Watson156 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Looks really good. One thing maybe to consider would be to add some type of background behind the individual panels as some of the writing is very hard to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) On 17/12/2020 at 15:24, Watson156 said: Looks really good. One thing maybe to consider would be to add some type of background behind the individual panels as some of the writing is very hard to see. Yes, correct, I already implemented darker boxes for that, I got this one almost finished, finally got pitches with players faces and kits to show as it is a different screen/panel) it's not to replace the previous one I made, but it also shows prior to a match (team briefing panel), some information is maybe double up a bit, but I still prefer this compared to the original panel in my earlier version of the skin: (one box still needs to have content as the opposition report doesn't want to show there.....still working on it, kits don't show either, so enlarged the logo's a bit) EDIT: updated screenshot with better background inserted Edited December 19, 2020 by a31632 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3niz Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Em 16/12/2020 em 11:14, Faronizer disse: That's actually the match full time review panel from HEFFEM skin. I just added the buttons "Analytical Data" and "Player Statistics" in order to make all information presented on the orig screen accessible (like XG progression). Let me know if that's interesting to you. But I like the idea to use that as template for "in between highlights". Hey mate, do you have in between hightlights with kits already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, d3niz said: Hey mate, do you have in between hightlights with kits already? I got the kits working just like in previous versions in my "match in between highlights panel" (the code in it to point to the kit graphics is: file="match/match info overview kits") And the extra xml file needed to get it to work in combination I have attached for you to try. Not sure if it works for everyone but in mine it works great again match team logo picture.xml 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3niz Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 horas atrás, a31632 disse: I got the kits working just like in previous versions in my "match in between highlights panel" (the code in it to point to the kit graphics is: file="match/match info overview kits") And the extra xml file needed to get it to work in combination I have attached for you to try. Not sure if it works for everyone but in mine it works great again match team logo picture.xml 459 B · 0 downloads But we also need the panels to work, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, d3niz said: But we also need the panels to work, right? Yes, the code I put here needs to replace any reference to the (non working) home and away kits in the “match panels”. In some this will work, in other screens like in the manager Home Screen this code will also only show white kits unfortunately as it is hard coded in some not to accept player/kits in pitches etc. When I added the code without the xml file it would show team logo’s, with the xml they show as kits in this screen. I was happy it still worked with the “old coding” in the 2021 game as it is “hit and miss” basically. In the mid match and full time review panels the kits should show with the “regular” coding that is used almost everywhere in the panels for team kits. Edited December 19, 2020 by a31632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 17/12/2020 at 15:24, Watson156 said: Looks really good. One thing maybe to consider would be to add some type of background behind the individual panels as some of the writing is very hard to see. I edited the background, now looks a lot better I think 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson156 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 10 hours ago, a31632 said: I edited the background, now looks a lot better I think Yeah that looks great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3niz Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Does anybody found a solution to show kits on panels between highlights? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faronizer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 19/12/2020 at 02:14, d3niz said: Hey mate, do you have in between hightlights with kits already? I have this right now for "in between highlights". Are the kits in front of the club logos what you mean or do you mean kits on the small pitches? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadou004 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 il y a une heure, Faronizer a dit : I have this right now for "in between highlights". Are the kits in front of the club logos what you mean or do you mean kits on the small pitches? Is it possible to add substitutions in match events ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_957 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Faronizer said: I have this right now for "in between highlights". Are the kits in front of the club logos what you mean or do you mean kits on the small pitches? Nice work mate, Can you share this file? I would like to use it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3niz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 horas atrás, Faronizer disse: I have this right now for "in between highlights". Are the kits in front of the club logos what you mean or do you mean kits on the small pitches? That's exactly what I mean! Can you share it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faronizer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, d3niz said: That's exactly what I mean! Can you share it? It's WIP and broken currently, but I'm happy to share when it's finished. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3niz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 34 minutos atrás, Faronizer disse: It's WIP and broken currently, but I'm happy to share when it's finished. Looking forward to it <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faronizer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 hours ago, dadou004 said: Is it possible to add substitutions in match events ? I would like to know as well actually. Seems not so notable. xD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDavis95 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 30/11/2020 at 02:08, tracisloo said: Love the team talk panel with faces. Would it be possible to share the panel or how you did it please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasr10 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 28/11/2020 at 23:12, wkdsoul said: Uno que estoy preparando para el lanzamiento, debería ser una semana o dos más. baie goeie sikin, Ek hou van 'n baie, sal daar die bekendstelling van die nuwe weergawe vir FM 21? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, jasr10 said: baie goeie sikin, Ek hou van 'n baie, sal daar die bekendstelling van die nuwe weergawe vir FM 21? No, wont be releasing any more skins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I got some requests on adding the front kit in the player overview panel, (concept from FLUT) in my skin and this is the end result (with/without background added) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzie Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 29/12/2020 at 22:39, a31632 said: I got some requests on adding the front kit in the player overview panel, (concept from FLUT) in my skin and this is the end result (with/without background added) How do the generic kits look like in this view? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Wozzie said: How do the generic kits look like in this view? This concept was created by FLUT so all credits go to him for this. You have copy the kits you use for the “regular screens” in the “logo’s” folder and change some coding so the game shows these “logo’s as front kits. If you download the FLUT skin there is a PDF file included on how to make this work. Prior you had to download separate kits, now you can use the kits you already have with the changes made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 30/12/2020 at 05:39, a31632 said: I got some requests on adding the front kit in the player overview panel, (concept from FLUT) in my skin and this is the end result (with/without background added) What file did you use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, alian62 said: What file did you use Maybe I don’t completely understand your question. I used FLUT’s instructions on making logo’s show as kits, so that instead of a back kit and a logo you can have the front, back and logo’s showing. After that I used Fluts code in his player overview panel and implemented in my own code for the player overview panel. The coding needed a lot of tweaking as simply copying over code isn’t working as every skinner knows. I had a player overview with only back kit in it and a logo with player face showing. Unfortunately just copying in the code didn’t work at all, even worse, when I copied the code to the “player profile” panel after I got it to show correctly in the “player overview panel” it still needed to be recoded even though maybe at first glance the views are “similar”. So there is no way to copy over a code and plug it in, you need to manually adjust and change the code. See both player overviews and their similarities and it took me another hour of coding to get it to show similar. I hope this all makes sense...... The background in the player picture overview is an easy fix but the coding of the rest needed a lot more work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, a31632 said: Maybe I don’t completely understand your question. I used FLUT’s instructions on making logo’s show as kits, so that instead of a back kit and a logo you can have the front, back and logo’s showing. After that I used Fluts code in his player overview panel and implemented in my own code for the player overview panel. The coding needed a lot of tweaking as simply copying over code isn’t working as every skinner knows. I had a player overview with only back kit in it and a logo with player face showing. Unfortunately just copying in the code didn’t work at all, even worse, when I copied the code to the “player profile” panel after I got it to show correctly in the “player overview panel” it still needed to be recoded even though maybe at first glance the views are “similar”. So there is no way to copy over a code and plug it in, you need to manually adjust and change the code. See both player overviews and their similarities and it took me another hour of coding to get it to show similar. I hope this all makes sense...... The background in the player picture overview is an easy fix but the coding of the rest needed a lot more work. The player overview panel and implemented in my own code for the player overview panel. Ok thanking you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzie Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, a31632 said: This concept was created by FLUT so all credits go to him for this. You have copy the kits you use for the “regular screens” in the “logo’s” folder and change some coding so the game shows these “logo’s as front kits. If you download the FLUT skin there is a PDF file included on how to make this work. Prior you had to download separate kits, now you can use the kits you already have with the changes made So puting two kits (H&A) would be (drive) space consuming right? What if you could change it with couple lines of code? Edited January 1, 2021 by Wozzie 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Wozzie said: So puting two kits (H&A) would be (drive) space consuming right? What if you could change it with couple lines of code? Awesome Woz. this looks cracking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Started messing with a idea or two.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElTugaDiablo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Mainly last years Woozie Tad 20 Skin For FM21 Still need some touches... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglet13 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, ElTugaDiablo said: Mainly last years Woozie Tad 20 Skin For FM21 Still need some touches... Like alot of the touches here - particularly the side bar detail logo at the bottom - have you managed to work in any of the pre-game formation screens in what you've taken from the old Tad skin as well? I've been trying without success to bring that screen across into FM21! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wozzie Posted January 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ElTugaDiablo said: Mainly last years Woozie Tad 20 Skin For FM21 Still need some touches... Nice work FM21 edition is almost ready. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasr10 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 16 hours ago, wkdsoul said: Empecé a jugar con una idea o dos ... I really like the first option. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto94zou Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Il y a 19 heures, Wozzie a dit : Nice work FM21 edition is almost ready. oh yeeahhhh I hope it will be released soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasr10 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 13/12/2020 at 2:36, HarryBrownUnited said: Regresé a Football Manager después del descanso de 3. Así que algunas pantallas de mi FM, basadas en mi antiguo Nocturno de piel FM18: Tengo que mejorar algunas cosas todavía, especialmente en el área de partidos. good skin, will you take it out for this year?? good skin, will you take it out for this year??the logos which are very cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElTugaDiablo Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Default Purple Skin If someone is interest i can share this tomorrow! What you see is what you get, plus the match screen mods by @ michaeltmurrayuk ! All others panels are default.... No selector background and no instant result! I don´t use them! Graphics i use - Cut out Faces - Metallic Logos - FC´12 Kits - Background Megapack 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 After I finished up with my skin I decided to have a look at the changed view for "condition/match sharpness" in FM2021. I know some may have a different opinion on the subject but I personally liked the numbers/percentages showing in my team screens instead of the icons. It wasn't as simple and straightforward as I anticipated, took me some time to figure it out and getting it to show, but pretty happy about the results. In my skin it shows in "team squad", "team squad tactics", "match players bar widget" and in popup when hovering over the players' condition/health. I also read somewhere here that adding condition wasn't possible in "IBH" panels, so that was actually an easy fix, it doesn't show percentages anymore, but managed to get the icons in there to show. This shows in "match in between highlights panel" and half time/full time review panels now. See below screenshots, I put options in the menu so I can select "icon view" (as it was intended for 2021) or the "classic" "percentage" view (2020 and prior). Team squad screen, showing changes: Tactics screen: In match screen changes: Half time review changes and pop up showing percentages instead of icons: 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 horas atrás, ElTugaDiablo disse: Default Purple Skin If someone is interest i can share this tomorrow! What you see is what you get, plus the match screen mods by @ michaeltmurrayuk ! All others panels are default.... No selector background and no instant result! I don´t use them! Graphics i use - Cut out Faces - Metallic Logos - FC´12 Kits - Background Megapack I like this (font style): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrownUnited Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, a31632 said: After I finished up with my skin I decided to have a look at the changed view for "condition/match sharpness" in FM2021. I know some may have a different opinion on the subject but I personally liked the numbers/percentages showing in my team screens instead of the icons. It wasn't as simple and straightforward as I anticipated, took me some time to figure it out and getting it to show, but pretty happy about the results. In my skin it shows in "team squad", "team squad tactics", "match players bar widget" and in popup when hovering over the players' condition/health. I also read somewhere here that adding condition wasn't possible in "IBH" panels, so that was actually an easy fix, it doesn't show percentages anymore, but managed to get the icons in there to show. This shows in "match in between highlights panel" and half time/full time review panels now. See below screenshots, I put options in the menu so I can select "icon view" (as it was intended for 2021) or the "classic" "percentage" view (2020 and prior). Team squad screen, showing changes: Tactics screen: In match screen changes: Half time review changes and pop up showing percentages instead of icons: Brilliant stuff mate. But could you tell us how did you do that? I`m askin` cos don`t like new style and I would like to see old style in my skin too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, HarryBrownUnited said: Brilliant stuff mate. But could you tell us how did you do that? I`m askin` cos don`t like new style and I would like to see old style in my skin too. It has been really challenging to get it to work and more importantly to KEEP it working. Sometimes I had it showing, made sure I cached the skin and when I closed and restarted the game (with all the same coding in place) it would all "magically disappear" again, So after many, many hours I got it to work and even when reloading the skin numerous times (as I am still making other skinning changes) it keeps showing as it should. A few key things, and please understand that there is NO guarantee that what I did will make it work for everyone. The forums here and wherever I looked all filled with people who don't seem to get this to work properly. "Tangfu" skin, has the correct coding in it, but I still don't get it to show with that skin loaded, as an example. I also tried FM Nation skin (Maruemon/"Jovovich" here on the skin and it also has the code to make it work in it, one version works, the next version not......... so really no logics to this and hopefully someone from SI can shed some light on this. Everything also depends on the "other" panels in everyone's skin, as I have shown with examples above, there is no "one shoe fits all" solution. I spend a whole day getting this to work yesterday. In FM 2021 the "old coding" is no longer working as a standard, maybe that contributes to all the issues people are having. Main thing to keep in mind: the "player condition" and "player fitness" code in the new game are now "PcOI" and "PftI", replacing the old code for these two (combined) in "PRCF". The files that I edited were: "team squad.xml", "team squad tactics panel.xml" and "match players bar widget". See screenshots for the changes I made to these xml files. It's important to "untick caching" in preferences. Also very important is (which is what I read on more forums where people mentioned they had issues to getting this to work, even with the correct code in these files) to not reload the skin as you would normally do with changes and expect this to work. What you need to do is start the game with the unaltered panels. Close the game, edit all the files (or insert the files) accordingly and with all changes done, start your game again. When it shows all the new changes, you are done and you can tick "caching" again. The change with the IBH panels was, as I mentioned, relatively simple, the code for player condition ("PcOI") needs to be added into the panels for it to show. Some resizing might be needed as obviously the icons take space away from other items in the panels. To summarize: the above is what I did to make it work in my skin, there is NO guarantee that this will work for everyone. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBrownUnited Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, a31632 said: It has been really challenging to get it to work and more importantly to KEEP it working. Sometimes I had it showing, made sure I cached the skin and when I closed and restarted the game (with all the same coding in place) it would all "magically disappear" again, So after many, many hours I got it to work and even when reloading the skin numerous times (as I am still making other skinning changes) it keeps showing as it should. A few key things, and please understand that there is NO guarantee that what I did will make it work for everyone. The forums here and wherever I looked all filled with people who don't seem to get this to work properly. "Tangfu" skin, has the correct coding in it, but I still don't get it to show with that skin loaded, as an example. I also tried FM Nation skin (Maruemon/"Jovovich" here on the skin and it also has the code to make it work in it, one version works, the next version not......... so really no logics to this and hopefully someone from SI can shed some light on this. Everything also depends on the "other" panels in everyone's skin, as I have shown with examples above, there is no "one shoe fits all" solution. I spend a whole day getting this to work yesterday. In FM 2021 the "old coding" is no longer working as a standard, maybe that contributes to all the issues people are having. Main thing to keep in mind: the "player condition" and "player fitness" code in the new game are now "PcOI" and "PftI", replacing the old code for these two (combined) in "PRCF". The files that I edited were: "team squad.xml", "team squad tactics panel.xml" and "match players bar widget". See screenshots for the changes I made to these xml files. It's important to "untick caching" in preferences. Also very important is (which is what I read on more forums where people mentioned they had issues to getting this to work, even with the correct code in these files) to not reload the skin as you would normally do with changes and expect this to work. What you need to do is start the game with the unaltered panels. Close the game, edit all the files (or insert the files) accordingly and with all changes done, start your game again. When it shows all the new changes, you are done and you can tick "caching" again. The change with the IBH panels was, as I mentioned, relatively simple, the code for player condition ("PcOI") needs to be added into the panels for it to show. Some resizing might be needed as obviously the icons take space away from other items in the panels. To summarize: the above is what I did to make it work in my skin, there is NO guarantee that this will work for everyone. Really thanks for your response regardless it will work for me. Really appreciate! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasr10 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 16/12/2020 at 13:37, Faronizer said: No soy un gran admirador de demasiados colores en la pantalla. Entonces estoy tratando de lograr un aspecto minimalista y limpio. Es principalmente una combinación de FME y HEFFEM con algunos ajustes que se encuentran en el foro aquí (como el panel de puntuación de partido de @Wells). this sniff, you couldn't share it, it's a good job. thank you, I won't skin and I'd like to learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas78 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) @a31632 Sorry if you already answered this question, but what is the font of your skin? Thanks Edited January 10, 2021 by Lucas78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasr10 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 19:40, wkdsoul said: Empecé a jugar con una idea o dos ... good crack, I like the first option as I told you, you will make some update of the first version that you took out of the skin...? some friends and I are showing that it is. great job, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a31632 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Lucas78 said: @a31632 Sorry if you already answered this question, but what is the font of your skin? Thanks It's a "Gotham Pro font" (GothaProBol.otf), if you Google it, it's easy to find! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugui Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Em 16/12/2020 em 09:37, Faronizer disse: I'm not a big fan of too much colours on the screen. So I'm trying to achieve a minimalistic and clean look. It's mostly a combination of FME and HEFFEM with some tweaks found in the forum here (like the match score panel by @Wells). These are beautiful tweaks. During the match screen (I assume IBH - similar to your 1st one -, not just the full match report) and for the 2D, how can I use such a solid background? I also prefer a pitch black background and none of the fancy transparency nor empty 3D pitch that the game has, I'd love to use just a plain boring dark solid image as background as you have it. Thanks in advance, you created a lovely skin. Em 08/01/2021 em 17:13, a31632 disse: It has been really challenging to get it to work ..... (...) I've been looking for this fix everywhere, I even messed up my personal skin trying to edit this and bring back the percentages! Thanks A LOT for such an insightful walk through. Will try this later today and let you know if it stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leandroyh Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 08/01/2021 at 11:35, ElTugaDiablo said: Skin Roxo Padrão Se alguém estiver interessado, posso compartilhar isso amanhã! O que você vê é o que você obtém, além dos mods de tela de partida de @ michaeltmurrayuk ! Todos os outros painéis são padrão .... Sem fundo de seletor e sem resultado instantâneo! Eu não uso! Gráficos que eu uso - Cut out Faces - Metallic Logos - FC´12 Kits - Background Megapack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TCSSkin Posted January 12, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2021 Not planning on releasing any more updates for TCS anytime soon due to the resolution bug making it basically impossible to do anything, so i decided to have some fun and came up with a brand new panel inspired by YACS, Tad, FME and bits of Heffem. Just simply for how much stuff it borrows from other peoples skins, don't ask for a download cause its not gonna happen. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec--- Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 22 hours ago, bluestillidie00 said: Not planning on releasing any more updates for TCS anytime soon due to the resolution bug making it basically impossible to do anything, so i decided to have some fun and came up with a brand new panel inspired by YACS, Tad, FME and bits of Heffem. Just simply for how much stuff it borrows from other peoples skins, don't ask for a download cause its not gonna happen. That actually looks insane!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyburn Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, vourtsio said: For no reason and all of a sudden the match stats still are shown up even in the match highlights....Its very annoying...Anybody got a clue why this happening? I use the OPZ ELITE skin. Thank you in advance I don’t use that skin, but the scoreboard you have looks similar to mine, can you not click on the scoreboard to hide/show the side panel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianvou Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tyburn said: I don’t use that skin, but the scoreboard you have looks similar to mine, can you not click on the scoreboard to hide/show the side panel? Oh my god....stupid me!!! That was the problem....unbelievable!!! So embarrasing!!!! it seems accidentaly i clicked on it and thought it was a bug....Oh god! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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