daveh83 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Fuming bought off cdkeys at time only one version out so I assumed it came with beta release. Now weeks later they’ve release another version for £3 more stating early release. Screwed now I guess! And they won’t do anything about it. I offered to pay the extra for another code. Think there’s a chance it’ll unlock anyways on beta day ? Ha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Should have bought from certified sellers and not from shady third market ones. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplpeters1900 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, -Jef- said: Should have bought from certified sellers and not from shady third market ones. They are a certified seller... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hufcpaul Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 51 minutes ago, daveh83 said: Fuming bought off cdkeys at time only one version out so I assumed it came with beta release. Now weeks later they’ve release another version for £3 more stating early release. Screwed now I guess! And they won’t do anything about it. I offered to pay the extra for another code. Think there’s a chance it’ll unlock anyways on beta day ? Ha Think I bought it off there a few years ago and it included beta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, cplpeters1900 said: They are a certified seller... Nope. https://www.sega.com/sega-approved-partner-list 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, daveh83 said: Fuming bought off cdkeys at time only one version out so I assumed it came with beta release. Now weeks later they’ve release another version for £3 more stating early release. Screwed now I guess! And they won’t do anything about it. I offered to pay the extra for another code. Think there’s a chance it’ll unlock anyways on beta day ? Ha Do you already have the game in your Steam library? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Do you already have the game in your Steam library? Ye and then week later this new one came out with early release ! So dunno mine will unlock on beta day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, daveh83 said: Ye and then week later this new one came out with early release ! So dunno mine will unlock on beta day. If you already have the key and it's in your Steam account it *should* unlock on Beta day but I couldn't 100% swear to it. Edited October 10, 2023 by kevhamster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, kevhamster said: If you already have the key and it's in your Steam account it *should* unlock on Beta day but I couldn't 100% swear to it. Dunno why they have now brought out a new one for £3 more saying early release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razal Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 If you have it in your steam library it should have beta access, The sellers who doesnt have beta access provides the key at the time of release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 9 hours ago, daveh83 said: Dunno why they have now brought out a new one for £3 more saying early release They operate in an allegedly grey area of legality, so perhaps a scheme to get users to pay more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, XaW said: They operate in an allegedly grey area of legality, so perhaps a scheme to get users to pay more? But am screwed unless I buy a new code with “early access” am guessing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRedditch Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Steam won't be able to differentiate between a copy sold as 'early access' and one that's not. The only difference between them is when you receive your key. If you've already received it and activated it on Steam, you'll get beta access. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, SuperRedditch said: Steam won't be able to differentiate between a copy sold as 'early access' and one that's not. The only difference between them is when you receive your key. If you've already received it and activated it on Steam, you'll get beta access. Hope so mate and if that’s the case I’ll never be buying from them again awful that milking ppl of extra money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, daveh83 said: But am screwed unless I buy a new code with “early access” am guessing ? Who knows? That's the issue with buying for any non-approved retailers, you don't know what you are getting. That's why SEGA has an approved partner list (as I posted above), as they state there Quote If you purchase your SEGA products from an unauthorised retailer, there is a risk that the product may be defective or unlawfully obtained. SEGA’s policy is to uphold product warranties, and to perform services on products, purchased from authorised retailers only. SEGA also reserves its right to disable digital keys that have been obtained unlawfully by unauthorised distributors, without any further liability. So if you buy from any shady place that has gotten the keys "unlawfully", the codes can be disabled. Of course, that's the worst case scenario, and I'm not saying that will happen with that store, but that is a risk since you don't know about how they get the keys. I bought a key from CD Keys a long time ago, and it was just a shady picture of an activation code. And when I typed it in, I was told it was already in use, so I had to contact them and go through a whole process, and eventually I got a new code a few weeks later. This was not for FM, but another game, just to be clear. Haven't used them since then, since that was not exactly how I wanted it. And only to save a pound or two. Hopefully, your code will work in Steam and you'll have access, but this is the risk one takes when buying away from the approved list, so you do so at your own risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, daveh83 said: Hope so mate and if that’s the case I’ll never be buying from them again awful that milking ppl of extra money. Sounds like a really shady practice. It's the new in thing to charge for early access so I imagine some genius thought they were missing out on a few quid and brought in the early access tier and they'll email keys out for the cheaper option on release. if you've already got a key and activated it you are golden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian2112 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I don't think CDkeys is 'shady'. I have bought from them FM15, FM17, FM19, FM23 and now FM24 and I have never had issues with any of them, although I don't recall if any of those were good for beta releases. But I can live without the 2 weeks extra (buggy) gameplay, when the price is ~20 EUR less (FM24 I got for 34.79 EUR, retail price is 53.99 EUR). 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuDbuD Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Most CD key sites aren't shady at all. If the game is in your Steam library you will have beta access like the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnuGoku Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 16 horas atrás, daveh83 disse: Fuming bought off cdkeys at time only one version out so I assumed it came with beta release. Now weeks later they’ve release another version for £3 more stating early release. Screwed now I guess! And they won’t do anything about it. I offered to pay the extra for another code. Think there’s a chance it’ll unlock anyways on beta day ? Ha Never had issues with cdkeys and i buy games from them for about 6/7 years But hey, you cannot assume something without information! If there was no info on beta you should have asked them if that version was with beta By the time you got the code and activated on Steam as you said, certainly they will not give you another code just for pay extra, not cdkeys not anybody But, i know some guys who brought the FM23 in same conditions (no info about the beta) and they had beta, so i hope it goes green to you to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I've used CD Keys for several years. Completely reliable, fast service, always cheaper than Steam or other retailers. I'm sorry for the thread starter that you didn't get Beta. But just from my POV it was clearly indicated, two options, one with beta one without - the latter being slightly cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Rowell said: I've used CD Keys for several years. Completely reliable, fast service, always cheaper than Steam or other retailers. I'm sorry for the thread starter that you didn't get Beta. But just from my POV it was clearly indicated, two options, one with beta one without - the latter being slightly cheaper. Not when I first purchased !!! U need to read properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Rowell said: I've used CD Keys for several years. Completely reliable, fast service, always cheaper than Steam or other retailers. I'm sorry for the thread starter that you didn't get Beta. But just from my POV it was clearly indicated, two options, one with beta one without - the latter being slightly cheaper. And who says am not getting beta??? I have the key entered and fully on my steam like last poster said it’s likely I’ll get it coz it’s all verified. Please read the whole thread before posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 5 hours ago, BuDbuD said: Most CD key sites aren't shady at all. If the game is in your Steam library you will have beta access like the rest of us. This is really not true. A number of the larger digital game sales platforms are questionable - especially the ones that will list several sellers when looking up a specific game. These are known as grey market resellers. Not strictly illegal, but they seem to do minimal checks as to where people obtained the keys they're selling so when buying the keys there's a chance they were sourced illegally. Ask youself, why would these sites need to sell, at an extra cost, a "buyer protection" in case there's a problem with the key? CD Keys are included in that bracket, along with other large players such as Kinguin, G2A and Allkeyshop. Your best bet for checking a site is 100% legitimate, is checking Publisher sites for authorised retailers. Or, if you want a quick way to look, any site listed at https://isthereanydeal.com/ is 100% legitimate and not a grey market reseller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, kevhamster said: This is really not true. A number of the larger digital game sales platforms are questionable - especially the ones that will list several sellers when looking up a specific game. These are known as grey market resellers. Not strictly illegal, but they seem to do minimal checks as to where people obtained the keys they're selling so when buying the keys there's a chance they were sourced illegally. Ask youself, why would these sites need to sell, at an extra cost, a "buyer protection" in case there's a problem with the key? CD Keys are included in that bracket, along with other large players such as Kinguin, G2A and Allkeyshop. Your best bet for checking a site is 100% legitimate, is checking Publisher sites for authorised retailers. Or, if you want a quick way to look, any site listed at https://isthereanydeal.com/ is 100% legitimate and not a grey market reseller. Not to mention that most of these sites have cd keys bought with stolen credit cards or have stolen keys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, daveh83 said: And who says am not getting beta??? I have the key entered and fully on my steam like last poster said it’s likely I’ll get it coz it’s all verified. Please read the whole thread before posting. For someone who came on here asking for advice and assistance, you're being quite hostile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razal Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, daveh83 said: And who says am not getting beta??? I have the key entered and fully on my steam like last poster said it’s likely I’ll get it coz it’s all verified. Please read the whole thread before posting. Brother, I thought this whole discussion started because you thought you wont get beta right?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, -Jef- said: Not to mention that most of these sites have cd keys bought with stolen credit cards or have stolen keys. That goes into my point with the buyers protection thing for issues with any purchased keys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alekos Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 The cheaper version at their site says that-----> NOTE: EARLY ACCESS IS NOT INCLUDED FOR THIS EDITION Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 55 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said: For someone who came on here asking for advice and assistance, you're being quite hostile Ppl should read the whole post not jump in with a worthless 5ps worth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alekos said: The cheaper version at their site says that-----> NOTE: EARLY ACCESS IS NOT INCLUDED FOR THIS EDITION That’s my understanding but like others have said I already have the code and it’s on my steam ? So am confused ?? Is there special keys for beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Alright, think this thread has run it's course. OP has gotten some feedback and there has been a nice discussion about grey markets. So closing this off before it turns sour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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