Ilici Man Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I know people have tried and failed in the past. I have also tried and failed now. I was curious if anyone has been able to do it and explain how it can be done... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) I got it to work in FM20 but the issues were that the All Star team players were all generated . I logged it for 3 years as a bug and you can guess from there what didn't happen . Edited November 20, 2023 by alian62 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilici Man Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 yeah. i managed to get to that point too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 There are weird flags and stuff you'll randomly find like "get all-star opposition" under the "teams" entries. But combining them all with all the various stage rules and competition type never worked for me either. I wonder if there's some kind of coding like with national team selections being tied in there, as it kind of functions in a similar way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I have managed to set it up in my Thailand database. Copied the format from South Korea, instead of 2 All Star teams i have the Thai Premier League All Stars and the Premier League winner. All is working so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Whaaaat for real? Interesting, I'll try and set up an MLS Next one by copying MLS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 6 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Whaaaat for real? Interesting, I'll try and set up an MLS Next one by copying MLS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Also managed to set up All Star Games in Vietnam and Cambodia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Can you get picked as coach? Do the players get "called up" a couple of days before? Gonna experiment with it myself, cheers though, this is promising. I don't think those settings worked in past editions but maybe none of us had the right combination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, themodelcitizen said: Can you get picked as coach? Do the players get "called up" a couple of days before? Gonna experiment with it myself, cheers though, this is promising. I don't think those settings worked in past editions but maybe none of us had the right combination I haven’t actually tried in game testing as manager, just been holidaying to make sure everything works. Players get selected maybe 3-4 days prior to the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Mine's still calling up fake players but I'm sure I'm missing a step somewhere. Does the comp itself (K-League or Thai top league or whatever) have any settings adjusted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, themodelcitizen said: Mine's still calling up fake players but I'm sure I'm missing a step somewhere. Does the comp itself (K-League or Thai top league or whatever) have any settings adjusted? That why I gave up years ago . Only gets fake players. Numerous bug posts to SI resulted in no replies so they are not interested or it's a very low priority . I would say its in the editor for future releases and is probably missing codes at this point . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 14 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Mine's still calling up fake players but I'm sure I'm missing a step somewhere. Does the comp itself (K-League or Thai top league or whatever) have any settings adjusted? Havent changed anything in the competition settings. It seems the All Star Competition doesnt have to be special, but the All Star Team seems to be the key. Thailand and Cambodia have all star teams as default in the database, for Vietnam i have used the K-League All Star team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Yeah I tried duplicating an existing All-Star team, that doesn't seem to work. Interesting, though, if we can repurpose some of the hard-coded ones... just means you'd sacrifice being able to have it in both (i.e. it sounds like you've effectively sacrificed the K-League All-Star Game for your created Viet one). But Cambodia and Thailand aren't in there by default, right? You had to make them as custom leagues? Maybe I can use one of those and just leave a disclaimer that it's incompatible with that country having one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 18 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Yeah I tried duplicating an existing All-Star team, that doesn't seem to work. Interesting, though, if we can repurpose some of the hard-coded ones... just means you'd sacrifice being able to have it in both (i.e. it sounds like you've effectively sacrificed the K-League All-Star Game for your created Viet one). But Cambodia and Thailand aren't in there by default, right? You had to make them as custom leagues? Maybe I can use one of those and just leave a disclaimer that it's incompatible with that country having one Yeah so i've used the K-League All Star comp (136411) and All Star team (45015548) for Vietnam Thailand have an All Star comp (23341966) and team (23341952) in the database Cambodia i just used their League Cup comp (23263188) for the All Star comp, they have an All Star team (23348937) in the database Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dygon Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Hello guys, if it can help, I was planning to create a UEFA All-Star Game. 4 teams representing the top four European leagues (Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga). I started experimenting, and at the moment, I've created only 2 clubs. The trick is not to duplicate an existing All-Star team. I managed to recreate the "Premier League All Stars" and "Serie A All Stars" by modifying two extinct all-star clubs from Greece (Greeks, Foreigners). The competition works (I copied the MLS All-Star Game), and the players from their respective leagues are selected. However, unfortunately, there isn't a precise criterion, and the players chosen the first time tend to stay for a long time, even after changing teams or the nation of the league. maybe some configurations need adjusting (Players -> All Star Team Rules), but I must say this is the most successful attempt among all the ones I've made over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 That's fascinating. Has anyone got it working by taking players from a cup competition instead of a league? Like, "FA Cup All-Stars" for example? I'm using a specific cup and want to draw the All-Stars from the cup instead, as the league itself is inactive. I was using the extinct Thai and Viet All-Star teams but they still drew fake players, I figured it was because I was pulling from a cup comp instead of the league (although I tried a few different settings that way). @Dygon There's an All-Star rule that's something like "allow previous players" right? Maybe they specifically added that in to counter All Star teams regularly picking the same players over and over. There are criteria like "potential ability" and "competition stats" you can tell it to pull players by, which is interesting if it works This lot might be interested in a working All-Star function: Spoiler @Yespy13 @wkdsoul @tbhtrg @Sapa @Unknown Hacker @krlenjushka @acidmonkey @inphex1 @Sambamtime @Supermercado99 @Palk @mt90 @oche balboa @UkFootballScore @Wolf_pd @indy111 @Celtic501 @Yianni5063 @Samuel77 @EnigMattic1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: That's fascinating. Has anyone got it working by taking players from a cup competition instead of a league? Like, "FA Cup All-Stars" for example? I'm using a specific cup and want to draw the All-Stars from the cup instead, as the league itself is inactive. I was using the extinct Thai and Viet All-Star teams but they still drew fake players, I figured it was because I was pulling from a cup comp instead of the league (although I tried a few different settings that way). @Dygon There's an All-Star rule that's something like "allow previous players" right? Maybe they specifically added that in to counter All Star teams regularly picking the same players over and over. There are criteria like "potential ability" and "competition stats" you can tell it to pull players by, which is interesting if it works This lot might be interested in a working All-Star function: Reveal hidden contents @Yespy13 @wkdsoul @tbhtrg @Sapa @Unknown Hacker @krlenjushka @acidmonkey @inphex1 @Sambamtime @Supermercado99 @Palk @mt90 @oche balboa @UkFootballScore @Wolf_pd @indy111 @Celtic501 @Yianni5063 @Samuel77 @EnigMattic1 So many possibilities if the correct options were available in the editor. I can't imagine it would be that hard to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorITA Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Could be possible to do something like that but taking the best players from a nation or a local region instead of a league? Like an actual national? In this way we could get unlimited national teams :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilici Man Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 wow, i need to start again and see if i can make it work in my db too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilici Man Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 so, i've done some testing and yes, reusing existing all star teams seems to be the solution. though i'm still having plenty of trouble with it. i tried a game between last year's champions and an all star team and i can't find a way for the all star team not to select players from the champions too. another issue i encountered was that players out on loan abroad, also seem to be selected. i also tried a tournament between 4 regional all star teams but, regardless of the options i tried to set for the teams to get their players from, only one out of 4 teams actually uses real players and the ones it uses have nothing in common with the filters i set for it. (i've tried to test it by setting it to pull players from some lower divisions only but it uses first league players) i'm adding the db i am using oly4.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilici Man Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 so, quick update. i have managed to set up an all star game between locals and foreigners. seems to work fine though i think i might need to see what happens when players have dual nationality i have not been able to set up an all star game between the last year's champions and an all star team. i just can't figure out how to get the all star team to not select players from last year's champions. players selected like that were unavailable for both teams i'm trying to set up a regional tournament of 4 all star teams but, so far, i'm encountering a strange issue. if i use "best local region teams" to define the player pool, it seems to work fine with 2 teams but, as soon as i set up the third all star team, the rules start to be ignored and i see players selected from the wrong regions. i'm gonna try and see if i can use another option to get this to work latest version (in the 4 team tournament 2 teams are still the copies, i have not moved all star teams from other countries): oly8.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dygon Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Hello everyone! I'm glad to know that my tests have helped other editing lovers. I'm updating you with another discovery... using an extinct All-Star competition (beyond the teams) makes the tournament features more stable. I tested by renaming the Greek All-Star, turning it into a Cup of Stars that, based on the results of the custom league I created, picks more or less the best players of that season. You obviously need to set the items well in the rule PLAYERS - "All-Star Team Rules". The options that gave me satisfactory results (with the All-Star Team having a functioning player change) are where I checked: pick manager for team pick player using competitions stats don't use players selected before max squad size: 18 domestic average rating ignore condition then in the "squad selection rules" section, I added the "goalkeeper in squad" rule value: 2 - criteria: more than. My "Major League" competition includes 24 teams divided into 2 groups of 12. My need is actually to have two All-Star teams that compete (like the first editions of the MLS All-Star), based on the results of Group A and Group B. Here I still encounter some difficulties because the competition cannot understand how to divide the statistics of teams that belong to one group rather than another. So, you might see coaches and players selected in both teams. To overcome this problem, perhaps you should create statistics that differentiate the two competitions, so you have 2 different statistics based on the average ratings and performances of players and goals scored. Instead, as for making the All-Star Team of the Major League meet the All-Star Team of the Minor League, I haven't encountered problems of this kind. Another very interesting function was trying an international tournament where I managed to have the All-Star Team of my league participate against normal teams like Barca, Real, PSG, and Juve. Registering the team directly in the TEAMS - Registered Teams panel. I tested only one season, and it works, more or less capturing the players who stood out in the regular season of the league (although it doesn't reflect the TOP 11 that is awarded). It's crucial that there are end-of-year awards in your league. This way, it will be easier for the algorithm to extrapolate the players' average. So, various awards like "best goalkeeper" or "best defender" will help you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxbox Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I have had some success with this and managed to make a version that has a PL all-star team V another selected team, I am currently making the Isle of Scilly League, they have an XI team playing a mainland team in the UK for this trophy below, however even with the same settings used for the PL allstars, the players in the League are not selected, and it uses greyed out randoms, any thoughts, the cup is at the start of the season, do i need to add some average ratings for the previous year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, Coxbox said: I have had some success with this and managed to make a version that has a PL all-star team V another selected team, I am currently making the Isle of Scilly League, they have an XI team playing a mainland team in the UK for this trophy below, however even with the same settings used for the PL allstars, the players in the League are not selected, and it uses greyed out randoms, any thoughts, the cup is at the start of the season, do i need to add some average ratings for the previous year. This is the problem that no one has solved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilici Man Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 On 09/02/2024 at 00:50, Coxbox said: I have had some success with this and managed to make a version that has a PL all-star team V another selected team, I am currently making the Isle of Scilly League, they have an XI team playing a mainland team in the UK for this trophy below, however even with the same settings used for the PL allstars, the players in the League are not selected, and it uses greyed out randoms, any thoughts, the cup is at the start of the season, do i need to add some average ratings for the previous year. have you created the all start team yourself or have you just renamed an existing extinct all star team? you should just rename an existing one from south korea or china or australia or somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dygon Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Il 9/2/2024 in 00:56 , alian62 ha scritto: This is the problem that no one has solved What do you mean no one has resolved it? I posted some info above on how to make the All-Star Teams work. For me, the players are not greyed out; they change and are taken from the Championship. When I play Major League All-Star Team vs Minor League All-Star Team, everything works and the players from those competitions are selected. The common mistake everyone makes is scheduling the All-Star Cup at the beginning of a new season. Instead, the cup should take place AFTER the conclusion of the championships, when all the AWARDS have been given out, so that the competition can "call up" the best players within the teams, with the statistics still available. In short, the All-Stars tournament must be the last one played in the season. If you schedule it with the start of the new season, all the awards and player statistics are reset, and the algorithm doesn’t know what to pick! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 On 09/07/2024 at 11:41, Dygon said: What do you mean no one has resolved it? I posted some info above on how to make the All-Star Teams work. For me, the players are not greyed out; they change and are taken from the Championship. When I play Major League All-Star Team vs Minor League All-Star Team, everything works and the players from those competitions are selected. The common mistake everyone makes is scheduling the All-Star Cup at the beginning of a new season. Instead, the cup should take place AFTER the conclusion of the championships, when all the AWARDS have been given out, so that the competition can "call up" the best players within the teams, with the statistics still available. In short, the All-Stars tournament must be the last one played in the season. If you schedule it with the start of the new season, all the awards and player statistics are reset, and the algorithm doesn’t know what to pick! Then post your procedures with pictures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Blizzard Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) Following @Ilici Man's instructions and the file attached earlier in this thread, along with @Dygon's suggestions about re-purposing existing all star clubs/competitions (I used Thailand and Cambodia), I have mostly gotten this to work. I set up a 'Canadian All Stars's vs 'Global All Stars' match a week after the league final. Good performers (though perhaps not the best) are selected for each team. Anyone have suggestions for how to remove the all star team from the player's history? Edited July 13 by Toronto Blizzard added screenshots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) I think it's like that even with the MLS ASG isn't it? So the devs haven't figured it out either. That's cool, I wonder if having more awards like defensive player of the year, midfielder of the week, assist leader, Best XI (of the year and for each month), etc would help the game figure out the all-star team (league on full detail obviously) Edited July 14 by themodelcitizen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Blizzard Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Ah, right you are. The MLS All Stars game is listed in the history, too. That's a shame. UPDATE It looks like that 'all star' entry disappears from the player's history after the season update day! Edited July 16 by Toronto Blizzard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmpMarko Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 14/07/2024 at 00:05, Toronto Blizzard said: Following @Ilici Man's instructions and the file attached earlier in this thread, along with @Dygon's suggestions about re-purposing existing all star clubs/competitions (I used Thailand and Cambodia), I have mostly gotten this to work. I set up a 'Canadian All Stars's vs 'Global All Stars' match a week after the league final. Good performers (though perhaps not the best) are selected for each team. Anyone have suggestions for how to remove the all star team from the player's history? I wonder if someone can help me. It is a custom files about universities in Italy. There are two issues: 1. Even ticking add players or even ticking to use players and staff not real - nothing get created and all players "are grey" 2. I set up an all star match (CUS FINALI) at the end of the competition. For some reason players do not get picked up. I tried to simulate 5 years to see if with the teams filling with regen situation would change but nothing. I have used an all star competition and then for the 4 teams participating I modified 4 extinct all stars teams... Has anyone have any solutions about one or both issues? cus ita 2.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJMPx Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 On 23/09/2024 at 23:05, rmpMarko said: I wonder if someone can help me. It is a custom files about universities in Italy. There are two issues: 1. Even ticking add players or even ticking to use players and staff not real - nothing get created and all players "are grey" 2. I set up an all star match (CUS FINALI) at the end of the competition. For some reason players do not get picked up. I tried to simulate 5 years to see if with the teams filling with regen situation would change but nothing. I have used an all star competition and then for the 4 teams participating I modified 4 extinct all stars teams... Has anyone have any solutions about one or both issues? cus ita 2.fmf 378.91 kB · 0 downloads Havent looked at your file as im away from my FM laptop. Have you used 2 existing All Star teams or just created new clubs? The competition for All Star games isnt important, its the teams that have to be existing in the DB to work. Have a look at CSL North and South teams, i seem to recall those 2 working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmpMarko Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, oJMPx said: Havent looked at your file as im away from my FM laptop. Have you used 2 existing All Star teams or just created new clubs? The competition for All Star games isnt important, its the teams that have to be existing in the DB to work. Have a look at CSL North and South teams, i seem to recall those 2 working So mine has 4 teams. yes they are all stars teams and the competition is all stars too. I have worked on the file more and now on date 27th February they announce the teams. Only managers are picked and are the ones from the teams and players are still "grey" cus ita 2 - draft.fmf Edited September 25 by rmpMarko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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