Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sanel said: Strange comment like some others here, hopping on the CR7 hate-boat. His international career just ended. His dream is over. He will never win a WC. If you can't get it your prolly a sociopath. What a load of nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sanel said: His international career just ended. His dream is over. He will never win a WC. If you can't get it your prolly a sociopath. This is the problem, it's not all about him though. It should always be about the team. The team won't win the WC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Confused Clarity said: What a load of nonsense. You're the other user posting same stuff, so I assume you feel attacked. Let it go please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sanel said: Strange comment like some others here, hopping on the CR7 hate-boat. Hate-boat It's a team game. If you're a senior player with his experience, you should put the team before yourself. Be there to support the youngsters in defeat, not storm off on your own for a sulk. Not sure why that's so hard to understand. Edited December 10, 2022 by Rob1981 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: It's a team game. If you're a senior player with his experience, you should put the team before yourself. Be there to support the youngsters in defeat, not storm on on your own for a sulk. It's a bit of both. He was looking for the fairy tale ending, so he will be devastated. But he hasn't shown leadership skills around the situation of being a sub, when seeing for instance the Switzerland match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I'll have to defend Ronaldo on this one, and I don't even like him that much Bloke is clearly going through some tough times - I think somethings a bit off with him emotionally - and he knows the cameras will all be on him. It's also the end of pretty much the last dream of his career. I can't blame him for wanting a private moment. The perfect thing to do is stay on the pitch, thank the fans, support your teammates etc, but in moments of high emotions it's okay not to act perfectly 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, noikeee said: The perfect thing to do is stay on the pitch, thank the fans, support your teammates etc, but in moments of high emotions it's okay not to act perfectly This, and that's why I see the respons after the Switzerland differently than after the Morroco game. 5 minutes ago, noikeee said: I'll have to defend Ronaldo on this one, and I don't even like him that much Sorry that we had to put you through that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 bit of a strop from Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, TM said: bit of a strop from Bruno Please tell me that's not a clickbait and taken out of context? Because if he really said that, he is more out of touch than Cristiano. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Hate-boat It's a team game. If you're a senior player with his experience, you should put the team before yourself. Be there to support the youngsters in defeat, not storm off on your own for a sulk. Not sure why that's so hard to understand. Losing my dream, I would do the same. I would have no emotional energy to support anyone. Imagine him crying on the pitch knowing all the cameras are aimed towards you. I actually feel gutted for him, and others too. Not choosing any sides here, however Messi did the same numerous times at Barca. Maradona was actually the player that was loved in every squad he played in. Players and even opponnents claim he cheered up everyone, as well in good times as bad times. It's just about characteristics. Edited December 10, 2022 by Sanel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not like Bruno to have a bit of a whinge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, TM said: bit of a strop from Bruno I’m shocked, he’s usually so calm and professional. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sanel said: You're the other user posting same stuff, so I assume you feel attacked. Let it go please. I think its you that needs to let it go and stop fangirling over somebody that doesn't deserve your adulation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, TM said: bit of a strop from Bruno Looks like a DJ post from the thread last night. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: I think its you that needs to let it go and stop fangirling over somebody that doesn't deserve your adulation. I'm not fan of anyone here. I feel frustrated because football lost against a side that refuses to play. Again. That's a bigger issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Bruno whining after a bad result? Who'd have thought?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sanel said: I'm not fan of anyone here. I feel frustrated because football lost against a side that refuses to play. Again. That's a bigger issue. Refuses to play but had the better chances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Looks like a DJ post from the thread last night. Not enough swear words Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sanel said: I'm not fan of anyone here. I feel frustrated because football lost against a side that refuses to play. Again. That's a bigger issue. What do you mean refused to play? Refused to play would be standing on the sidelines refusing to join the field. Morocco were the only team that put the ball in the net. Morocco did what they needed to get a result. Morocco won the game. Put some respect on their name. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sanel said: I'm not fan of anyone here. I feel frustrated because football lost against a side that refuses to play. Again. That's a bigger issue. shots: 9-9 on target: 3-3 The only side not playing was Portugal, who had three-quarters of the ball and couldn't score a goal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 I hate this rubbish about sides refusing to play. Morocco obviously can't go toe to toe with Portugal, especially with most of their best defenders injured. Every time they had the ball they tried to get forward. Even after taking the lead, they had one chance in the first half that could have led to a goal with a square pass and then should have scored again at the end. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not sure there will be many takers for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, VamPook said: Jurgen whining after a bad result? Who'd have thought?! Corrected for you 😝 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, decapitated said: Not sure there will be many takers for this. I prefer my children to be pictured with players who can score goals in the knockouts of a World Cup. I got my son a book with him pictured alongside Matthew Upson. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Darius1998 said: I hate this rubbish about sides refusing to play. Morocco obviously can't go toe to toe with Portugal, especially with most of their best defenders injured. Every time they had the ball they tried to get forward. Even after taking the lead, they had one chance in the first half that could have led to a goal with a square pass and then should have scored again at the end. That's the thing though, they did go toe-to-toe with them. They didn't have as much possession but they had as many shots, in total and on target, and they were just as dangerous if not more so than Portugal. Possession isn't everything and it definitely isn't an indicator of a team's willingness to attack/play football. I'd love to see the xG, because other than Pepe's free header, i don't recall a good chance for Portugal. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Confused Clarity said: What do you mean refused to play? Refused to play would be standing on the sidelines refusing to join the field. Morocco were the only team that put the ball in the net. Morocco did what they needed to get a result. Morocco won the game. Put some respect on their name. Reminds me a bit of Greece at EC 2004, where they actually played shambolic and had all the luck in the world. People are still talking about that when it's 18 years ago. I don't care about this particular game either. It's the whlole tournament. I find it worrying that top nations have no answer against sides that sit back. Even top nations start every game very passive. It's hurting the entertainment factor of football. This game won't be remembered by beautiful football or whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Cristiano has acted appallingly this season, but I’ve got no issue with him going off crying. Footballers aren’t robots. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, decapitated said: Not sure there will be many takers for this. "A wonderful story about teamwork" "Once upon a time, the captain of the national team stormed off for being subbed. He later cried when his inability to work in a team cost his nation. Don't be like Ronaldo" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Sanel said: Reminds me a bit of Greece at EC 2004, where they actually played shambolic and had all the luck in the world. People are still talking about that when it's 18 years ago. Luck? That Greek team is probably the best defensive performance in history of football. Quote I don't care about this particular game either. It's the whlole tournament. I find it worrying that top nations have no answer against sides that sit back. Even top nations start every game very passive. There is an answer. It's called actually having strikers who can hold the ball up and get physical against teams defending deep. Why do you think Giroud is still playing? Quote It's hurting the entertainment factor of football. This game won't be remembered by beautiful football or whatsoever. Entertainment factor? How do you expect a team like Morocco to play against a team like Portugal? Did you see their striker who got sent off? He plays for a Serie B team that hasn't played in Serie A for a decade. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, aggressive minor said: Cristiano has acted appallingly this season, but I’ve got no issue with him going off crying. Footballers aren’t robots. Just to add, having a camera shoved in your face during an upsetting moment isn’t normal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) On the Ronaldo thing, I personally find it possible to think he’s a piece of **** for storming off down the tunnel and not consoling team mates or shaking hands etc, whilst at the same time find the pictures of him crying in the tunnel to be somewhat disturbing. The guy was clearly distraught. I also find it completely reasonable and indeed understandable for people to find it hilarious. So I’m not having a go at anybody for doing so. I just personally found it uncomfortable to see what he clearly needed to be a private moment. I have always thought this when they follow players down the tunnel. They go down there to get away from the cauldron, not for intimate shots And it’s ok by the way before people get annoyed that I found it disturbing. I’m not saying anyone who didn’t is bad. I know the internet likes to be binary but not everything has to be right and wrong. Edited December 10, 2022 by Mr Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: There is an answer. It's called actually having strikers who can hold the ball up and get physical against teams defending deep. Maybe in 2004. Nowadays teams play 4231 and leave no space by crowding the middle. Your Inter side does kinda the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Hurting the entertainment factor Brazil scores in the ET, Croatia equalizes incredibly and wins on penalties. Argentina 2-0 up, Netherlands scores a great header and equalizes in the 100. minute with a ridiculous free kick combination. Morocco outplays a huge favourite and run their hearts to the ground for their country. Thats proper entertainment, something only football can deliver out of all sports. Have your skill moves and useless tricks at club football level. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, noikeee said: I'll have to defend Ronaldo on this one, and I don't even like him that much Bloke is clearly going through some tough times - I think somethings a bit off with him emotionally - and he knows the cameras will all be on him. It's also the end of pretty much the last dream of his career. I can't blame him for wanting a private moment. The perfect thing to do is stay on the pitch, thank the fans, support your teammates etc, but in moments of high emotions it's okay not to act perfectly I see it both ways. Don't think walking off for a cry after a top level career-ending away defeat is a particularly terrible thing to do, not sure it's that unusual (most players don't have a cam following them), and I'm not sure him hanging around would have helped the younger players in any way On the other hand the reason the hate exists and he got his own cam following him is because he's made a habit of storming off down tunnels recently for much less reason. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Nah **** Rinaldo's tears. He's crying for himself and himself alone. He couldn't give a **** about how anyone else there is feeling. Everything he does, every single thing, is about him. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Why does my phone keep correcting to Rinaldo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Ackter said: Why does my phone keep correcting to Rinaldo? I don't know but I'm absolutely here for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, kpain16 said: Hurting the entertainment factor Brazil scores in the ET, Croatia equalizes incredibly and wins on penalties. Argentina 2-0 up, Netherlands scores a great header and equalizes in the 100. minute with a ridiculous free kick combination. Morocco outplays a huge favourite and run their hearts to the ground for their country. Thats proper entertainment, something only football can deliver out of all sports. Have your skill moves and useless tricks at club football level. I agree. But I blame Portugal for not showing enough courage, they started very passive as well. I just think a lot of nations aren't showing their best football now. I find it worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ackter said: Nah **** Rinaldo's tears. He's crying for himself and himself alone. He couldn't give a **** about how anyone else there is feeling. Everything he does, every single thing, is about him. He's not very good at handling being refused anything he wants. Probably mostly upset that he couldn't just take it anyway. Edited December 10, 2022 by Confused Clarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Adam said: On the Ronaldo thing, I personally find it possible to think he’s a piece of **** for storming off down the tunnel and not consoling team mates or shaking hands etc, whilst at the same time find the pictures of him crying in the tunnel to be somewhat disturbing. The guy was clearly distraught. I also find it completely reasonable and indeed understandable for people to find it hilarious. So I’m not having a go at anybody for doing so. I just personally found it uncomfortable to see what he clearly needed to be a private moment. I have always thought this when they follow players down the tunnel. They go down there to get away from the cauldron, not for intimate shots And it’s ok by the way before people get annoyed that I found it disturbing. I’m not saying anyone who didn’t is bad. I know the internet likes to be binary but not everything has to be right and wrong. For probably almost any other player you would feel some compassion for those tears Cristiano? Nah 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said: Luck? That Greek team is probably the best defensive performance in history of football. There is an answer. It's called actually having strikers who can hold the ball up and get physical against teams defending deep. Why do you think Giroud is still playing? Entertainment factor? How do you expect a team like Morocco to play against a team like Portugal? Did you see their striker who got sent off? He plays for a Serie B team that hasn't played in Serie A for a decade. Best poster on the forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 hours ago, TM said: He also said the referee wasn't used to the level of intensity of the game. Would say that a Copa Libertadores referee is used to some intensity right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Fair enough if you want to see teams playing defensive football go out imo But Portugal and Morocco would both play with the same ambition against France. And one of those scenarios doesn't have Ronaldo crying today. Caught up with this after the England game, I was expecting a bit more from Portugal in the second half. Morocco have a good defence combined with players in Boufal and Ziyech who can get past people on the counter even if isolated. They are going to struggle if they concede first but they are a solid team. Edited December 10, 2022 by The_jagster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said: Luck? That Greek team is probably the best defensive performance in history of football. Once Caldas in Libertadores 2004, they beat Santos, São Paulo and Boca to win the title, then lost to Porto on penalties in the Intercontinental Cup. The way they were so often defending and defending was nerve-wrecking. Edited December 11, 2022 by PMLF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 I'm gonna back Morocco to go all the way cos it's about time there was an African champion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 This is wonderful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 One thing that seems to have been slightly lost in all the Ronaldo talk and all other talking points is this is the first ever African side to reach a semi final. It would've been Ghana in 2010 if not for Suárez, no other team has been this close for a while. An amazing achievement by an actually pretty talented generation of Moroccan players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, noikeee said: One thing that seems to have been slightly lost in all the Ronaldo talk and all other talking points is this is the first ever African side to reach a semi final. It would've been Ghana in 2010 if not for Suárez, no other team has been this close for a while. An amazing achievement by an actually pretty talented generation of Moroccan players. Too bad they're not actually African, footballing wise. Just a handful of them have any senior football minutes in Moroccan clubs, most were at European clubs from the earliest age, even the ones not born in Europe. If anything, this is just detrimental for African football. Team full of imported players doing way better than teams with domestically developed players. Edited December 11, 2022 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Too bad they're not actually African, footballing wise. Just a handful of them have any senior football minutes in Moroccan clubs, most were at European clubs from the earliest age, even the ones not born in Europe. If anything, this is just detrimental for African football. Team full of imported players doing way better than teams with domestically developed players. As opposed to all the other competitive African teams with a core of players from African leagues Like, for example.....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 minute ago, noikeee said: competitive African teams That's exactly the problem. Ghana also started recruiting players from Europe who can't make the NTs they wanted to play for. Nothing wrong with getting a player or two, Croatia also has them, but if your entire NT philosophy is based on getting scraps from Europe, long-term it's going to be bad. This is Morocco's golden generation, but a generation they recruited from Europe. When all of your best players are products of Spanish, Netherlands and French football youth system, I'm not sure it can be called Africa's success, unfortunately. And this result will only make more teams go all in on recruitment from Europe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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