the price of souvenirs/beers/hotdogs being sold and so forth. Would love to see some of that implemented into FM - for those who wish to do so, really allow you to micromanage the commercial side of things or delegate it if it's not your bag.
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The Beta has made some difference but not enough for me. Too little, too late; as far as I am concerned, this year's version is a flaming pile of poo. Sticking with FM17, not buying next year's version - without being too melodramatic, I have had enough of it for the time being. I'll wait for March and read the feedback threads in future. I sincerely feel that I have wasted my money buying this version. All the pretty little UI tweaks and development centre updates mean absolutely nothing if the ME is an awful experience. It is completely sucking all enjoyment out of the game for me. Without a decent ME experience, I may as well just be playing a pretty spreadsheet.
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Lots of people do. There is a very large feedback thread on the board here detailing people's issues (perceived or otherwise) with this year's effort as well as a swathe of Steam reviews. At the moment the solution is: wait for a patch, whenever that may be.
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It is possible but in my experience, you need to win, win quickly and keep winning.
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Ultimately, you need to make your own choice regardless of what you see/read on here. Myself, I'm still playing FM17, at least until March. Read into that what you will...
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Yup, just seen it with Neymar, albeit in FM17. His stats just dropped off a cliff to the point where I sold him to Tottenham(!) for a pittance. To be honest, I usually get rid of players at around the 32 year old mark but then again, I prefer to play young teams.
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1 minute ago, EnigMattic1 said:
Do they increase naturally over time or does sending a coach on the coaching course help increase the attributes?
I'm not entirely sure they do tbh. I have appointed a DoF in the past with ~50 CA but 200 PA but he had no appreciable increase in ability over several years.
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1 minute ago, FrazT said:
Upgrading the stadium and pitch can be requested via the interaction with the board, but will depend on the club finances and time since the last upgrade to be successful. Dont specifically know about buy back clauses, but most contract conditions can be edited.
I know you can request the board relay the pitch but that does you give the option to stipulate to upgrade it from grass to synthetic/grass mix?
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Addendum - just noticed there is an expiration date on the buy back clause - it is 2 years hence. Still, 8 years for a buy back clause to expire seems a little excessive...
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1 minute ago, LucasBR said:
I don't know if it's a bug, that's why I'll ask here. I like to play windowed and every time I quite the game and open again is fullscreen, anyone know what could be happening? Thanks.
Add it to the list. Seems just about every other thread on the front page is related to a bug or issue with FM20.
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I appreciate this is a little bit retro themed but for the time being, FM20 is on hiatus and I am back to my long running FM17 save. Anyway, a couple of things cropped up and I am hoping there is a solution for. Firstly, I am managing Shrewsbury and am in the Premier League but still in their old stadium. Obviously, most of the established Premier League teams have the fancy grass/synthetic pitches but Shrews do not. Is there a specific board request I can use to get them to 'upgrade' the pitch? Or do I need a new stadium to get built for that? Can I use the ingame editor to fudge it and change the pitch?
Secondly, I have a young defender that my DoF negotiated the deal for. He foolishly inserted a buy-back clause into the deal. This shows up in the screen that tells you which clauses can be bought out, although the 'buy out clause' is greyed out (presumably because I am not the person who can buy the clause out I guess) but I was under the impression these clauses were supposed to expire after a couple of years? The player in question has been with us for 6 years now and it is still there. Again, is this expected and can I use the ingame editor to get rid of it? I haven't seen any way to do so.
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I've been fired before, a few versions ago, under similar circumstances. I'm not sure if it is the case now but it seemed there was a chance (however small) that incoming new owners would be determined to install a new manager regardless of what you had accomplished if it was a condition of their takeover.
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Just now, Weston said:
I don't recall but I'd love to learn more.
I can't put my finger on the specifics here but I seem to remember Warnock getting an FA reprimand for telling one of his players to deliberately get sent off in order to get a match called off.
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5 hours ago, Weston said:
If Fulham intentionally had one more player sent off then wouldn't the game have automatically ended and been awarded as a 3-0 forfeit result instead? Could've helped their goal difference. Can you imagine the controversy if that happened!
Didn't Colin's Sheffield United do that once?
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How many seasons does your save last?
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Absolutely not. I find this year's version to be an abomination. The ME is, and continues to be, awful despite the patches IMO. As far as I am concerned, this year's version proves the adage that you can roll a turd in glitter but you can't make it smell any better. All the prettying up of the UI and the added bells and whistles of the Development Centre mean nothing to me if the core of the game; i.e. how your team plays in response to your tactics and decisions, look absolutely dog egg. I sincerely hope this year forces SI into an honest evaluation of where they are going with the series and perhaps makes them rethink the decisions to prioritise pointless UI 'improvements' over core functionality.
But that's my opinion - I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell me it's fine and that it's my tactics...