jimdownunder

I didn't see this message until now. Do you mean the Oceania Champions League?

Hey guys, I might know the answer to this one. In the teams listed section, instead of selecting get qualified teams for comp, have you tried selecting get cup round teams and then putting the competition name and the round?

I have finished up testing a NZ league file. Everything seems to be working fine and I will release this file to the public in the next few days. Just a small thing, but I am curious to know if there is a setting that allows the position on the championship table to be displayed when you click the continue button. At the moment it shows the final positions from the regional Northern, Central and Southern leagues, even though it's the next phase of the National League. Any suggestions how to get the championship table position of the opponent displayed here?

First of all, you said you were happy to help. Secondly I have commitments that don't allow me to just sit fiddling around with the editor for hours on end to make 1,000 changes to try to get the miracle combination. I am not a professional, and there are no courses to learn this stuff. I map out what I want to achieve, prioritizing some things over others like accuracy of fixtures, and I am prepared to learn new things. I have put a huge amount of work into the file particularly with specific details to the New Zealand league and have tried to implement the league structure as accurately as possible, of a neglected country that is not out of the box in game. I have generally followed your instructions where possible in order to make the file less complex, as clearly it is not quite the same as MLS. The advanced rules editor is not the easiest thing to play around with, as you can see in these forums. Tonnes of people are seeking advice to try to make their files as good as possible. Because of the overall lack of guidance the only way to get there is by tinkering and seeing examples from other leagues/files. It's incredibly frustrating troubleshooting and banging your ahead against a wall, especially when people in the know can give you a helping hand and probably so much more efficiently. This custom match plan that you see above is something that took me a while to read up about and involved getting the league fixtures from NZ football. It isn't copied randomly from another file and then aimlessly entered into the columns and rows. I am currently working a nation rules error where the National League has not finished in time for the season update day, even though I have created a set fixture list for the Northern and Central/Southern leagues. If you want to help me, then help me work through this error, because probably it will clean this file up to a point where people will actually have a fun and enjoyable save.

I haven't managed to get anything verified removing stages 1-3, so I am going to concentrate on getting the fixtures right and fixing any possible problems, like the Grand Final not playing because the Wellington Phoenix qualify for the final (they are prohibited from disputing the final) and are ignored by the teams rules. If I can get these changes to work in-game this thread will become a valuable tool for anyone wanting to achieve anything similar for their file. The league structure and nuances of the NZ League seem so radical that I do not imagine there are many other means of learning about all the different options to improve the overall accuracy in replication of the competitions.

The hidden stages took care of the duplicate screens for the league tables and also removed the northern league, national league double up from the team competitions screen. The fixtures still aren't straight with this method. Would I be able to override this error by creating a custom match plan in the individual group rules of each group? The competition reputation is still doubling up also. I know I can put the reputation of the new National League Championship database competition entry to 0. That will take care of that duplicate, but it is still a mystery, the other National League entry on that screen.

I am able to make Stages 1-3 Hidden Stages and get the file to verify. By the way from time to time I get an error saying only 1 team found in the Grand Final when I verify.

I also cannot for the life of me get the file to verify if I change the competition name duplication in either Stage 0 or Stages 1-3.

I sorted out the teams problem as I mentioned above. I cannot see around having stages 1-3.

I flipped the settings around for the league names to have the individual group settings in Stage 0 with the other competitions and changed Stages 1 - 3 for the stage names, but I still have that other error occurring. I took out that setting of take stage results into other stage. NZ League Fix FM 24 Final Draft.fmf

Changing the names of the competition causes another error. I had all the settings to stop these sorts of errors from occurring.

I tried testing with all your changes and then dropping changes out one by one but this new error keeps coming up. I am not just ignoring things and posting files. I am trying to troubleshoot with you. It makes sense what you are saying but I am gonna need help with this new error that was created by following your instructions.

Here is the updated file. NZ League Fix FM 24 Final Draft.fmf

Thanks for the help, but after applying all of your suggestions I am met with the following error.

I replicated the alternate version which sorts out the fixtures not being straight, but I couldn't even get the National League Championship to run. However, the database still has the duplicate National League competition reputation entry. NZ League Alternative Version.fmf NZ League Fix FM 24 Final Draft.fmf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_New_Zealand_National_League Here is the link to the league information but basically as timmarkcorcoran is saying above you have the National League that composes three regional leagues: Northern, Central, Southern (similar to Eastern and Western Conference) in MLS, that qualify 10 teams to the National League Championship phase, of which one is always the Wellington Phoenix Reserve team (even if they finish outside the top 4 of the central league). These regional stand-alone leagues are under the National League umbrella as is the format for the editor for MLS, but unlike MLS, the fixtures are in a straight order and not random, hence why I brought up that problem before. Another user brought it to my attention that there is another way to setup the league structure, however I was not able to get the continental qualification to work that way. It was qualifying teams randomly for the OFC Champions League. I will include that file (new_zealand_2.7.fmf) for you to see the differences. new_zealand_2.7.fmf

@themodelcitizen One other superficial thing that has been annoying me: Do you know how to remove the double up of league tables in the National League? Besides the Northern League, Central League, Southern League and All Groups dropdown selection you have the Northern League League Table Central League League Table Southern League League Table Someone suggested it might to be with a Hidden Stage but I couldn't find anything relevant.

My work is concerning the New Zealand league file and not the Club World Cup. As mentioned above I wanted to know if there was a way to resolve the following problems: - Northern, Central and Southern leagues don't have a set fixture order. It's completely random and in some cases you play the same team twice in a four or five game stretch. - When clicking the National League screen, the competition reputation has two National League entries. - The logos for each competition are not showing in the competitions screen even though I have all the competition logos except for the regional cups.

It would be good if some of the more experienced file developers could help the newbies, so that we could get some good files out to the community. That should be the goal so that the FM public have some novelty saves. New Zealand is a neglected league in FM, that doesn't have a lot of attention, but is interesting to a lot of people because of the hexagon challenges etc. It's quite a tricky format to replicate and there are a lot of nuances and small errors that don't get picked up, leading to the issues that I and other users posted about. I have no problem maintaining a file for the NZ league or working in collaboration with others to make the best file possible for the community, as I have a tonne of data about the league etc, but in order for that to be successful the file needs to be compatible with a decent OFC Champions League file and Club World Cup file.

Good question. It's got me stumped as have the other issues of the duplication in the competition reputation screen, and the inability to create a straight fixture list within the regional divisions in this MLS type league structure.

Maybe it was included in this version. However, I heard that it's gonna go to a 6 team version from 2024 onwards with the 2024 edition possibly being played in China. Very strange about the graphics folder because I did all the graphics for the NZ teams and league and only the teams logos and the small competition logos within a competition screen work. Interestingly the Club World Cup, Oceania Champions League and Florida Cup competition logos all work, but none for the New Zealand competitions.

Thanks for bringing that up. That is the new Terry Hobin Cup for the Stafford Choat Cup (Northland) and NRF Federation Cup winners, and the Taranaki Duff Rosebowl. Not sure why the names aren't appearing in the competitions screen.

I was actually gonna tag you in this post as I see you made a file for the US, which the National league sort of mimics. I will have a look around now that you have pointed me in the right direction. At the moment I am actually tinkering with your FM23 Club World Cup file and testing in game. It looks very comprehensive. I changed a few things including the confirmed teams and hosts for 2023 and 2025 with stadiums predicted, and made the tournament 6 team versions from 2024 onwards (with the exception of the 32 team) tournaments.

Big shout out to geofft. I managed to get the file to verify. I will do some in-game testing but for now I can release the preliminary file for others to help test. I will include the OFC Champions League with updated teams for 2024. Issues I would like to fix are: - Northern, Central and Southern leagues don't have a set fixture order. It's completely random and in some cases you play the same team twice in a four or five game stretch. - The fixtures screen of the teams in the National League comes up with National League Regional Phase instead of Northern League, Central League or Southern League. - When clicking the National League screen, the competition reputation has two National League entries. - The logos for each competition are not showing in the competitions screen even though I have all the competition logos except for the regional cups. If anyone else wants to add any feedback let me know. I think I have the lower divisions sorted out. Thanks for the help in advance. NZ League Fix FM 24.fmf OFC Champions League FM 24.fmf

Thanks, it has been a lot of work updating all the data. I will try to do what you have suggested and see if I can get it to work, before attempting to clean up the National League. Lots of little bugs like the National League appearing twice in the competition rankings screen list. Also, do you know how the competition logos appear in the competition screens? I have never been able to get the graphics to appear in the main competition tab, just the small logos work for the competitions.