Smallen Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 good to get the reality check in before the group games. Gareth knows what he’s doing. Its coming home. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Pleased with that. 72 hours or so when people weren’t relentlessly negative and I found it quite unsettling. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdBed Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Meh, the game is not going to be remembered much in three weeks time anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 22 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: He's been like that all season. It's maddening how his mistakes are overlooked. He's definitely dropped a level last 12-18 months, turned up in the big games but been generally poor for a while now. Beginning to think we should consider Trent at RB, I'm worried 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Three games left lads. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Bliss Seeker said: Yessss! The negativity is back Perfect. Just perfect. Was needed this. A 5-0 win tonight and we'd be penciling in that bank holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Be nice if an Iceland defeat could see off another manager 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Feel like you probably want to be playing Trent seeing as Walker is cooked at this level now? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 One shot on target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, arenaross said: Feel like you probably want to be playing Trent seeing as Walker is cooked at this level now? It weakens the defence a lot on paper, but if Walker isn't going to bother defending then why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Not entirely serious but would a new manager right now really be a negative for England Players looked like they hadn't trained together once, one shot on target The defence looks poor, yet going forward we look even worse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Can we still wheel Walker out for Mbappe though? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 It is definitely a concern that Iceland managed to both restrict our chances with a very well organised defensive display, but they also caused us problems on the rare occasions when they got into our half. Astute expectation management from Southgate. I hope Bellingham rests well, he has got his work cut out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) I don't know what we learned today. Trent and Saka the only real positives IMO Edited June 7 by Bootador Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Pleased with that. 72 hours or so when people weren’t relentlessly negative and I found it quite unsettling. Rob Jnr: Daddy, why have you got a big smile after that? Rob: OTF thinks Gareth’s a **** again, my faith in human nature is restored 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Bootador said: I don't know what we learned today. Trent the only real positive IMO Gordon looked decent, lost all threat on the left the moment he went off as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 We seem to have reached 2006 Sven where it's picking attacking players without structure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler42 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 We Icelanders were talking about how much England would trash us tonight since we had some important players missing, this was a pleasant surprise and gave the same warm memories of 2016, although it was just a friendly. Do keep in mind we have a population of just 400.000, that's 0.7% of England's population FYI 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 5 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: This isn’t all on Southgate. The players have been ***** Absolutely agree. Definitely some warranted criticism of Southgate but a lot of those performances were incredibly mediocre. But I would say that there'll be elements of self preservation and not wanting to get injured before the tournament. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Tyler42 said: We Icelanders were talking about how much England would trash us tonight since we had some important players missing, this was a pleasant surprise and gave the same warm memories of 2016, although it was just a friendly. Do keep in mind we have a population of just 400.000, that's 0.7% of England's population FYI your guys played really well! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 If we play as bad as this against Serbia then we got problems. But I'm not really gonna read too much into this game. Last WC we were proper bad going into it too, and then looked a better side once tournament started. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Southgate is such a mediocre manager, get him out 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 12 hours ago, Redshift said: Can anyone update me on the Coming Home status please? Early. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 It wouldn't be a tournament if we weren't called for Southgate's head on the eve of it. He's gone after this tournament anyone. Everyone chill out and enjoy the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, skybluedave said: It wouldn't be a tournament if we weren't called for Southgate's head on the eve of it. He's gone after this tournament anyone. Everyone chill out and enjoy the ride Trying to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, skybluedave said: It wouldn't be a tournament if we weren't called for Southgate's head on the eve of it. He's gone after this tournament anyone. Everyone chill out and enjoy the ride Exactly, just keep thinking, only three games of his reign left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just seen we lost to Iceland. Southgate Out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 3 minutes ago, aiston said: Trying to What you mean? You only pop up when we are playing bad or lose. You'd be miserable if we won 3-0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 15 minutes ago, skybluedave said: It wouldn't be a tournament if we weren't called for Southgate's head on the eve of it. He's gone after this tournament anyone. Everyone chill out and enjoy the ride Okay Rob junior 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 8 minutes ago, skybluedave said: What you mean? You only pop up when we are playing bad or lose. You'd be miserable if we won 3-0 Last time we played well was probably October, bit hard to pop up any other time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 19 minutes ago, skybluedave said: He's gone after this tournament anyone. Everyone chill out and enjoy the ride Thought that after the last one. Beginning to think he may actually stay forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Thought that after the last one. Beginning to think he may actually stay forever. He was close to leaving last time. I think because it was only 18 months till next tournament with busy qualifiers coming straight up and it being mid season so hard to find new manager, the FA pushed for him to stay on. But saying that, even though I'm Rob Jr apparently, I do think he should have moved on after the WC. I think 3 tournaments is enough. Just no idea who would be a good replacement or who was available January last year Edited June 7 by skybluedave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Think if Southgate was undecided on his future, those boos at FT will hopefully have cemented in his mind it’s time to leave this summer regardless how the tournament plays out. Fully expect a story on his future to come out over weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedwar Pump Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 As someone who’s followed England since the 80s, having a C.Palmer in the team gives me involuntary shudders. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Definite pattern here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 There's a glaring lack of international goals in this side (Kane aside) you know. In the preliminary squad Maguire was our third top international scorer with 7 (Saka second with 11). I know you can't judge those with a handful of caps like Palmer but still, compared to the likes of France who have Giroud, Griezmann and Mbappe all with 40 plus. Could this be a problem if Kane doesn't perform? Rashford has 17 btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 I guess the thing is we need Kane to perform full stop anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 It's probably why we could do with Foden turning up in an England shirt at some point soon. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 15 minutes ago, skybluedave said: It's probably why we could do with Foden turning up in an England shirt at some point soon. iirc we just need to play him centrally instead of out wide, and then he will dictate the game 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Wait...they actually lost to Iceland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 6 hours ago, Bootador said: It weakens the defence a lot on paper, but if Walker isn't going to bother defending then why not? Only for the casuals who judge defending by 1v1 and not by awareness and positional sense etc, which are far more important. Walker reminds me of Clyne playing for us years ago, an absolute dead end. Why bother moving from defence? Said it for ages, get him up against Mbappe and the runners and don't let him move from that position, and then have the midfield defend the cut inside. Other than that, literally play anybody else. On the other hand, Rice is so good. He never doesn't impress me. On another day Gordon gets a goal after some good play. He's really dangerous, and Palmer missed some chances unusually. Think England will be fine, tbh, can't see this being a reflection of their Euro campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 48 minutes ago, kopsy101 said: Only for the casuals who judge defending by 1v1 and not by awareness and positional sense etc, which are far more important. You think Trent’s strengths are defensive awareness and positional sense? I can get on board with Trent starting at RB but it certainly wouldn’t be for those reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 The worst thing about Southgate's England is reading comments from people who STILL CAN'T ****ING SPELL HARRY MAGUIRE'S NAME RIGHT! itsbeen84years.gif 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) As an outsider, this weird dick measuring contest between fans of some clubs is getting extremely tiresome... Edited June 8 by Constantine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Right there was definitely a post from X by @arenaross but It wouldn't load, refreshed the page and now its gone 🤷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 3 minutes ago, VP. said: Right there was definitely a post from X by @arenaross but It wouldn't load, refreshed the page and now its gone 🤷 Tweet got deleted so I hid it so that wouldn't happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, arenaross said: Tweet got deleted so I hid it so that wouldn't happen No worries thought I'd gone mad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Do shirt numbers mean anything? Maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 6 minutes ago, Bootador said: Do shirt numbers mean anything? Maybe? After last night, Gareth wants to make some changes in the lineup, but can't because of thr numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 I think international squad number DO mean something unlike club numbers, it's like your myspace top 8. Trent is in midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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