Rob1981 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: England charged when Wembley is handed over for UEFA to host and manage the event. Righto. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I was moaning the other day about how VAR removes all the fun and controversy as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavReck Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Haguey said: @MavReck could never ban anyone, he's too nice. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I can understand the rest of the world’s anti-England sentiment but honestly it was a penalty. Twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynlcfc Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Yeah, I don't think we'll give a **** whether the 'ROW' thinks it would be tainted or not. Maybe you should stop pretending you're as unbiased as you try to make out. The anti-English sentiment seeps out of you. Quite. Let the mask slip and embrace the hate. There's enough to dislike about us without building an OTT narrative around the penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pukey said: Look, I can completely understand people saying it's a bit soft, but the replay shows incredibly clear contact. VAR is never, ever, ever going to overturn that decision. And nor should it. I personally don't think it should be a penalty but I think it could go either way by the how the game is currently reffed and would probably be given more often than not. I definitely agree it's not one for VAR, in cricket I think it would be Umpire's Call. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: The rules themselves still require some sort of subjective though Yeah but "He was already going down before contact" does not chalk off a penalty. Neither is the wording in the freekick rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Crazy_Ivan said: Yeah but "He was already going down before contact" does not chalk off a penalty. Neither is the wording in the freekick rule. Oh I agree. The fact that he is going down/not going down is entirely irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 It was one of those that if it goes for you, you say nothing, and if it goes against you, you're outraged. Alan Shearer pretty much echoed this sentiment. I really think those saying it was a clear penalty should imagine how they'd react if Denmark was awarded that penalty. Anyway, will be an interesting final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 might be a bad idea to boo the Italian anthem on Sunday as I expect that would just pump the Italian players up more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 People mistake Sterling's going down as his low centre of gravity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_R Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Travis Bickle said: It was one of those that if it goes for you, you say nothing, and if it goes against you, you're outraged. Alan Shearer pretty much echoed this sentiment. I really think those saying it was a clear penalty should imagine how they'd react if Denmark was awarded that penalty. Anyway, will be an interesting final. Probably Hand of God v2, Danish player falling gets branded as 'cheat' and the English bitter about it 30 years later. Edited July 8, 2021 by Marius_R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 My word, gone on Reddit to have a look and it's a basically a sea of Gunmans crying. RUINED THE TOURNAMENT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TM said: might be a bad idea to boo the Italian anthem on Sunday as I expect that would just pump the Italian players up more they very much seem to be scared before matches thats why they shout the anthem out so loudly to reassure themselves. I did too that when I was a kid. Edited July 8, 2021 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Marius_R said: Probably Hand of God v2, Danish player falling get branded as 'cheat' and the English bitter about it 30 years later. Urs Meier probably, tabloids would find the details of the player and get people to send them death threats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 It's wrong, and we should have been charged before now (I've never seen it happen so regularly with any other group of fans) but how can the FA stop England fans booing every opposing teams national anthem? Eventually it will end up in a crowd ban for a qualifying game at Wembley (not the final obviously) but even that won't stop them doing that. Laser pens can be sorted by searching every fan entering Wembley (unless they use kids to smuggle them in?), but its difficult to cut out booing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Oh I agree. The fact that he is going down is entirely irrelevant. He wasn’t even going down he takes another step after the kick then gets taken down by the hip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_R Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, TM said: Urs Meier probably, tabloids would find the details of the player and get people to send them death threats Ah yes, we've been there, done that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Also I find the act of taking an anti-racism stance but repeatedly booing other teams national anthem a bit hypocritical. I know some wont see the equivalence but I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza D Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Has anyone mentioned Denmark's free kick, the extra ball on the pitch or England's penalty yet? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Gazza D said: Has anyone mentioned Denmark's free kick, the extra ball on the pitch or England's penalty yet? Nah, could you please explain to us what happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Yeah, I don't think we'll give a **** whether the 'ROW' thinks it would be tainted or not. Maybe you should stop pretending you're as unbiased as you try to make out. The anti-English sentiment seeps out of you. You're making it to easy to be disliked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pukey said: My word, gone on Reddit to have a look and it's a basically a sea of Gunmans crying. RUINED THE TOURNAMENT Everyone loves Denmark and hates England. It’s not a good combination is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Travis Bickle said: Also I find the act of taking an anti-racism stance but repeatedly booing other teams national anthem a bit hypocritical. I know some wont see the equivalence but I do. Sure but then there are a number of our fans that aren't happy about that stance either, though the anthem booing seems to be more pronounced than the knee booing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Yuko said: You're making it to easy to be disliked. Oh no! How will we cope?!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yuko said: You're making it to easy to be disliked. You should know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yuko said: You're making it to easy to be disliked. Sure Sterling will be crying into the trophy that people dislike him for being fouled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_R Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Smallen said: Everyone loves Denmark and hates England. It’s not a good combination is it I think this really, Denmark were the underdog, and gained even more sympathy after the Eriksen incident during the Euros, plus they played some nice football, so it's understandable why a lot of people were upset at England winning after a soft penalty. Had it been vs Germany, Spain or any other big nation, it'd have been shrugged under the rug and called "karma", "revenge", "redemption" or something along those lines. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Travis Bickle said: really think those saying it was a clear penalty should imagine how they'd react if Denmark was awarded that penalty. They would have needed to get the ball into our box first 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Sure but then there are a number of our fans that aren't happy about that stance either, though the anthem booing seems to be more pronounced than the knee booing. If fans chant something racist, and it's audible, then it doesn't matter how many do it, the team gets punished/criticised. I find the booing of national anthems fundamentally disrespectful and could easily be classed as xenophobic. Same thing with that "German Bombers" song, which to be fair, the FA explicitly told fans not to chant. Still, it's extremely disrespectful and I think England should be punished for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Revenge for Kim Milton Nielsen innit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Carambau said: You should know They've managed to get crazy Ivan leaning towards England. That takes some doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Travis Bickle said: If fans chant something racist, and it's audible, then it doesn't matter how many do it, the team gets punished/criticised. I find the booing of national anthems fundamentally disrespectful and could easily be classed as xenophobic. Same thing with that "German Bombers" song, which to be fair, the FA explicitly told fans not to chant. Still, it's extremely disrespectful and I think England should be punished for it. To be clear, I don't disagree that the anthem booing is appalling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: They've managed to get crazy Ivan leaning towards England. That takes some doing I’m pretty sure @Carambau isn’t normally our biggest fan either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 8, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 8, 2021 Don't really get people moaning about decisions that could have gone either way. If the team on the wrong side of it can't score from open play to overturn decisions (or even from open play at all), then that's their own fault. There was only one goal last night that wasn't the result of a decision/foul/dead ball, and that was a Kjaer own goal. England won, and take those decisions out of the game and they still won. Just looking forward to Sunday now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: They've managed to get crazy Ivan leaning towards England. That takes some doing Rugby soon my man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rob1981 said: Revenge for Kim Milton Nielsen innit sending off somebody who kicked out? lets not forget what people did to Beckham when he came back from France as well and for a decent amount of that season in the PL Edited July 8, 2021 by TM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Travis Bickle said: If fans chant something racist, and it's audible, then it doesn't matter how many do it, the team gets punished/criticised. I find the booing of national anthems fundamentally disrespectful and could easily be classed as xenophobic. Same thing with that "German Bombers" song, which to be fair, the FA explicitly told fans not to chant. Still, it's extremely disrespectful and I think England should be punished for it. Were the turkish "fans" punished for booing and whistling literally the whole game through, beginning with the anthem and every time the opponent had the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Crazy_Ivan said: Rugby soon my man Both sides going into that well undercooked. Could be very interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Travis Bickle said: It was one of those that if it goes for you, you say nothing, and if it goes against you, you're outraged. Alan Shearer pretty much echoed this sentiment. I really think those saying it was a clear penalty should imagine how they'd react if Denmark was awarded that penalty. Anyway, will be an interesting final. I definitely don't think it could be seen as a "clear" penalty. It's just nowhere being an obviously terrible decision like some are making out. And once it's given, I think it's "clear" that VAR won't overrule it. Not the VAR at this tournament at least. The decision itself could have gone either way. I'm also pretty certain that if it had gone the other way, Gunman and Yuko would be in here telling us why it was a penalty and how the rest of the world hates England because we are bad losers. Edited July 8, 2021 by Mr Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, TM said: sending off somebody who kicked out? Come on, we all know that was ridiculously soft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Mr Adam said: I definitely don't think it could be seen as a "clear" penalty. It's just nowhere being an obviously terrible decision like some are making out. And once it's given, I think it's "clear" that VAR won't overrule it. Not the VAR at this tournament at least. The decision itself could have gone either way. I'm also pretty certain that if it had gone the other way, Gunman and Yuko would be in here telling us why it was a penalty and how the rest of the world hates England because we are bad losers. Said as much last night about Gunman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Pretty obvious what we'll face in terms of referee decisions in the final, seeing how the referee pushed england yesterday. A shame, really. Hopefully we'll win vs 12 opponents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Pray for @MavReck, @Butts will be pissed and @Snedhead asleep with indifference so poor old Mav will have to shoulder the load. OTFs own Mule-Mod I’ll be moderating the pub come midday on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, DMaster2 said: Pretty obvious what we'll face in terms of referee decisions in the final, seeing how the referee pushed england yesterday. A shame, really. Hopefully we'll win vs 12 opponents. that's it get your excuses in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minuto fa, Mr Adam ha scritto: that's it get your excuses in now. Why, are you denying this by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, DMaster2 said: Why, are you denying this by any chance? Am I denying that the refs all secretly want England to win? Yes. The refs are part of the rest of the world that hates England remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Did Hungary get any punishment for their fans blatant homophobic and xenophobic chants and signs? But England get hit for a single laser pen....OK it was at a crucial moment...but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DMaster2 said: Pretty obvious what we'll face in terms of referee decisions in the final, seeing how the referee pushed england yesterday. A shame, really. Hopefully we'll win vs 12 opponents. I can see why you’d think he would favour us to try and make up for yesterday’s trying to get Denmark through. I mean the free kick he gave them, not disallowing said free kick for an infringement in the wall and then denying Kane a clear pen was pretty bad tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, DMaster2 said: Why, are you denying this by any chance? Is he denying a conspiracy that you have made up in your head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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