Semi Final 2: Netherlands vs England live from the BVB Stadion Dortmund. Wednesday ITV1 8pm

[kopsy101]

Just now, GunmaN1905 said:

There's no momentum from Dumfries' foot towards Kane's who shoots and just keeps naturally extending it. He kicked Dumfries and got a penalty.

If that's a penalty, then strikers should keep extending their motion after every shot.

It is a foul IMO, but enough to overturn? No.

[Haguey]

Oh my WORD what skill from Foden Palmer could never

[DJ]

Dumfries, legend!

[Nordan]

The Dutch are not defending.

[Weezer]

Haven’t seen a replay yet but surely Foden could have hit that earlier?

[PaulHartman71]

Never a pen for me. Not complaining though  

[martynlcfc]

Acres of space between Dutch defence and midfield 

[metal_guitarist]

Foden you prat, just had to pass that into the far corner

[GunmaN1905]

Just now, kopsy101 said:

It is a foul IMO, but enough to overturn? No.

For me it's who initiates the contact and who hits who.

Penalties like these are a dangerous precedent.

[georginho_juventusygr]

What the hell. Where is the advantage, Felix?

[Freakiie]

Just now, Haguey said:

Oh my WORD what skill from Foden Palmer could never

Yeah, but Palmer would actually score.

[m_fenton]

CAN WE GET A FLIPPING REPLAY?!

[Pukey]

1 minute ago, DJ said:

I'm glad you accept a refereeing present gracefully, but as you see even half the English fans here say it wasn't a pen  

Thinking it's not a penalty is fine. I don't think VAR should have got involved. But immediately accusing the ref of being "bent" is worthy of being joked about, especially given you've complained about loads of decisions

[Ackter]

Where's this turn and run urgency come from all of a sudden?

 

[Haguey]

1 minute ago, Freakiie said:

Yeah, but Palmer would actually score.

Doubt it, wasn't a penalty

[PaulHartman71]

2 minutes ago, Ackter said:

Dumfries stuck his foot up and Kane kicked it.

Dumfries didn't dive in with a tackle or anything. It was a block.

Not sure what Dumfries is meant to do other than just letting Kane shoot unopposed. Perfectly entitled to go for it. 

[eenie]

Just now, Pukey said:

Thinking it's not a penalty is fine. I don't think VAR should have got involved. But immediately accusing the ref of being "bent" is worthy of being joked about, especially given you've complained about loads of decisions

tbf this ref does actually have form  

[Redshift]

Someone stuck a cattle prod in Foden.

[darren1983]

That was more of a foul than the penalty  

[Haguey]

BENT REF AGAIN

[DJ]

Just now, Pukey said:

Thinking it's not a penalty is fine. I don't think VAR should have got involved. But immediately accusing the ref of being "bent" is worthy of being joked about, especially given you've complained about loads of decisions

Look a few posts up, someone said BENT REF, I reacted to that  

[Darren Moores Mum]

Thought that was much further over the line than it was.

[Heartwork]

This is why we sent our star players to Germany, so we could learn their ways.

[m_fenton]

Just now, PaulHartman71 said:

Not sure what Dumfries is meant to do other than just letting Kane shoot unopposed. Perfectly entitled to go for it. 

He can block by putting a foot between the ball and goal, or go for the ball in a safer way than studs first, perhaps?

[Ackter]

Just now, Darren Moores Mum said:

Thought that was much further over the line than it was.

BENT FOOTBALL.

[davehanson]

1 minute ago, PaulHartman71 said:

Not sure what Dumfries is meant to do other than just letting Kane shoot unopposed. Perfectly entitled to go for it. 

Entitled to go for it. Not entitled to be studs up and kick another player 

[Smallen]

2 clear fouls from Dumfries not given there. Bizarre stuff.

[Orzelek]

1 minute ago, Pukey said:

Thinking it's not a penalty is fine. I don't think VAR should have got involved. But immediately accusing the ref of being "bent" is worthy of being joked about, especially given you've complained about loads of decisions

 

With Zwayer's history in mind, there's nothing strange in accusing him of being "bent".

 

I really don't understand how he's allowed to referee at this level.

[Haguey]

Should have let that stand too as payback for the ghost goal of 2010 

[kopsy101]

1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said:

For me it's who initiates the contact and who hits who.

Penalties like these are a dangerous precedent.

Disagreed, you can't penalise somebody for the natural act of following through a shot. The onus is on the defender to avoid it, IMO.

[Ackter]

Just now, m_fenton said:

He can block by putting a foot between the ball and goal, or go for the ball in a safer way than studs first, perhaps?

The studs werent even pointing at Kane dude. He;s not a ballerina. 

[Pukey]

1 minute ago, Darren Moores Mum said:

Thought that was much further over the line than it was.

I thought it was in, think about an 8th of the ball was over if that  I love goalline technology so much

[Ackter]

Just now, kopsy101 said:

Disagreed, you can't penalise somebody for the natural act of following through a shot. The onus is on the defender to avoid it, IMO.

You don't penalise either of them.

[outlander]

How is it not a penalty on Malen? Was much more contact than with Kane.

 

[eenie]

Just now, kopsy101 said:

Disagreed, you can't penalise somebody for the natural act of following through a shot. The onus is on the defender to avoid it, IMO.

Not getting a penalty for kicking someone blocking a shot isn't getting penalised though?

[m_fenton]

1 minute ago, Ackter said:

The studs werent even pointing at Kane dude. He;s not a ballerina. 

I think you're just upset we've got an exciting match involving England 

[Mr Adam]

I miss Clive Tyldsley

[Darius1998]

Great game so far.

[GunmaN1905]

Well, Dumfries is certainly the protagonist here.

[TM]

Just now, Ackter said:

You don't penalise either of them.

maybe the guy on VAR wanted a decent game?

goals in the first half = decent game from most analysis of this tournament

[Selwink]

Memphis not taking corners and immediate chance

[JD nawrat]

Just now, Ackter said:

You don't penalise either of them.

Especially considering that Kane's shot was totally unaffected by the "foul". His shot was already halfway towards the goal at the contact  

[DJ]

Dumfries sure is the most notable man of the match so far

[davehanson]

2 minutes ago, Ackter said:

The studs werent even pointing at Kane dude. He;s not a ballerina. 

The studs hit him on the top of the foot. How were they not pointing at him?😂

[Ackter]

Just now, m_fenton said:

I think you're just upset we've got an exciting match involving England 

No this is a great match so far, but sticking your foot up to try and bock a shot and then getting kicked on the heel is not a penalty ffs

[Ackter]

Just now, davehanson said:

The studs hit him on the top of the foot. How were they not pointing at him?😂

His foot was at about a 45 degree angle, as it natural for someone sticking their foot out.

Then Kane kicked him up the footbum.

[m_fenton]

Just now, JD nawrat said:

Especially considering that Kane's shot was totally unaffected by the "foul". His shot was already halfway towards the goal at the contact  

Was it, or did he rush it a bit because of someone lunging studs first towards him?

[eenie]

Just now, davehanson said:

The studs hit him on the top of the foot. How were they not pointing at him?😂

If I kick you in the face, was your face pointing at my foot throughout?  

[Redshift]

Ooooooooooooooooffffffffffff

[Rick87]

F*****