[FM2016] E23 - England to Level 23

[Dan BHTFC]

Nice, you must be making kits for about 3 custom leagues at the min.. Weiry - KIT MACHINE!

He's fantastic, really making this database better by helping create the kits and logos.

[wkdsoul]

He's fantastic, really making this database better by helping create the kits and logos.

Yeah, i seen his work for his custom and OZ database, and made a few for him when he laptop was AWOL, he does great work

[Dan BHTFC]

We are looking at adding as many Level 11 to Level 23 logos as we can, some teams for have logos and some are such bad quality we can't add them

[wkdsoul]

We are looking at adding as many Level 11 to Level 23 logos as we can, some teams for have logos and some are such bad quality we can't add them

Tweet the club, i got a couple that way.

[Dan BHTFC]

Yeah tried that for the ones with Twitter, afraid most haven't got good quality ones

[wkdsoul]

Yeah tried that for the ones with Twitter, afraid most haven't got good quality ones

Weiry does good work, you;ll be fine.

I have the photoshop add-on to have them match 'mettalic' pack in SI if you need them as well if you/they need it.

[ScottCameron]

Tweet the club, i got a couple that way.

Is it possible to update a team? I want to manage New Milton Town FC which is in the Wessex League Division One (level 10) however it seems the team is a little outdated?

[ChicoPolska]

This version 3.0 is the final version for this update or not ?

[Lolo685]

Impressive thanks for this Dan

& Thanks for not doing County Cups I like many others find them bothersome

[terrorsquad]

If i had the time i would of made the kits in the fb style because these are awful

[Wells]

This is going to be fun I have just used this DB and managing now Southam in Midland Football League.. it's gonna be a big challenge to take them upto premiership..

anyone had done similar challenge in this?

[Dan BHTFC]

As well as the logos, I'm adding more media outlets for the Sussex Leagues, hoping that'll stop the European Post (or whatever it's called!) coming up all the time

[galvez_1987]

Dan, What happens with this post?

Hi Dan! The Master Regulations for the NLS says:

Reserve teams, including a team from a club or Club which is not considered by the LC to be sufficiently separate from another club or Club, will not be permitted to compete above Step 6 in the NLS. There must be a minimum of two Steps between a first and reserve team. This does not apply at Steps 6 & 7. No two teams from the same Club can play at the same Step. Reserve teams currently at Step 5 can remain unless relegated, once relegated they will not be permitted to be promoted back to Step 5.

Here is the link: http://thurlownunnleague.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/FINAL-MASTER-Regulations-for-the-NLS-season-2015.16-July-2015-1.doc

It´s possible to solve this? This option is marked in league of steps 6&7 in your brilliant DB.

Thanks!

[Dan BHTFC]

Dan, What happens with this post?

I was under the impression that no Reserve teams can play in Level 9 of the pyramid. Looks like the Eastern Counties is different though. I will change this for the next release

[FCUtdWill]

I was under the impression that no Reserve teams can play in Level 9 of the pyramid. Looks like the Eastern Counties is different though. I will change this for the next release

From what I understand, the highest level for Reserve teams is Level 10. There's only one "reserve" team at Level 9 and that's Brackley Town Saints in the Hellenic who are a development side, and they're a separate club to the main club.

[Wells]

I have encountered a problem.. while managing Southam in Midland Premier League.. teams like Shepshed and Quorn were signing high CA players like 70+ from free agents with amateur contract and those players were rejecting me, I can't even offer them an amateur contract only part time and non contract.. I was really wondering..

I have looked at the editor and looked at the teams then I saw where the problem is, in contract types section for the teams

Shepshed

Southam I was managing

As you can the see the difference, those teams who have contract types like Shepshed will have big advantage of the leagues they promoted twice and it's not only Shepshed or Quorn but many other teams are undefeated promoting even thrice from other divisions..

I was even struggling to sign 45 CA players but they were singing CA 70+ with an amateur contract lol

[Dan BHTFC]

I have encountered a problem.. while managing Southam in Midland Premier League.. teams like Shepshed and Quorn were signing high CA players like 70+ from free agents with amateur contract and those players were rejecting me, I can't even offer them an amateur contract only part time and non contract.. I was really wondering..

I have looked at the editor and looked at the teams then I saw where the problem is, in contract types section for the teams

Shepshed

Southam I was managing

As you can the see the difference, those teams who have contract types like Shepshed will have big advantage of the leagues they promoted twice and it's not only Shepshed or Quorn but many other teams are undefeated promoting even thrice from other divisions..

I was even struggling to sign 45 CA players but they were singing CA 70+ with an amateur contract lol

Thanks for letting me know about this, there are probably quite a few clubs like this so I will take a look at it tonight and fix it for the next release.

[Dan BHTFC]

Thanks for letting me know about this, there are probably quite a few clubs like this so I will take a look at it tonight and fix it for the next release.

Think I've sorted it, will holiday and see what happens

[wicksy87]

Think I've sorted it, will holiday and see what happens

you releasing an update today. if so i will wait for the release to start

a save

[jam jameson]

Hi to all the users of this great DB, it's making my FM16 the best ever... just a question: has Dan (or anybody else) tried to de-activate the lower leagues when climbing up the pyramid? has it any adverse effect on the game? I've just taken over at Wrexham in Conference, so I'd like to switch off level 9 and 10, but I'm unsure about it...any help here??? thanks a lot and thanks Dan for the great work!!!

[Dan BHTFC]

Hi to all the users of this great DB, it's making my FM16 the best ever... just a question: has Dan (or anybody else) tried to de-activate the lower leagues when climbing up the pyramid? has it any adverse effect on the game? I've just taken over at Wrexham in Conference, so I'd like to switch off level 9 and 10, but I'm unsure about it...any help here??? thanks a lot and thanks Dan for the great work!!!

What I'd say to do is save it and holiday it to see if it does anything bad

[Smokingblue]

Dan great work really appreciate being able to start from the depths of the English lower leagues with Keymer and Hassocks.

I understand that your constantly working to improve the experience for those of us who use your download my only question is would you be releasing a download for the Kits and Logos for Keymer or any other lower league in the near future.

[Dan BHTFC]

I'm working with another forum member who has created kits for Keymer & Hassocks and we have found as many logos from Level 12 to 24 as possible. When I feel confident with the database I will release it, been a busy and tiring week at work (shift work sucks) but I have a few days off to do some more small tweaks. I'm trying to make the attendances more realistic, transfers and contracts hopefully more realistic, but me doing this now will help me for the FM17 edition as I know what will need doing. This database is getting better every year, hopefully FM17 will be the best one!

[jam jameson]

I'm working with another forum member who has created kits for Keymer & Hassocks and we have found as many logos from Level 12 to 24 as possible. When I feel confident with the database I will release it, been a busy and tiring week at work (shift work sucks) but I have a few days off to do some more small tweaks. I'm trying to make the attendances more realistic, transfers and contracts hopefully more realistic, but me doing this now will help me for the FM17 edition as I know what will need doing. This database is getting better every year, hopefully FM17 will be the best one!

It already is, since it mixes depth, reliability and timing...I'm playing it since november, top class...

[Koala]

Great Mate, I spoke to you before and I still keep playing it.

I still hope Brighton go up, living in Australia for about 40 years or more and miss seeing the lads play.

At the moment I am playing as Burgess Hill, who knows maybe they will go up as well

[Dan BHTFC]

I hope so! We're not doing too bad in real life but it could be better!

[DazRTaylor]

Thanks for this database, having a lot of fun with it.

I used the Create-A-Club option for the only playable club in the Level 23 league and am enjoying it immensely.

[Fmfan00]

anyone have kits and logos for these 23 leagues?

[wkdsoul]

anyone have kits and logos for these 23 leagues?

Sortioutsi has down to about lvl 9.

EDIT - I've started hunting down actually trophy pics for the league down to lvl 9 as well. Using the actual or as close as dammit images i can.

[Dan BHTFC]

Just fired up the editor and fortunately the new patch hasn't affected the database!

[YOUNGSTEVE]

Just fired up the editor and fortunately the new patch hasn't affected the database!

I have just run your latest database a couple of months in game & clubs now seem to be appointing managers for most of the teams in the database, as SI mentioned in their notes. This includes all clubs in the mid Sussex divisions. Definitely an improvement on what went before.

[jwchriste]

Does the new update fix the ticket price issues if you start a new save? I'm currently making money by the bucket load, but I would start over for the challenge if the pricing is more realistic for the lower league sides.

[Danchinaski]

I've just tried to edit ticket prices to a realistic level but found that when I run a test, it still defaults at something ridiculous. I'm not overly comfortable with the editor so can't speculate as to what's wrong, but it doesn't appear to have been remedied.

[jwchriste]

I've just tried to edit ticket prices to a realistic level but found that when I run a test, it still defaults at something ridiculous. I'm not overly comfortable with the editor so can't speculate as to what's wrong, but it doesn't appear to have been remedied.

Thanks for checking. I wasn't entirely enthused in giving up on my current save anyway since I've gone from Level 23 to Level 17 already. At least I'll have loads of cash when I finally turn semi-pro. Premiership, here we come!

[jwchriste]

Hi Dan - first, I just wanted to say thank you for this database and for the databases from previous years. It's pretty much the only way I play FM now.

Question about the various cup prizes: I've looked in the editor and it looks like the amounts awarded after the final games are left blank, but we still get a cash award in-game. For most of the cups I've won so far (I've been from L23 - L17), I've either received £10k or £33.75k, but the Parsons Challenge Cup paid out £270k! Seems quite rich for leagues at that level. Just wondering, if you didn't specifically set the values, how does the game calculate them?

[Dan BHTFC]

Hi Dan - first, I just wanted to say thank you for this database and for the databases from previous years. It's pretty much the only way I play FM now.

Question about the various cup prizes: I've looked in the editor and it looks like the amounts awarded after the final games are left blank, but we still get a cash award in-game. For most of the cups I've won so far (I've been from L23 - L17), I've either received £10k or £33.75k, but the Parsons Challenge Cup paid out £270k! Seems quite rich for leagues at that level. Just wondering, if you didn't specifically set the values, how does the game calculate them?

I'#ve just set the prize money as £500 for all the lower league cups so this should sort it out.

[Dan BHTFC]

Average attendances have been changed so it should make it more realistic. Unfortunately the Matchday ticket price is still stuck at £16.

[Dan BHTFC]

First post updated with latest release which runs on the latest patch

[Danchinaski]

Dan, I managed to edit the L10 clubs to have a ticket price of £5 and a season pass price of £85. This was after a lot of faffinf and checking to see if the game would accept any values I inputted. Most of the time it just defaulted to the £16/£238 nonsense, but the £5 / £85 change for level 10 seemed to work, as did a change to £7 / £100 for level 9. At levels eleven and twelve I tried to et it to accept lesser values of £5 per ticket to no avail, but it was willing to accept £5 ticket and £50 season pass (due to these sides playing fewer games). It might be worth testing these values yourself for more realistic ticket prices.

[Dan BHTFC]

Dan, I managed to edit the L10 clubs to have a ticket price of £5 and a season pass price of £85. This was after a lot of faffinf and checking to see if the game would accept any values I inputted. Most of the time it just defaulted to the £16/£238 nonsense, but the £5 / £85 change for level 10 seemed to work, as did a change to £7 / £100 for level 9. At levels eleven and twelve I tried to et it to accept lesser values of £5 per ticket to no avail, but it was willing to accept £5 ticket and £50 season pass (due to these sides playing fewer games). It might be worth testing these values yourself for more realistic ticket prices.

Thanks for that, will edit that tonight. Will mean it'll be less money going into the lower level clubs which is good

[Dan BHTFC]

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[jwchriste]

Thanks for that, will edit that tonight. Will mean it'll be less money going into the lower level clubs which is good

That's great news. It looks like I will be starting a new save after all.

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Or not.

[Dan BHTFC]

Just until I get a chance to get on my laptop!

[Danchinaski]

Just realised, it was actually £6 / £100 for level 9 clubs, not £7 / £100 as earlier stated. The £5 / £85 is correct for level 10 though.

[jwchriste]

Average attendances have been changed so it should make it more realistic. Unfortunately the Matchday ticket price is still stuck at £16.

What did you change about attendances to make them more realistic? I noticed on the 3.0 version of your file that Keymer & Hassocks had Attendance = 7 and Season Ticket Holders = 0. In game, in my first season my average attendance was 95 and I had 25 season ticket holders. Did you find a different setting to tweak or are you using some other work-around?

EDIT: Well, I figured out my season ticket discrepancy. If you leave the value at 0, it defaults to 25 in game. If you change it to another value, it works as intended. Guess every team is supposed to have at least one superfan.

[alexbyb]

how in the editor to add more than 512 teams?

which file should I edit?

[Dan BHTFC]

Download link on first post updated

[nikstein]

Why did you remove Sunday leagues?

[Dan BHTFC]

That was just something I did for a bit of fun

[nikolast86]

Hi to all the users of this great DB, it's making my FM16 the best ever... just a question: has Dan (or anybody else) tried to de-activate the lower leagues when climbing up the pyramid? has it any adverse effect on the game? I've just taken over at Wrexham in Conference, so I'd like to switch off level 9 and 10, but I'm unsure about it...any help here??? thanks a lot and thanks Dan for the great work!!!

Hi Jam, not sure what you mean by "adverse effect", but in my personal experience there seems not to be any problem (have started with Keymer & Hassocks, played 7 seasons so far and each season removing the leagues that are two tiers below mine). You only see a champion from this league each year and that's all.