Darius1998 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Preview The Netherlands take on the former New Netherlands United States in our first round of 16 encounter at the Khalifa International Stadium in Al-Rayyan. Netherlands topped their group with 7 points out of 9 without ever looking particularly convincing while the US also went unbeaten, picking up draws against Wales and England before securing qualification with a 1-0 win over Iran. Cody Gakpo is the leading goalscorer for the Dutch having bagged 3 so far, which also puts him joint top for the Golden Boot race while Timothy Weah and 'the LeBron James of soccer' Christian Pulisic have netted 1 each for the Americans. Pulisic is fit enough to play despite picking up a pelvic injury while scoring the winner against Iran. The thread is up much earlier than usual to save me the trouble of frantically searching for team lineups 5 minutes before kickoffs. Obviously, that means that there are no lineups available at the moment so here are a combination of useful and useless stats for you to look at in the meantime. Netherlands The Dutch have been knocked out at the round of 16 stage four times (1934, 1938, 1990 and 2006). They can make the quarter-finals in three successive World Cup appearances for the first time. Louis Van Gaal (W7, D3) can become the third coach to remain unbeaten in each of his first 11 World Cup matches (shootouts classed as draw), after Luiz Felipe Scolari (12 for Brazil and Portugal, 2002-2006) and Mario Zagallo (11 for Brazil, 1970-1974). USA The US have also been knocked out at the round of 16 stage on four occasions (1934, 1994, 2010 and 2014). They have progressed past this stage on two occasions - semi-finalists in 1930 (where there was no round of 16) and en route to a quarter-final exit in 2002. They have now reached this round in three successive World Cup appearances for the first time, following on from 2010 and 2014. Head to head The two teams have never faced off in a competitive match. In the five friendlies held between them, the Netherlands have won 4 while the US have won 1, which also happens to be the most recent - a 4-3 win in Amsterdam in 2015. Most recent group games: Spoiler 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I've got a real feeling about USA for this one. Put a small bet on them as well as I just really think they'll get through this, really haven't rated Netherlands at all and while USA haven't been amazing going forward I still think they'll have enough for a narrow win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I think this one is going the distance. Score draw and then either an extra time win or a penalty shootout. Hopefully a right cracker to get us started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 No Sargent. Disappointing after his performance against Iran. Seems Haji Wright played himself out of the lineup, with Ferreira getting his first appearance of the tournament. Zimmerman back in for Carter-Vickers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Looks like we'll play like this: Noppert; Dumfries, Timber, Van Dijk, Aké, Blind; De Roon, De Jong, Klaassen; Gakpo, Depay. So: no changes. Trying the same thing again in the hope that the players execute it properly this time. I guess if LvG trusts them, so should I, but I have my doubts, mainly about Blind (even as an Ajax fan, I fear he is well on his way to being over it.) and Depay (has done nothing so far. Very much off form). In the past, I would have not been worried about playing the US, but they are doing great so it would not surprise me at all if we don't make it today. Unless the team finally turn up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) Think USA need to score in the first half as they've looked much stronger early on in all three games. Lineups are out: For music there is this song which according to WSC is popular with the Dutch, it's also popular with pro cycling teams: Seemingly dedicated to LVG "possession focused" football: To the left To the right Once again To the left To the right Edited December 3, 2022 by The_jagster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Do cards reset for the next round? If someone like Adams pick up a yellow, does he miss the quarters or is it reset? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 US lack a cutting edge but the Dutch are being overrated and nobody in the last 16 should be worried about them. Could go either way still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Weezer said: US lack a cutting edge but the Dutch are being overrated and nobody in the last 16 should be worried about them. Could go either way still. Who's rating this Dutch side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, The_jagster said: Who's rating this Dutch side? They won the WC in my FM save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 The usual pundits and media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Haha, great bants from BBC. Van Gaal: “I’ve couched Ajax, number one in Holland, I’ve coached Barcelona, number one in Spain, I’ve coached Bayern Munchen, number one in Germany… and Manchester United.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, ArsenalFan7 said: Do cards reset for the next round? If someone like Adams pick up a yellow, does he miss the quarters or is it reset? I saw earlier players on a yellow will miss the next round if booked. Which is just ridiculous, I absolutely hate that rule. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Interesting to see the more human side of van Gaal. I don't rate this Dutch side very much either, but think this will be LvG's last hurrah. Another goal for Gakpo, a solid win over the USA, then dumped out by Argentina at the Quarters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, Pukey said: I saw earlier players on a yellow will miss the next round if booked. Which is just ridiculous, I absolutely hate that rule. I don't see the problem with this, yellows aren't meant to be a free foul you can deploy once per game, there should be a punishment for accumulating multiple yellows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Generally really like Klinsmann. He's not that good of a pundit but just comes across as a really likeable bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I am a little surprised that they do not get reset after the groups finish though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) Yeah cards aren’t wiped until after the quarters nowadays. Used to get wiped earlier but then you had players missing the final because of an accumulation of yellows in the knockout games. Now you can only miss the final if you get a straight red in the semi Edited December 3, 2022 by Rob1981 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, The_jagster said: I don't see the problem with this, yellows aren't meant to be a free foul you can deploy once per game, there should be a punishment for accumulating multiple yellows. It's a difficult one and players shouldn't be able to get yellows willy nilly for sure, but get booked in your first group game for something of nothing (maybe even a card happy ref) and you're walking a tightrope for several games after is insane to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 This feels like a 0-0 and penalty shoot out so I fully expect someone to win 5-4 now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 90s British one-hit wonder alert! Who've they lined up for the next game? White Town? Babylon Zoo? P.S. Yes, I know Republica had TWO hits, but you get the idea... Edited December 3, 2022 by CFuller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Should be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Think this is the hardest KO game to call. Got a feeling the US will advance though. Could you all the way to penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Ooooof Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 What a chance for Pulisic! Got to score but good save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwars Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, darren1983 said: This feels like a 0-0 and penalty shoot out so I fully expect someone to win 5-4 now! ... 5-4 on penalties probably 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 Well onside because of Blind being a tortoise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CFuller said: 90s British one-hit wonder alert! Who've they lined up for the next game? White Town? Babylon Zoo? I could hear that on 5Live (I prefer the raio build up to TV coverage). Also I assume the one hit you are talking about is their highest charting song 'Drop Dead Gorgeous' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Sort it out Holland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Assumed he was off there but not. Should be 1-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Gotta score there. Big moment early in this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Got to score, sums up him as a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Massive chance wasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, Darius1998 said: Well onside because of Blind being a tortoise. Think he thought he was off so didn't really go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, The_jagster said: I could hear that on 5Live (I prefer the raio build up to TV coverage). Also I assume the one hit you are talking about is their highest charting song 'Drop Dead Gorgeous' Yeah, just realised they're technically a TWO-hit wonder. Still, you get the idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, craigcwwe said: Think he thought he was off so didn't really go for it. You could see him looking at the linesman thinking "please tell me I'm off" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 There it is. EZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Good goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Memphis 1 Elvis 0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 That's a fantastic goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 Ruthless stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Lovely bit of football that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Nice goal tbf but almost feel bad for the US given the balance of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 And there you go, in soccer you have to take your chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Nice goal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 That's a fantastic goal really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK22 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Lovely goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 YASSSSS!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 So much space, picked out nicely on the cut back, Memphis just waltzing into the box. Easy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Come on, USA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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