Suggy33 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Lots of mixed press about some of them. ITV been pretty terrible as expected, but even BBC with Neville (monotone) and Pearce (goal line technology kerfuffle) haven't been perfect. Simon Brotherton gotta be one of my favourites though, cracking job tonight on BBC for the Spain/Chile game. Full list of commentators/co-commentators to come (let me know who I've missed out - there's loads): BBC Simon Brotherton Danny Murphy Phil Neville Jonathan Pearce Mark Lawrenson Robbie Savage Martin Keown Guy Mowbray ITV Clive Tyldesley Andy Townsend Clark Carlisle Lee Dixon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Phil Neville Jonathan Pearce Mark Lawrenson Clark Carlisle Have been the bad ones, the rest have bee fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Phil NevilleJonathan Pearce Mark Lawrenson Clark Carlisle Have been the bad ones, the rest have bee fine. I'd agree with this to the extent that Andy Townsend has been no worse than usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Neville was monotone, but I think he has potential, what he actually said did make sense (if you ignored the tone). You only have to look how his brother or Lineker did on their first time commentating/punditing (is that a word) to see how bad they were then they first started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 yeah what Neville said was fine, it was how he was saying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Neville was monotone, but I think he has potential, what he actually said did make sense (if you ignored the tone). You only have to look how his brother or Lineker did on their first time commentating/punditing (is that a word) to see how bad they were then they first started. I agree, surely the bbc should have given him experience beforehand then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I actually enjoyed Mark Lawrenson the other night, can't remember what game it was (possibly Argentina - Bosnia), but weirdly enough he talked sense and it seemed like he'd done some background research on the players. Andy Townsend, on the other hand, just does not have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I enjoy how miserable Lawrenson is. Murphy was very good tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwoodrob Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Tony Pulis as co_commentator did very well on 5live tonight(Spain game)very enjoyable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Lawro's shtick is tiresome now, I don't know how people can find it fun to listen to, just a miserable **** all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 BBC missed a trick by not bringing Mick back for this WC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 need Robbie savage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 State of commentating has never bothered me personally. There are some ropey bits, but overall I never really get bothered about whether it's good or bad...never really ruins a match for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Oh god, Robbie Savage was dreadful for Russia/Korea last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilly_boro Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Gary Bloom is tremendous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Spiral Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Pulis is great on 5 Live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 State of commentating has never bothered me personally. There are some ropey bits, but overall I never really get bothered about whether it's good or bad...never really ruins a match for me. This. Quite enjoying the commentary so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 People do go OTT with how bad they claim commentators are, but some really are terrible. Sometimes hilariously so. Pearce with the technology was an embarrassment (funny though) and Clarlise wondering why Jackson Martinez wasn't in the Ecuador squad was excellent too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Pulis is great on 5 Live Indeed, thought he was brilliant this evening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sned Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Echo the sentiment that Murphy was very good tonight. Pleasantly surprised by the standard of his punditry I must admit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Mark Lawrenson is so bad he's good. Will be a sad day when he no longer commentates in major tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeniro Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Oh god, Robbie Savage was dreadful for Russia/Korea last night. that was Keown, who was also awful, he just had a miserable time. I don't know what the point in having these miserable co-commentators who can't even pretend to be excited to be at one of the best World Cups in a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hom3r Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Any excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentythree Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 BBC missed a trick by not bringing Mick back for this WC. Too right. He was always there to liven up a 3pm dead rubber in group G or the second round game that no-one cares about. Could actually call a game and say what was going through the minds of the players as well, until one did something mental and he would say how thick they all were. Voice of the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I miss Gray and Tyler, everyone else just isn't as good. I've thought Keown has been good, speaks well and knows what he's on about. Which has surprised me as he looks like a daft thug. ITV have been terrible. Watching youtube clips from other countries though, our commentators are way better than most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaidean Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 SBS here in Australia have been good so far. Commentators have been Martin Tyler, Peter Drury, Gary Bloom and a few others, I think. David Basheer and Craig Foster for the Australia matches. Mostly ex-Socceroos as pundits, and the analysis has been pretty good. I feel like I'm missing out though, given all the complaining I've seen about the UK commentary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animasta Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 ESPN has been decent; Roberto Martinez has been fantastic, Ian Darke is great, and all of the others have been decent enough. Except for Taylor Twellman, ughhhhh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 You can't really say Lawro has been bad he's just been Lawro (which is bad but ... you know, we all knew) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Really not a fan of Carlisle at all, he just grates on me for some reason. I don't mind Lawro either, in his defence he does make some comments about what is going on, it's just diluted by the moaning. Mowbray can stop with the preprepared puns as well, they're awful. Needs lessons from James Richardson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Danny Murphy was a bit rubbish last night I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Danny Murphy was great last night Lawro is great for the boring games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I've gone back to watching the games on RTE (Ireland). They've got Jim Beglin back co-commentating and he's always been one of my favourites. However the amount of commentators mispronouncing names and getting players mixed up is shocking. Then there's Brian Kerr who knows his stuff but struggles a bit. Even the pundits on BBC/ITV have been annoying me. I'll stick to Dunphy, Didi and co Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I like Keown because he doesn't say anything stupid but more importantly he will call out stupidity by the other commentator like he did with Pearce or the one yesterday. Danny Murphy has been the biggest surprise though, in a good way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeniro Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I think the worst thing about the likes of Dixon/Townsend/Koewn or whoever acting as a co-commentator is when they lament the "modern game" and ramble on about how much better it was in their day. I mean, any human in general talking about how the past was so much better than now isn't worth listening to but when their job is commentating at the biggest football event in the world, at one of the most exciting world cups in a long time and all they can do is go on about how people dive nowadays and how nobody ever conceded a goal from man marking it really just starts to get on my nerves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltman Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 The displays of total ignorance are staggering sometimes. Lineker constantly referring to 'America' the other night, Sofiane Feghouli repeatedly called 'Foogly', commentators describing teams they're commentating on as 'unknown quantities' and displaying no knowledge of the teams or players they're commentating on, disparaging various leagues and making patently ludicrous comparisons with English football etc etc etc. It's getting to the stage where the vast majority of it is unlistenable, there's no actual interesting or entertaining comment, and the only memorable thing about it is the sheer number of foul-ups, gaffs, mis-pronounced names etc. It's quite apparent that very few of these highly paid commentators, presenters, and pundits have actually performed any research whatsoever. Nothing has yet topped Martin O'Neill from a few years back though. I like Keown because he doesn't say anything stupid but more importantly he will call out stupidity by the other commentator like he did with Pearce or the one yesterday.Danny Murphy has been the biggest surprise though, in a good way. Yep, pretty much agree there. Keown's pretty inoffensive even if he's not saying anything particularly remarkable, and Murphy's frequently the only one who sounds like he's actually familiar with the teams and players he's talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I actually enjoyed Mark Lawrenson the other night, can't remember what game it was (possibly Argentina - Bosnia), but weirdly enough he talked sense and it seemed like he'd done some background research on the players.Andy Townsend, on the other hand, just does not have a clue. I laughed when Mark Lawrenson started talking about watching Gio dos Santos play at Real Mallorca a few seasons back. Nothing wrong with what he said but there's no way he watched Real Mallorca matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 19, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2014 I've not listened to 5 Live during games but their content around the matches has been largely superb, except for Waddle and Mills. Brad Friedel is very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 That reminds of what eldeniro tweeted before the Algeria/Belgium game that 'Belgium vs Algeria will be a discussion about how Bougherra played for Charlton and Januzaj could have played for England when he couldn't' and low and behold, 3 minutes in, a discussion about Bougherra playing for Charlton started Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigmore Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Murphy's alright, but the feeling I got from last night was if he was to get an England game, I think he could have a goalgasm at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwoodrob Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I've not listened to 5 Live during games but their content around the matches has been largely superb, except for Waddle and Mills. Brad Friedel is very good. Yep,Brad Friedel very good Brazil/Mexico game,i like 5live before the game instead of the pundits on normal TV,Mills(alternative commentary)do I not like that:D I've watched one BBC late game with the option of no commentary Japan I think,had a job to stay awake lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Arrow Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Murphy's alright, but the feeling I got from last night was if he was to get an England game, I think he could have a goalgasm at some point. No chance (of England scoring) Danny Murphy has been decent though, maybe it is just me but Phil Neville is no more dreary sounding than his brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 19, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2014 I meant Danny Mills, think I'd prefer that berk Scott to him, he knows nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyPenguin Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Did anyone hear Robbie Savage laying into Clint Dempsey for not singing the national anthem, seconds after he'd just scored for USA ? Commentator goes "But they'll forgive him that now! 1-0!!" and Savage retorts "No I'm not sure I would. Not singing the anthem, it's a disgrace for me." :rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyPenguin Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 ....and Lawrenson appears to be obsessed with tattoos !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilly_boro Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Bring back Mick McCarthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Bring back Mick McCarthy. "Blooooday hell.....you see that!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Parker Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Did anyone hear Robbie Savage laying into Clint Dempsey for not singing the national anthem, seconds after he'd just scored for USA ?Commentator goes "But they'll forgive him that now! 1-0!!" and Savage retorts "No I'm not sure I would. Not singing the anthem, it's a disgrace for me." :rolleyes: The bit that annoys me most is the stupid usage of the words "for me". Its so overused, Andy Townsend is the worst. "Nah, thats not a penalty for me" or "that was a dive for me". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I want Thierry to commentate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyPenguin Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The bit that annoys me most is the stupid usage of the words "for me". Its so overused, Andy Townsend is the worst. "Nah, thats not a penalty for me" or "that was a dive for me". Agreed!.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The bit that annoys me most is the stupid usage of the words "for me". Its so overused, Andy Townsend is the worst. "Nah, thats not a penalty for me" or "that was a dive for me". For me, Andy Townsend is one of the worst things in existence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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