KingBuzzo15 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, trevjim said: I found HOI4 better with a tiny nation. Having a big one like UK or Germany was just overwhelming That's a good way to play a Paradox game. For instance I've been playing Victoria 3 and as Switzerland, because they basically remained neutral, so I can learn the economics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronFM Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 It’s 16:00! Another hour till the bar opens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Lucas said: HOI4 is lots of fun but I did spend a few hundred hours on it before I could consider myself good enough to win a save. Currently trying Star Trek Infinite and suffering in much the same way to learn everything. Stop trying to get involved, get that beta button pressed 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Lucas said: HOI4 is lots of fun but I did spend a few hundred hours on it before I could consider myself good enough to win a save. Currently trying Star Trek Infinite and suffering in much the same way to learn everything. Edited October 18, 2023 by KillYourIdols Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevjim Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chelsea1903 said: I’m a big fan of them. I’m surprised there isn’t a bigger overlap between fm and paradox games. Feels like that whole idea of strategy and thinking carry over. Agreed. Although I think a lot of FM players are simply football players. I have mates who never play games aside from FM. The Motorsport manager series is good too. F1 manager have a couple out now but it's got 0 management aspects and just looks flashy so it's not a great game beneath the surface. Couldn't really get into OOTPB. Would love an NFL version of it. There was a small team making "beyond the sidelines football" but sadly the lead Dev died. Edited October 18, 2023 by trevjim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Page 138! Wow, must be bettong closer now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, CameronFM said: It’s 16:00! Another hour till the bar opens I'll have a Captain Morgan Spiced. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, girotex8 said: I think most people would be understanding as long as it was communicated clearly and effectively enough beforehand. The issue is that there are no competitors with a product anywhere near as good as theirs (which is a complement and a credit to them btw), so there is no incentive for them to improve customer engagement. If there were 2/3 different highly competitive products in the field, you can bet that they would be communicating constantly with their customers, because they couldn't afford such complacency. It's a constructive criticism that's all, and not an unreasonable one. There were people in here on Monday and Tuesday all day waiting for the beta. Presumably there was no chance of a release on those days. Would it be horrendous for someone in the know to inform their loyal customers that it wasn't going to be ready? I really don't think so. i think its something that will always divide opinion. some like the speculation, others want a definitive date for the beta. i was here all day monday, most of tuesday and today reading the posts during work. to me its part of the lead up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 минуту назад, CaptainPanty сказал: Ah yes i forgot Cities Skylines was a paradox games. I love it, it's the best city builder ever made. Paradox is publisher. Devs are Colossal Order. But in terms of the amount of DLC, this is 100% a Paradox game 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonthedon26 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Lucas said: HOI4 is lots of fun but I did spend a few hundred hours on it before I could consider myself good enough to win a save. Currently trying Star Trek Infinite and suffering in much the same way to learn everything. I have tried to get into HOI4 soooooo many times, it is impossible haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbz2012 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, PGHJuice said: To any Sunderland residents, I apologize for what I’ve started lol It's fine most agree 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted October 18, 2023 Administrators Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, bigmattb28 said: Stop trying to get involved, get that beta button pressed boo-urns. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea1903 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, zakbrown96 said: Honestly you are better off turning on notifications on Twitter if you have it for FM news saves all the is it here nonsense gifs 😂 I’ve had them going for a week. I’m not turning them off. That way, when I stop getting notifications, I’ll know the beta is out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, kevhamster said: That learning "curve" is so steep it's pretty much vertical! I was playing online with an experienced player. We had sessions totalling a good few hours and even with him explaining stuff I was still mostly confused! Yep that's the biggest issue with it. I played CK2 so knew what I was doing. But once you do know it's so satisfying to see agrand plan come together you set in motion 50 years prior. Or in a lot of cases seeing all your plans go bad and the roof cave in on your entire bloodline 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGoo85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, samrnpage said: There has been another Steam DB update 7 minutes ago, so that is 5 for today - does that match fm23? there was many more and those updates weren't just change logs to the version. last years had a lot more updates to other things on beta day. i could be wrong but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonthedon26 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, trevjim said: Agreed. Although I think a lot of FM players are simply football players. I have mates who never play games aside from FM. The Motorsport manager series is good too. F1 manager have a couple out now but it's got 0 management aspects and just looks flashy so it's not a great game beneath the surface. Couldn't really get into OOTPB. Would love an NFL version of it. There was a small team making "beyond the sidelines football" but sadly the lead Dev died. Draft Day Sports football is decent although not great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 минуты назад, kevhamster сказал: That learning "curve" is so steep it's pretty much vertical! I was playing online with an experienced player. We had sessions totalling a good few hours and even with him explaining stuff I was still mostly confused! As far as I remember, there was a popular video on YouTube 'Tutorial about CK3 Tutorial' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Lempicka said: Page 138! Wow, must be bettong closer now. I can confidently predict it's closer than when the thread started, yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronFM Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, kevhamster said: I'll have a Captain Morgan Spiced. Cheers! Great choice! I wonder why all these folks are gathered here, not sure what they are waiting for if it isn’t a beverage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea1903 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I will also say that EU4 is the easiest game to get into, system-wise. What’s not easy to get into is it’s dlc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Novem9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 минуты назад, Chelsea1903 сказал: I’ve had them going for a week. I’m not turning them off. That way, when I stop getting notifications, I’ll know the beta is out. Genius in the thread 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Dagenham_Dave said: I can confidently predict it's closer than when the thread started, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simsimmabrfc85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simsimmabrfc85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Tonight is the night! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBuzzo15 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, trevjim said: Agreed. Although I think a lot of FM players are simply football players. I have mates who never play games aside from FM. The Motorsport manager series is good too. F1 manager have a couple out now but it's got 0 management aspects and just looks flashy so it's not a great game beneath the surface. Couldn't really get into OOTPB. Would love an NFL version of it. There was a small team making "beyond the sidelines football" but sadly the lead Dev died. I got into Franchise Hockey Manager. Love that you can play a historical game all the way back to the NHL start and play all the way to modern day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, trevjim said: The Motorsport manager series is good too. F1 manager have a couple out now but it's got 0 management aspects and just looks flashy so it's not a great game beneath the surface. I found them to largely be the same thing TBH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Simsimmabrfc85 said: Tonight is the night! Yes, yes it is* *Unless it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 минуты назад, trevjim сказал: The Motorsport manager series is good too It's good, but too superficial. It seems like this is a mobile game from the start. There was a lack of staff management (especially the pit crew), and the development of new parts was obscenely arcade-like. But it was fun anw. I was particularly pleased with the difficulty scale from -10 to 10, where 0 = normal difficulty. Zero chance of frustration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(sic) Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Novem9 said: Paradox is publisher. Devs are Colossal Order. But in terms of the amount of DLC, this is 100% a Paradox game Speaking of, I was afraid Cities Skylines 2 and FM24 would release on the same day... In that case I'd need to take a week off from work, because these are the 2 of my most anticipated games right now. Thankfully beta is releasing later today, so I'll play it this weekend, and have time for Cities during the next week. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Simsimmabrfc85 said: Tonight is the night! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven dlier Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Simsimmabrfc85 said: Tonight is the night! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFourRED Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Feels like today could be the day. Within the hour I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Simsimmabrfc85 said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, KingBuzzo15 said: I got into Franchise Hockey Manager. Love that you can play a historical game all the way back to the NHL start and play all the way to modern day. Football Mogul is similar to that with the NFL - Any season in the past you can start with. I've never done a full season in historical mode, so I've no idea how the drafts work. I suspect there will be a lot of rewriting history though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHJuice Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Omega Luke just tweeted that we’re very close to the beta he didn’t go into specifics, but we can dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 What's the public opinion? Out tonight or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorbenjy Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: He's a funny guy, always came across as some sort of self appointed mob boss of football manager youtubers. I might not have seen enough of him but what a thoroughly charmless guy. I really should have stopped reading after 'he's a funny guy' 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, PGHJuice said: Omega Luke just tweeted that we’re very close to the beta he didn’t go into specifics, but we can dream I'd rather Beta Luke 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Cities Skylines is great. I also forgot that was a Paradox game. I'll get CS2 once it's been out a while and on sale. In a moment of excitement, I pre-ordered CS2 and FM24 at the same time, as if there were enough hours in the day for both of them. Risky. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
we88y Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I'm starting to lose faith for today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonfun1980 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I would just like someone to come out and say its not today. So we all can get on with things and come back tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBuzzo15 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Dagenham_Dave said: Football Mogul is similar to that with the NFL - Any season in the past you can start with. I've never done a full season in historical mode, so I've no idea how the drafts work. I suspect there will be a lot of rewriting history though. You can set it up so players appear at the right teams when they were drafted instead of having drafts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPanty Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 à l’instant, (sic) a dit : Speaking of, I was afraid Cities Skylines 2 and FM24 would release on the same day... In that case I'd need to take a week off from work, because these are the 2 of my most anticipated games right now. Thankfully beta is releasing later today, so I'll play it this weekend, and have time for Cities during the next week. These are two games you can plays on the same time. i played a lot FM23 with Flight Sim on another screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRedditch Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, doctorbenjy said: I really should have stopped reading after 'he's a funny guy' It's really mad how people talk about others in a way they never would if they were sitting across a table from one another. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PGHJuice said: Omega Luke just tweeted that we’re very close to the beta he didn’t go into specifics, but we can dream Edited October 18, 2023 by gunner86 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 минуту назад, (sic) сказал: Speaking of, I was afraid Cities Skylines 2 and FM24 would release on the same day... In that case I'd need to take a week off from work, because these are the 2 of my most anticipated games right now. Thankfully beta is releasing later today, so I'll play it this weekend, and have time for Cities during the next week. At some point I lost the time and desire to read developer diaries. So I don't really understand how is good vanilla CS2 without mods. It took me a long time in the first part to learn how to build beautiful cities, not square areas with traffic jams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhofte Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonfun1980 said: I would just like someone to come out and say its not today. So we all can get on with things and come back tomorrow. okay it's not today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBuzzo15 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, CaptainPanty said: These are two games you can plays on the same time. i played a lot FM23 with Flight Sim on another screen. Did your processor look like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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