EnterUsernameHere Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Absolutely insane to go with 3 at the back and not pick Trent. This man doesn't know ball. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Switzerland were brilliant for 90 minutes against Italy. We came within 86 seconds of losing to Slovakia. Switzerland have shared the goals around this tournament. England have been overly reliant on a frustrated (and frustrating) Harry Kane and a petulant (and increasingly arrogant) Jude Bellingham. Murat Yakin has a clear plan that has worked consistently well at this tournament, and he knows what his best team is. Gareth Southgate don't have a plan, and has waited until the Quarter Finals to switch to an unfamiliar tactic, rather than trying it in our final group game against Slovenia. Switzerland have a healthy mix of youth and experience. England don't have any match-fit left-backs. So yeah... I'm very pessimistic about today. I'm predicting Switzerland to win a boring match 1-0, Gareth to be in the job centre on Monday morning, and Graham Potter to be England manager by the end of the month. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) Am I the only one that actually thinks that's fine and might work? Edited July 6 by arenaross 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Can’t be any worse than what we’ve been doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eenie Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Rob1981 said: Ladies and gentlemen, England will be playing three ****ing four two one or something. Until they score, at which point it'll revert to 5-4-1-0 with four defensive midfielders and Kane as the lone CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 Just now, arenaross said: Am I the one that actually thinks that's fine and might work? I agree but also you had us down as playing the beautiful game at the start of the tournament so... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just now, Coulthard's Jaw said: I agree but also you had us down as playing the beautiful game at the start of the tournament so... I did. I really thought Gareth had learned his lessons going into this tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Trippier’s perfectly capable of playing as a right wing-back. He likes to hug the line and get forward wherever possible. I still would probably have went with TAA, but I don’t think it’s as huge a blunder as people are making out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, arenaross said: Am I the one that actually thinks that's fine and might work? It can't be much worse than the previous system. It can't, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I think people are overthinking a little about Switzerland. They seemed to struggle a lot more in the second halves of games and if England are still level at the break, I think there is every chance they will start dropping deeper. Gone with England to win this, either off a deflected goal or on pens. Then again, I did think this about Switzerland in Euro 2020 and then they beat France on pens back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 Just now, dafuge said: It can't be much worse than the previous system. It can't, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Had a dream we win 4-1 and foden gets 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 6 Administrators Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Bigwig said: Trippier’s perfectly capable of playing as a right wing-back. He likes to hug the line and get forward wherever possible. I still would probably have went with TAA, but I don’t think it’s as huge a blunder as people are making out. TAA is just streets ahead offensively though, think that's the issue I and others have. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On paper: Switzerland has a better goalkeeper. Switzerland has a better back three because they actually played together before and aren't that far off individually. Switzerland's midfield duo has been great together and fits their roles way more than Rice-Mainoo. Wingbacks aren't amazing individually, but actually play the role. I've never seen Saka play on the left, let alone as a wing-back. Trippier has no legs to go up and down all game long. England's front three is scary and has to win the game for them. As a weekly 3 man defense watcher, I'm eager to see how England's back three and two midfielders looks in build-up. I expect nothing but shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 you know it could just be the exact same system as previous with Konsa in for Guehi this, right? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 6 Administrators Share Posted July 6 Foden: "Let's see if it works". Reassuring 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just now, Smallen said: you know it could just be the exact same system as previous with Konsa in for Guehi this, right? It'll be that. In pub with England supporting mates and the deflation at that line up is real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 We've been testing this out since Wednesday. Nothing can go wrong - that's three whole days of practising 6-0. Kane with four, one each for Bellingham and Foden. Total festival of football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 9 minutes ago, arenaross said: Am I the only one that actually thinks that's fine and might work? Nope, I'm happy with that but I know nothing about international football 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 6 Administrators Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Smallen said: you know it could just be the exact same system as previous with Konsa in for Guehi this, right? Could be, Foden is saying we will match them and he is in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just now, sc91 said: It'll be that. In pub with England supporting mates and the deflation at that line up is real. I'm in Croatia. Absolutely nee idea what's going on. Wanna meet up so that I can tell you who the best team in the land is @GunmaN1905? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Smallen said: I'm in Croatia. Absolutely nee idea what's going on. Wanna meet up so that I can tell you who the best team in the land is @GunmaN1905? You make it sound like the country is the size of Luxembourg. Have a nice time and don't get ripped off too much. Edited July 6 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Saying that like Croatia is a small country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 6 Administrators Share Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, Lucas said: Foden: "Let's see if it works". Reassuring Just to add to this, wonder if Foden doesn't really rate Gareth much. There was obvious frustration from Jude as well in the last game with other players and tactics. I guess we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Is it not just Konsa in for Guehi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Think England will win in 90 mins but with a similar performance level to what we've seen. Don't feel the formation change will alter much in that regard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Southgate with a smirk "well let's see what the formation is first" - love it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 22 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Absolutely insane to go with 3 at the back and not pick Trent. This man doesn't know ball. 'Zero ball knowledge' as the kids say 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Rio, Micah and Frank as pundits? ****ing hell. TV off till KO then 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, m_fenton said: Southgate with a smirk "well let's see what the formation is first" - love it. the leak to the press a few days ago that we're playing a back 3 could easily be ****-housing couldn't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I have a good feeling, team looks far better balanced but obviously the players still need to play. No excuses now, Southgate's taken 99% of the stick and rightly so but the players have to start to perform now too. 3-0 England, football continues its journey home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Foden and Trippier still starts. Only change is Konsa whos only in because Guehi's suspended. Yea England's losing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, m_fenton said: Southgate with a smirk "well let's see what the formation is first" - love it. Dear god he doesn't even know himself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just now, Smallen said: the leak to the press a few days ago that we're playing a back 3 could easily be ****-housing couldn't it Would be pretty stupid to have wasted training sessions with a back 3 in that case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 People are overrating Switzerland, we looked much better than Italy in qualifying until we **** the bed once in the lead. Italy are awful. Don't get me wrong, we have a very real chance of being beaten but that's from crap management. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Would be pretty stupid to have wasted training sessions with a back 3 in that case? No it wouldn't if it's another option depending on game state Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceefax the cat Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) Literally just had a dream in which England had chosen a crazily rotated XI. Bigirimana (!?) was playing in the hole and I was squinting to see what all the other exciting, unfamiliar player names were. And then I woke up Edited July 6 by ceefax the cat 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) So 3-4-2-1, or 4-3-3 and same again. Edited July 6 by TalkSport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceefax the cat Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I'm thinking defend in a 4-2-3-1, attack in a 3-2-5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ceefax the cat said: Literally woke up from a dream in which England had chosen a crazily rotated XI. Bigirimana (!?) was playing in the hole and I was squinting to see what all the other exciting, unfamiliar player names were. And then I woke up A 30 year old Burundian in the hole is probably wildest dream Southgate's ever been involved in. Edited July 6 by SteveUK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, ceefax the cat said: Literally woke up from a dream in which England had chosen a crazily rotated XI. Bigirimana (!?) was playing in the hole and I was squinting to see what all the other exciting, unfamiliar player names were. And then I woke up Saido Berahino up front as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 10 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Would be pretty stupid to have wasted training sessions with a back 3 in that case? You realise the press are only allowed to watch the first five minutes of training sessions, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Rob1981 said: You realise the press are only allowed to watch the first five minutes of training sessions, right? I do now. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 6 Administrators Share Posted July 6 14 minutes ago, darren1983 said: Rio, Micah and Frank as pundits? ****ing hell. TV off till KO then Rio and Frank I can’t stand. Micah has grown on me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Roger Federer's free to wear sunscreen. I guess the alternative was Stan Wawrinka covering the Duffman theme tune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceefax the cat Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Not liking these clips from Swiss v Italy. They played pretty bloody well didn't they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 We generally had one really good performance at least in previous knockouts, Sweden in 2018, Germany/Ukraine 2020, Senegal 2022 so I think naively that will be the case tonight. Switzerland deserved to beat Italy but they also drew with Scotland and weren't that impressive against Hungary either despite the win. Let's go with 3-1, Kane, Foden and er, Watkins late on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 2 minutes ago, Lucas said: Rio and Frank I can’t stand. Micah has grown on me. A loveable idiot but still an idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) Be a laugh if it's just the same formation as before with just Konsa replacig Guehi. Edited July 6 by Wavelberry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 2 minutes ago, darren1983 said: A loveable idiot but still an idiot Micah, or yourself? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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