Games 31 and 32: Denmark vs Serbia live from the Fußball Arena München ITV4 8pm AND England vs Slovenia live from the Cologne Stadium ITV1 8pm

[oche balboa]

This 1st half has gone so slow 

[enigmatic]

Just now, Haguey said:

It's so annoying because the commitment is clearly there, just no quality and a hopeless striker

tbf I'd say the opposite. It's amazing how much better we look when Bellingham wakes up for a minute or someone realises that they can run past a not very good player who isn't marking them tightly than when the back line are passing to each other whilst the midfield conserves energy

[Pukey]

Just now, JJ72 said:

Zero chances in 30 minutes isn't bad? 

I didn't say it was good. It's just not as bad as what some people are making out. Clearly a lot of issues still but Denmark performance was definitely worse. A very low bar though  

Some are acting like this is 1/10 performance, more like a 3 or 4/10. So it's still crap.

[Haguey]

Just now, enigmatic said:

tbf I'd say the opposite. It's amazing how much better we look when Bellingham wakes up for a minute or someone realises that they can run past a not very good player who isn't marking them tightly than when the back line are passing to each other whilst the midfield conserves energy

Imagine how much energy reserves we're going to have in the knockouts!

[VP.]

Gallagher's awful touch ended up being a pass to Saka

 

[Coulthard's Jaw]

3 minutes ago, Darren Moores Mum said:

Wouldn't be shocked to find out Kane has been playing injured.

Getting borderline now whether he's still worth his place if he is injured, zero intensity

Edited Tuesday at 19:35 by Coulthard's Jaw

[WillHoward42]

Just now, Pukey said:

I didn't say it was good. It's just not as bad as what some people are making out. Clearly a lot of issues still but Denmark performance was definitely worse. A very low bar though  

Some are acting like this is 1/10 performance, more like a 3 or 4/10. So it's still crap.

It feels like a hangover/continuation of the Denmark game

[aiston]

Good from Trippier...no idea the **** Foden was crossing to.

 

[Rebs]

Gallagher has been just as crap as TAA was. This is bloody infuriating. 

[TalkSport]

Move the ball quicker, it's easy. But doesn't help when players are stood in terrible positions.

Slovenia so average.

[JJ72]

Just now, Pukey said:

I didn't say it was good. It's just not as bad as what some people are making out. Clearly a lot of issues still but Denmark performance was definitely worse. A very low bar though  

Some are acting like this is 1/10 performance, more like a 3 or 4/10. So it's still crap.

I'd argue after a 1/10 performance, you'd expect an improvement.  I'm yet to see one. Hence this is crap. Slovenia are probably worse than Denmark too

[Mr Adam]

It’s tournament football and we’re through and that’s all that matters, will be the schpiel, until we’re out 

[WillHoward42]

Gallagher, Bellingham off

Wharton, Gordon on

Lets try at least something different 

[Haguey]

Dunno how much England need a hold up player with so many great technicians in the front players, at least Watkins would have energy and pace

[Wavelberry]

Watching this game as God intended, through here and goal updates while the other half watches Downton

[CFuller]

It takes a special kind of manager to have so many great attacking talents and make them look like Santos-era Portugal.

At least Santos did sometimes break up the monotony with a bonkers 3-3 now and then.

[Weezer]

3 minutes ago, Darius1998 said:

Slovenia aren't getting the pass to Sesko right.

Feel sorry for Sesko, his teammates just don’t have the creativity to make the chances for him, most of the shots he’s had I. This tournament he’s had to take on himself.

Can we trade him for Kane at halftime?

[JJ72]

Germans are describing us as ambitionless. They're correct. Southgate is the most conservative manager with a team blessed with attacking talent. It's such a terrible combination

Edited Tuesday at 19:37 by JJ72

[WillHoward42]

1 minute ago, Mr Adam said:

It’s tournament football and we’re through and that’s all that matters, will be the schpiel, until we’re out 

We did what we needed to against a plucky all out Slovenia needing a win

[Mr Adam]

Just now, WillHoward42 said:

Gallagher, Bellingham off

Wharton, Gordon on

Lets try at least something different 

Ha no chance. Will be Bowen on for Saka and maybe Mainoo for Gallagher. But not until 63 mins.

[RTHerringbone]

Gordon and Wharton please. Shaw too if he's remotely fit.

[Rebs]

Needs major changes this, it just isn't working.

[EnterUsernameHere]

Bellingham going mad there

Love to see it.

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, Wavelberry said:

Watching this game as God intended, through here and goal updates while the other half watches Downton

You lucky bastard

[Smallen]

please, Jude, just play a position. We are not Real Madrid.

[GunmaN1905]

First pair of good wingers England faces will tear them a new one.

[Haguey]

I suppose the kindest thing you can say so far is that Slovenia have looked decent in their previous matches while they don't really look any good here, go England, rah rah, bring out the Yorkshire Tea and scones

[EnterUsernameHere]

Just now, Smallen said:

please, Jude, just play a position. We are not Real Madrid.

He was right to complain there tbf. No one was pressing with him.

[Anthrax Dave]

Gallagher off for Gordon, please.

Then have Rice holding, and push Foden/Bellingham both central to run beyond Kane.

[Darren Moores Mum]

4 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said:

Getting borderline now whether he's still worth his place if he is injured, zero intensity

Having no runner to go in behind him is making things worse.

[Robson 07]

Bellingham goes up alongside Kane to press.  And then more often it's Kane who is the one dropping back into midfield.  What's going on with that?  This shape is disfunctional. 

[aiston]

If only we had the quality of players Slovenia have, we'd be able to outplay teams.

[Weezer]

1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

Bellingham going mad there

Love to see it.

He’s part of the problem tbf. 

[arenaross]

These have got to be the worst group stage games I can remember? Just nothing positive and absolute mood killers.

[Bliss Seeker]

Jude moaning to the bench about how deep everyone is behind him 

[CFuller]

2 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

Bellingham going mad there

Love to see it.

I have this nagging feeling that Bellingham's tournament is ending with a red card.

So probably on Saturday, with a stamp on Toni Kroos. It's the England way.

[enigmatic]

3 minutes ago, Rebs said:

Gallagher has been just as crap as TAA was. This is bloody infuriating. 

think that's harsh on Trent tbf. At least he showed for the ball 

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Wow, Trippier remembered that he can cross!

[Darren Moores Mum]

Great ball in. Unlucky.

[JJ72]

Should've scored there Kane

[RTHerringbone]

Should have been a goal. The only situation where a right footed left back works.

[Weezer]

How’s Gallagher not got something on that?!

Edited Tuesday at 19:42 by Weezer

[Smallen]

1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

He was right to complain there tbf. No one was pressing with him.

agreed but generally we are carrying him defensively and we just can’t. Connor Gallagher is not Federico Valverde  

[VP.]

Right Gallagher is bordering on the worst player I've ever seen in an England shirt.

[Pukey]

It feels like back to the golden generation times where it was 11 individuals and just "we're better than then, so just win the game." 

[aiston]

What a ****ing ball in Trippier.

[Haguey]

Great ball, surely someone needs to connect there

[Bliss Seeker]

Took him 3 games, but Trippier finally put in a cross. Halle ****ing juah 

Edited Tuesday at 19:43 by Bliss Seeker

[EnterUsernameHere]

1 minute ago, Weezer said:

He’s part of the problem tbf. 

Maybe but I can understand his frustration, playing in this nonsensical system.

[Bootador]

Rice needs to show for the ball better, minor criticism but often he's caught hiding behind a blue shirt when he should be making himself available.

[JJ72]

Just now, VP. said:

Right Gallagher is bordering on the worst player I've ever seen in an England shirt.

That includes guys at the park wearing their shirts