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Thank you @Johnny Ace for this thread and for all that you can offer with such passion, heart and kindness on this forum! Being unusual, it was important for me to write about it. Not forgetting the other contributors, without whom this thread and the forum would not be as rich. Gennaro Gattuso arrives at Olympique de Marseille following Marcelino's premature departure. He did his first training session in 433 and will start his first league match tomorrow. I'm going to take a closer look at the thread in its entirety, to try and get you thinking about a tactical recreation of this coach at this club. I look forward to hearing from you

It's official, Marcelino Garcia Toral is no longer coach of Olympique de Marseille. A new thread will be opened shortly once the new coach has been appointed.

Hey everyone, I've opened a thread on Marcelino's tactical recreation of the new Olympique de Marseille. To date, I've tried a number of different roles without being able to come up with a scheme that's as close to reality as possible. It's true that there aren't many participants in the thread at the moment, but I hope things will change soon. I'm wondering about many of the positions, not to mention the 11 holders. More specifically, the attacking duo. I've noticed that they're positioned very close together, almost mirroring each other, on the same line. The ball carrier encourages the striker to come forward and offer a solution, but in my opinion it's the players on the flanks (ML/MR, DL/DR) who should be offering themselves, leaving space for the striker up front. The average positioning of the players below during the last Ligue 1 championship match gives an idea of the tactical scheme to be defined for those who have not visited the thread (Circle = Number of balls touched // Colour = Number of balls lost). You'll notice that the forwards are 'stuck' on the same line. The question : what roles are needed to create this combination ? Thanks for your help

Report from the third Ligue 1 championship match. It should be noted that the opposition was reduced to 10 men in the ninth minute. This has an influence on our overall positioning and our ability to sustain attacks. The fact remains, however, that we are still playing a flat 442. The forwards are side by side, remaining on the same line in the defensive and offensive phases. One of them sometimes (rarely) drops back to provide support. Very often the ML offers this solution, with his very axial positioning. Aubameyang (FWL) Vitinha (FWR) Aubameyang/Vitinha duo heatmap The midfielders on the flanks have a different profile. The ML behaves like a winger, positioning himself very high up to form a line of 4, but also like a winger/playmaker in the centre. During the last match, I noticed sequences where the ML formed a 433 with the central midfielders. The MR has a more complete role, particularly in the defensive phase, helping the DR much more than the ML helps the DL. He can sometimes be found inside the 18-metre box. In attack, he plays at a high level, more in the centre of the park, with a high capacity for percussion. Correa (ML) Sarr (MR) Correa/Sarr duo heatmap The central midfielders stay in the low attacking third, in the half-spaces and are almost never in the spaces or in the opponent's box. The MCR is slightly freer than the MCL, the latter being more defensive and more of an organiser of the game. Veretout (MCL) Rongier (MCR) Veretout/Rongier duo heatmap The full-backs are very eccentric, the DL remains a step more defensive but still takes up the flank. The DR remains the most percussive and free. Lodi (DL) Clauss (DR) Lodi/Clauss duo heatmap The central defenders provide a high line of defence, without creating a high block. Mbemba (DCL) Gigot (DCR) Mbemba/Gigot duo heatmap In the defensive phase, the block was very compact and dense, with the MLs moving inside and alternating pressure, sometimes in the middle, sometimes a little higher up, preventing the opposition from re-launching. The characteristics of the team have evolved. In addition, the average positions of the players extracted from a French site analysing exclusively the club's data. And a mini analysis at the end of the article on the Total Football Analysis website. Links available in the sources. At this stage, the most difficult thing is to define the roles/tasks coupled with the possible PIs. Even finding the roles of the attackers would be a good start. Only the DR is identifiable, as the CWB, but I could be wrong. Thanks for your support. Source :

Thank you @Johnny Ace, now all we need is you

Hello everyone, Great thread, thanks @Johnny Ace for opening it. You share interesting data, in particular player's average positioning data with various tools. It's interesting to know what sources are used. I'd like to take this opportunity to share with you the thread tactical recreation by Marcelino, the new coach of Olympique de Marseille in Ligue 1. Thank you for reading and for your contributions, we need them. You are welcome to join us.

Thank you @Delial for your contribution, well done Looking at the last Ligue 1 championship match, the tactical scheme is based on a flat 442. The goalkeeper in a libero role, playing without risk, short. The central defenders Mbemba (DCL) fairly high up and Gigot (DCR) more in cover. both off-centre. Mbemba/Gigot duo heatmap The wings were very much in demand during this match. Harit (ML), who started the match, played in a very central position, distributing the ball to his team-mates. His counterpart on the right, Sarr (MR), was very active, both offensively and defensively. On the restart, starting from the goalkeeper, he was positioned more on the inside of the game, sometimes off-centre and sometimes more axially, leaving Clauss (DD) to take the corridor. Sometimes an attacking line of 4 was formed in this position (424). A hybrid role that unsettles opponents with its mobility and freedom of movement in attacking and defensive phases, helping Clauss to recover in the middle defensive third. Harit (ML) Sarr (MR) : Don't take the top half into account, as he played on the left wing in the second half. Lodi (DG) tends to stay back to form a line of 3 with the central defenders, although he often offers himself on the left wing given the space left free by Harit (MG) playing at the heart of the midfield. He plays at the same level as Clauss (DD) with the difference that he offers himself a little less up front. Lodi (DL) Clauss (DR) The statistics show that the wings were the main areas of attack. Attack sides The central midfielders, Veretout (MCL) and Rongier (MCR), were fairly low to the ground, and the heat maps of both players show that they were positioned in the high defensive third, just behind the halfway line, supporting the attacks in the low attacking third. Only Rongier came out on the carrier when pressing the opposition's restart. Veretout/Rongier duo heatmap Up front, the duo of Aubameyang (FWL) and Ndiaye (FWR) were almost always on the same line side by side, with Ndiaye dropping back without being too low. Aubameyang/Ndiaye duo heatmap On situations during the match, the type of passes totalled 435 : 373 were short passes, 49 were long balls and 13 were crosses. Total number of attempts 15 : 6 in play, 5 counter-attacks and 4 set-pieces. The question arises as to how to achieve a transcription as close to reality as possible, given the limitations of the current game engine and the roles available on a flat 442. The layout and entertainment on offer are certainly in line with Marcelino's plans for the season. Source :

Thank you all for your interest in this thread. Not for lack of desire or forgetfulness, but rather because I'm struggling to come up with a relevant tactical plan. To tell the truth, I'm not a specialist, but deep down I'm keen to contribute what I can. After 2 matches in the Ligue 1 championship, the available sources of analysis are still too timid. However, the Whoscored website provides some interesting data. Matchday 1 - Olympique de Marseille vs. Reims Player positions Attack sides Heatmap Matchday 2 - FC Metz vs. Olympique de Marseille Player position Attack sides Heatmap Marseille SWOT The heatmap can be viewed position by position on the website. Goalkeeper Lopez (GK) Against Reims (attacking from the right) Central defenders Against Reims (attacking from the right) Mbemba (DCL) Gigot (DCR) Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Balerdi (DCL) Mbemba (DCR) Full-backs Against Reims (attacking from the right) Lodi (FBL) Clauss (FBR) Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Lodi (FBL) Clauss (FBR) Central midfielders Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Kondogbia (MCL) Rongier (MCR) Midfielders Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Soglo (ML) Sarr (MR) Forwards Against FC Metz (attacking from the left) Aubameyang (FWL) Ndiaye (FWR) Would any experts be interested in participating in this discussion thread ? Thank you. Source :

Hello, It's a recurring problem every year. Not being able to freely allocate a shirt number to a player in any position, from goalkeeper to striker. This year the goalkeepers are limited to numbers 1, 16, 40 and 50. The aim is to be able to assign numbers from 1 to 99 to all players. It is essential to give players this choice in order to create game experiences that are closer to reality. FM24 is shaping up to be the most accomplished opus of all time, so this detail should not be overlooked if we are to achieve that title. Thanks.

I have tried to load the tatica.fmf file as a theme but it is not identified as such by FM. Great @keysi you're the best ! Thank you for all your contributions @JustHowie @snowofman @keysi

Hello, Thank you for this great work and for sharing. I've seen on many BusttheNet Gaming videos a skin that looks very similar to the Tato23 skin. However, it looks different, for example the player sheet is not the same as shown in the screenshot below. The source video is here Is a different version available for download ? Thank you for your feedback.

Igor Tudor announced his departure from Olympique de Marseille on Thursday 1 June, just one season after his arrival. It was a trying season, during which Igor Tudor put forward the argument of wear and tear, after a season in which the club finished third in the league : A few weeks later, Pablo Longoria decided to entrust the future of OM to Marcelino Garcia Toral, a long-standing friend with a profile synonymous with continuity in the club's project: How does it play ? A dense block and moderate pressure In his five full seasons in the top flight at the helm of Villarreal, Valencia and Athletic Bilbao, Marcelino has always managed to slide his team into the top four defences in La Liga. Particularly faithful to his 4-4-2 formation (which he sometimes swapped for a 4-2-3-1 in the mid-2010s) like Igor Tudor and his 3-4-2-1, the Spanish coach runs his teams with the idea of a very compact block. It's an approach that implies a defensive structure that is as dense lengthways as it is widthways, freeing up areas for opponents who are condemned to skirting rather than penetrating. The main objective is to force the opposing team to play in a deliberately open corridor, in order to lock them in by making assiduous runs when they need to slide in. By closing off axial solutions, his teams take advantage of the slightest opportunity to recover. A central element of his game plan, Tudor's pressing was continuous, individual and without a parachute. In contrast, Marcelino's pressing was momentary, in zones, and with cover. It's a new approach that will take some time for the players to adapt to. Organised in a 4-1-3-2 formation to press forward, Marcelino's men are sticking to their game plan. Marcelino's men stuck to their guns when they came out, defending the axis to force their opponents to play laterally, then closing the doors. The two forwards provide direction, the three midfielders run and the No6 covers. Such is the organisation for a team that presses on the opposition's short ball exits and other low conservations, but which does not particularly struggle to force this type of sequence, given that the midfield block represents the easiest organisation (in particular for the space and transitions it offers). It is precisely for this reason that Marcelino's teams do not stand out from the crowd when it comes to statistics on pressing, despite their willingness to go high at times. Projections rather than possession At Villarreal, Valencia and Bilbao, Marcelino has always had a possession rate of less than 50% in La Liga. A statistic that demonstrates his confidence in his defensive organisation but also his belief in relatively low times of possession to convert. In the 2017-2018 season, Valencia finished fourth best in La Liga with 63 goals scored, despite an average possession of 48.6% (eleventh in the Championship). In order to make the most of the space freed up by the mid-low block or to take advantage of their opponents' disorganisation when recovering from high pressure, Marcelino's teams project very quickly. At the heart of these runs are two central elements: the availability of the 'inside' eccentric midfielder (Carlos Soler at Valencia and Iker Muniain at Bilbao, for example, were freer than Gonçalo Guedes or Oscar De Marcos at the other end), and the complementary nature of the two strikers. In the Basque Country, Iñaki Williams had to play with his back to goal, making one run after another to offer a deep-lying solution or pull back the opposition defensive line, in order to offer space to Raul Garcia, who was further back, facing the game and available between the lines. Carrying on FM Work in progress... Your participation is essential to the success of this tactical recreation Source : L'Équipe, French daily sports newspaper of Saturday 24 June 2023

Marcelino García Toral is the new coach at Olympique de Marseille. A new project for a new topic

New topic to come in the name of Marcelino García Toral.

Hello @Zachary Whyte In which section of the forum will this issue be queued for processing in the next version of FM ? (FM 2024) The idea is to have a history so that members can participate and see the state of progress. Thank you.

It's official: Igor Tudor will no longer be coach of Olympique de Marseille next season. The project will be in new hands. Discussions are open.

Marcelino García Toral is the new coach at Olympique de Marseille. @Goldy Can a moderator archive this topic and open a new one ? Thank you.

It's the end of the season. It's official : Igor Tudor will no longer be coach of Olympique de Marseille next season. Who will be his successor? A number of names have been circulating for a few days now, including Gallardo, Marcelino... I'm renaming the topic while we wait for the lucky man. We'll then be able to continue discussing Olympique de Marseille's next tactical plan.

Thank you @Fox-7- for your interest in the subject and sharing. We'll keep an eye out for updates to your post Thanks for the collective help.

I agree 1000%.

I renamed the topic, hoping for a better audience.

On loan in France but under contract at Atalanta. Isn't it up to the Serie A SI managers, whom you represent, to point out this oversight ?

Following the major update 23.3, the loan contract does not have a mandatory purchase option at the end of the 6 months. The mandatory purchase option is €10m plus 3 bonuses linked to collective (Champions League qualification) and individual objectives. It's a shame for all the players to have to wait for a new update that has real repercussions on the game experience. Lame.

It seems that nobody takes our feedback into account...