keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) I decided to change the font for FM23 in my skin and I'm using SourceSansPro. It all worked/works well until last night when some error message appeared every time I open the News Feed screen in the game. When I open the capitals.xml, there's nothing wrong in my eyes and it's absolutely the same as in the default file except the name of the font. When I close this warnings-and-errors popup window, it all works well and font(s) displays as normal. But I would like to know what can be wrong. When I remove the edited fonts folder and I revert it back, it works without it. Maybe some of you will have better eyes and will spot the issue. Thanks Edited November 1, 2022 by keysi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzR Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 In Notepad++ try enabling : View / Show Symbol / Show All Characters. Maybe you have a strange character on that line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, keysi said: I decided to change the font for FM23 in my skin and I'm using SourceSansPro. It all worked/works well until last night when some error message appeared every time I open the News Feed screen in the game. When I open the capitals.xml, there's nothing wrong in my eyes and it's absolutely the same as in the default file except the name of the font. When I close this warnings-and-errors popup window, it all works well and font(s) displays as normal. But I would like to know what can be wrong. When I remove the edited fonts folder and I revert it back, it works without it. Maybe some of you will have better eyes and will spot the issue. Thanks This might be a stupid question, but it is there definitely a SemiBold version of the font? Looking at the original capitals.fontxml I can see it uses the regular version of GT America Standard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, GIMN said: This might be a stupid question, but it is there definitely a SemiBold version of the font? Looking at the original capitals.fontxml I can see it uses the regular version of GT America Standard Tried to change all the fonts files including "SourceSansPro-SemiBold" to "SourceSansPro-Regular" and the error message is now this. It tells me the same even if I revert just that capitals.xml file to the default. I deleted all the fonts folder and add there the fonts from FM22 with a different font files. And it happens too. I will probably have to use a different font. 4 hours ago, BuzzR said: In Notepad++ try enabling : View / Show Symbol / Show All Characters. Maybe you have a strange character on that line. Thanks for the tip, I don't see anything wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCSSkin Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 can you zip your fonts folder and upload them (send to me if you don't wanna post publicly) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzR Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Also.. there is a difference between your notepad++ capitals.fontxml file and the one from the error message. Is the game opening a different file ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, bluestillidie00 said: can you zip your fonts folder and upload them (send to me if you don't wanna post publicly) Thank you fonts.zip 34 minutes ago, BuzzR said: Also.. there is a difference between your notepad++ capitals.fontxml file and the one from the error message. Is the game opening a different file ? I currently have no idea, especially as I didn't have an issue with this kind of screen before, especially with some font. I didn't edit something if I remember it right. But it's logical the game reads something different here probably as it works properly when I use the default fonts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyburn Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 This might seem silly but, with other modding I do, sometimes copying and pasting into code doesn’t get read properly. I have to manually type the code I want. So, on the file in question I would personally try extracting the default file again and then manually typing in the name of the font you want. Probably way off but thought I would mention it. I have never encountered this issue with skinning, but you never know … 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Tyburn said: This might seem silly but, with other modding I do, sometimes copying and pasting into code doesn’t get read properly. I have to manually type the code I want. So, on the file in question I would personally try extracting the default file again and then manually typing in the name of the font you want. Probably way off but thought I would mention it. I have never encountered this issue with skinning, but you never know … Yeah, that's exactly what I did, extracted the default fonts and rewrite, but maybe I will have to make it again and try it again as it's the last thing before I can say my FM23 skin is finished within main parts. I really didn't expect something like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I spent a good 10-20 mins looking at this, and ive no bloody idea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, wkdsoul said: I spent a good 10-20 mins looking at this, and ive no bloody idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 I just rewrite every single default font file with a different type of Google font (Cabin) and it doesn't happen right now. Not sure if I'm brave enough to try it again with the SourceSansPro... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyburn Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Ha. I have Cabin as a font choice too. Quite like it. Currently using one called Liberation. Very similar to Cabin but a bit sharper and punchier (if that makes sense). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tyburn said: Ha. I have Cabin as a font choice too. Quite like it. Currently using one called Liberation. Very similar to Cabin but a bit sharper and punchier (if that makes sense). That's similar to Robot what I see. I will try to rewrite everything with the SourceSansPro to see what was wrong but you were probably right that something was wrong between the chair and the table in combination with the default fonts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Are you replacing GT America Standard completely? If so, does it work if you rename SourceSansPro to GT America Standard and put it in the fonts folder (how I've lazily changed fonts in the past) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, GIMN said: Are you replacing GT America Standard completely? If so, does it work if you rename SourceSansPro to GT America Standard and put it in the fonts folder (how I've lazily changed fonts in the past) Yes, I moved the complete default 'fonts' folder to my skin, opened all the files in the notepad and replaced every GT America Standard with SourceSansPro (or with Roboto in the past) and I only rewrite Regular and Bold where it was needed. It takes some time (10 minutes?) to rewrite and save but it's better than to change the font name in every single file/panel I would say. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FmTuga Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I use the same font family SourceSansPro but i dont change all the xml font files, i rename them to the FM default family of GT America Never had crash 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, keysi said: Yes, I moved the complete default 'fonts' folder to my skin, opened all the files in the notepad and replaced every GT America Standard with SourceSansPro (or with Roboto in the past) and I only rewrite Regular and Bold where it was needed. It takes some time (10 minutes?) to rewrite and save but it's better than to change the font name in every single file/panel I would say. Ah apologies, I wasn't clear. I don't mean changing GT America Standard to SourceSansPro in the xmls. I mean renaming the font SourceSansPro to GT America Standard. For example: That font is not GT America Standard. It's an entirely different font that's just been renamed - that way I don't have to go through all the fontxml files and change the font over. It's very lazy - and wouldn't be something I'd do if I was releasing it with a different font (a bit of a kick in the teeth to the font creator) - but has served me fine for doing stuff myself. Edited November 1, 2022 by GIMN 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 hours ago, GIMN said: Ah apologies, I wasn't clear. I don't mean changing GT America Standard to SourceSansPro in the xmls. I mean renaming the font SourceSansPro to GT America Standard. For example: That font is not GT America Standard. It's an entirely different font that's just been renamed - that way I don't have to go through all the fontxml files and change the font over. It's very lazy - and wouldn't be something I'd do if I was releasing it with a different font (a bit of a kick in the teeth to the font creator) - but has served me fine for doing stuff myself. I never think about making it in this way, it's surely a lot easier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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