georginho_juventusygr Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Should have taken Jack Grealish with the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Yeah get on TAA for Walker, we need creativity Would love Saka at or LWB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Mad that for the goal, They had time to float a ball in, have it go high in the air, take it down, take a touch and play a runner in without a single midfielder help out. Stones really didn't help himself though, Walker did his part in marking out wide and all Stones has to do is close down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Any lightning due? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Walker offering nothing at all, stick Trippier there and take advantage of his balls in....TAA to LB. Get Foden or Bellingham off for Gordon as well and maybe Kane off at half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: I'm switching off. I'm middle of house move that is going down to the wire. I'm super stressed about it. This is literally the LAST thing I want to sit through I'm having a bath, a kit kat and play some Cities Skyline Having just gone through a protracted stressful house move you have my sympathy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I'm sure Gareth will have a rousing half time speech up his sleeve. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 We don't seem to be creating anything while we have been in control the last 20 mins. All crosses. I don't know how you fix that, but if it's all crosses you might as well bring on Trent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 Neville is heads gone here 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 We've scored two goals all tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 It's ILLEGAL that Trent isn't playing. Neville's fully gone lol. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) Nev is spot on about TAA (in the context of this ***** served up by Gareth) Edited June 30 by aggressive minor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, georginho_juventusygr said: Should have taken Jack Grealish with the team. We don't need anymore sideways passers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Neville in tears 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lermon Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 gawd how long ago should England have got rid of Southgate. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Andrew_ said: Any lightning due? Unfortunately it's all in the South. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Neville is heads gone here "This is Manchester Uni... England." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 There's a law about playing TAA??? Jeez, when was that passed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, georginho_juventusygr said: Should have taken Jack Grealish with the team. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 30 Author Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, arenaross said: We've scored two goals all tournament. I can't remember two good chances we've created all tournament 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Bootador said: We don't seem to be creating anything while we have been in control the last 20 mins. All crosses. I don't know how you fix that, but if it's all crosses you might as well bring on Trent. That's been the case all tournament. We've created barely anything across 3 1/2 games. We've had possession as expected, but there's nothing to it. There's no runs in behind. There's no shape. There's no cutting passes. It's just ********* the ball into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, Smallen said: I dunno. Has Bellingham’s overall game actually gotten worse whilst at Madrid? He used to grab games like this by the scruff of the neck from midfield and drag us through games with sheer willpower. Barely looks arsed out there now. Well, he's had a season of really playing as a striker mostly, so the midfield element hasn't been needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, arenaross said: We've scored two goals all tournament. It's all that quality upfront that does it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 you can see why GNev made a terrible coach and manager. Full on heads gone. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I'd move Bellingham back to 8, he just can't play as a 10 from what I've seen. Much better him running from deeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Bootador said: Neville in tears I can already hear the same words from 2016 heading our way "we were outfought, we were outthought, etc" That was Shearer but still Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Southgate rejected Trent's Law and will suffer with his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson 07 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, aggressive minor said: Thing is when so many top class players aren’t play well..maybe it’s the system decided by the manager? He's playing cause of reputation and the fact he'll be composed if he ever gets a chance. But he won't get a chance if he drops deep, is the one crossing to tiny Saka or not making runs in behind. Had enough of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, aggressive minor said: Nev is spot on about TAA I will constantly bang the drum for him. Should be starting RB and it's a joke he never is. Just no threat on the right if you double up on Saka because Walker literally can't cross the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, SouthCoastRed said: Having just gone through a protracted stressful house move you have my sympathy I started the moving process 2 years ago! FO football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Bootador said: I'd move Bellingham back to 8, he just can't play as a 10 from what I've seen. Much better him running from deeper. Said it all tournament but he has too much freedom and nobody knows where he’s actually going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick87 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Reckon he lost the dressing room some time ago, they all have massive egos and want to play in a style that Southgate doesn't. They won't put in a real shift for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Smallen said: you can see why GNev made a terrible coach and manager. Full on heads gone. Hey, Warnock made a career out of headsgone screaming at his players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I don't think there was much of a point playing Walker in these games. Could have easily had TAA there to provide an actual outlet. It's not like Walker was lighting it up defensively this season either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedwar Pump Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I can see this being 2-0 FT rather then England coming back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 8 minutes ago, Smallen said: It’s not that bad. At least we’ve had most of the ball and an element of control despite not looking at all threatening. Italy were just getting completely dominated for 75 minutes. Austria would dominate us too playing like they did yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Mainoo a breath of fresh air because Southgate hasn’t had the time to drum the positivity out of him. Quick, get Palmer and Gordon on as well before Gareth get his laminated clipboard out and starts talking about slow tempo and rigidity 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Remember, Southgate didn’t have to get to this point. He could have changed the team immediately after seeing that it doesn’t work (game 1). He could have used the friendlies better when we lost over and over to Brazil and Iceland (again) FFS. No excuse. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigus89 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Watch no subs happen till 70 mins when he brings on Trent/Gallagher for Mainoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Rick87 said: Reckon he lost the dressing room some time ago, they all have massive egos and want to play in a style that Southgate doesn't. They won't put in a real shift for him. Wonder if the ditching of Sterling and Rashford has stung the players a bit, both central parts of the team until recently. Would be pathetic is that is why they can't be arsed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Get us Ray's opinion in 2024. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 6 minutes ago, darren1983 said: You'd still have some change afterwards Even though allegiances lie elsewhere even I find myself getting irritated watching these players. They're all so much better than this, and whilst it is somewhat funny, it is also a shame that a talented team goes to waste. So if I've got grievances with them, lord knows how those two are feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Haguey said: The masses of fans and wannabe expert football analysts you see online and on here are very rarely in the right when it comes to squad selection and tactics and so on, but well, I'd take what they're saying over what Southgate is offering right now True, although tbh if you added all their opinions up to pick the team this is probably the starting lineup we'd end up with. Still remember how popular not calling up the Rashford or Sterling the side's been crying out for since the first time a side with slow centre backs decided they could step up and let the midfield press was. (Haha, I wrote this before I saw your comment) Edited June 30 by enigmatic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Come on Gareth, throw some paper cups at them! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Darren Moores Mum said: That's been the case all tournament. We've created barely anything across 3 1/2 games. We've had possession as expected, but there's nothing to it. There's no runs in behind. There's no shape. There's no cutting passes. It's just ********* the ball into the box. England are basically us in League One under Moore. No tactics, no attacking structure, no pace or running off the ball, boring and predictable. Hopefully we’ll also copy Moore-ball by being all of those things but forcing a win over a team way worse than us because we simply have better individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 The problem is clear we have left out Joenaldo Gomez all tourny and its caught up with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, Bliss Seeker said: Come on Gareth, throw some paper cups at them! "England lose 4-0." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, arenaross said: Remember, Southgate didn’t have to get to this point. He could have changed the team immediately after seeing that it doesn’t work (game 1). He could have used the friendlies better when we lost over and over to Brazil and Iceland (again) FFS. No excuse. We played well for 25 minutes then just stopped, why didn't we just continue with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Haguey said: Hey, Warnock made a career out of headsgone screaming at his players Warnock is actually likeable though in his own way. He can pull it off. GNev should just go back to dragon’s den the daft **** Edited June 30 by Smallen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson 07 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Craigus89 said: Watch no subs happen till 70 mins when he brings on Trent/Gallagher for Mainoo The thought of seeing Gallagher's pony tail trotting on to the pitch in a white shirt is massively triggering for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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