CalumF Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just out of interest. Could it be a stand alone game? I watch the odd game here and there, but I wont be playing it on Football Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali184 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ajw10 Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 Might as well make a thread for the Swedish league, or the Scottish 2nd Division. I get it's the big new feature, but this feels like another thread for loads of angry weird men to be furious that women are entering THEIR GAME 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim_Less Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 No interest what so ever 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Absolutely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometdude Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Nope, but then again FM has loads and loads of leagues that I won't play. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I was looking forward to it. But taking out International Football management makes me inclined to pass on FM25 despite the freshness of adding the women's game. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Yes, especially if it has the Welsh leagues/someone creates them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Yes, I'm really looking forward to it and it'll be my first save. I've been to about a dozen Tottenham Women's games now and playing as us on FM it'll be really good to get to know the rest of the league better 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 No. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Nah. Nothing against it being in there, but much Like the MSL/Welsh leagues/Norway Etc, I have no interest in it, nor to I know enough about the players. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat_Frank8 Posted September 11 Popular Post Share Posted September 11 14 hours ago, ajw10 said: Might as well make a thread for the Swedish league, or the Scottish 2nd Division. I get it's the big new feature, but this feels like another thread for loads of angry weird men to be furious that women are entering THEIR GAME The only one angered by the thread so far seems to be you, telling us how angry everyone else is. Just like in the other thread 😂 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosantos Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 16 hours ago, ajw10 said: Might as well make a thread for the Swedish league, or the Scottish 2nd Division. I get it's the big new feature, but this feels like another thread for loads of angry weird men to be furious that women are entering THEIR GAME The Scottish Championship is easily the best league in the World though, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Yes! Extra 400K for Champions League isn't bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedaytona Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Yes, I will definitely give it a go. If England 3rd tier is a playable league, it will probably be very soon after release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller1980 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) Nothing against it and I don't mind the inclusion for FM25..... but zero interest in women's football from me. Edited September 11 by Weller1980 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 hours ago, Fat_Frank8 said: The only one angered by the thread so far seems to be you, telling us how angry everyone else is. Just like in the other thread 😂 bit worried if you think this is angry and not the people that have threatened to boycott the game because of it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrig Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) Yes. For one thing, I'll be playing FM, and since men's and women's football will be integrated in the game, to play one will be to play the other. Also, Man United have been pretty rubbish lately, but our women's team have been on the up. I do take a slight interest in them when I can, and they lost some big players recently, so that could make for an interesting save. Edit: on second thought, probably shouldn't be blindly assuming I'll play FM this year, so "maybe" might be the better answer. Edited September 11 by vrig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyo666 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 No....I like playing the game with players i know,maybe ignorance on my part but i do not know much on Women's football...Zero interest.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 When I started the thread I thought the percentage would be higher for No to be fair. But a good 45% say you will. That says to me that the women's game is right to be included in the game and is definitely merited. Like a few have said, I have nothing wrong with the inclusion but I wont be playing it myself. The only issue for me is the date of release getting put back to the end of November. If the women's leagues were to be removed and added at a later date because of the difficulties with the new match engine, would most prefer that so the game was released back to its original early November release? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Probably not, but the person I do my network saves mentioned it so it's a possibility. I do believe the knock on effects it will have on the game, expanding the ME to accommodate this will in turn have benefits further down the line as well as prompting a look at some things which perhaps have remained unchecked in many years (player weights being an example) because it had just kind of worked the way it was beforehand. 5 minutes ago, CalumF said: The only issue for me is the date of release getting put back to the end of November. If the women's leagues were to be removed and added at a later date because of the difficulties with the new match engine, would most prefer that so the game was released back to its original early November release? Women's football and the impact on the ME were not the reason for the delay. Rather switching the game as a whole over to Unity is the reason. In my mind it seems quite logical to think that perhaps women's football will have been one of the furthest along aspects for FM25 given it has only ever been in development during the time the studio planned to switch to Unity. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 not even curious about women's side of FM... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 9 minutes ago, santy001 said: Probably not, but the person I do my network saves mentioned it so it's a possibility. I do believe the knock on effects it will have on the game, expanding the ME to accommodate this will in turn have benefits further down the line as well as prompting a look at some things which perhaps have remained unchecked in many years (player weights being an example) because it had just kind of worked the way it was beforehand. Women's football and the impact on the ME were not the reason for the delay. Rather switching the game as a whole over to Unity is the reason. In my mind it seems quite logical to think that perhaps women's football will have been one of the furthest along aspects for FM25 given it has only ever been in development during the time the studio planned to switch to Unity. Even then, the delay has gone from early November to late November. Its a few weeks not several months. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 28 minutes ago, dannyo666 said: No....I like playing the game with players i know, Same here, for me football is something magical, something sentimental, all the legends, emotions they generated, it is waiting for big matches, watching Ronaldinho become a football god, watching Messi or CR make historical statistics. I don't associate women's football with anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I'll be playing it for sure. Shame Earps wont be at United anymore though... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 10 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Even then, the delay has gone from early November to late November. Its a few weeks not several months. At the moment its only a few weeks. That might still change. Its also a time when games like Call of Duty and others are getting released. Sales might drop because of it. The later it comes out will eat into the sales. On a personal note, I play the game from release till around April/May time and the summer weather and getting out means I stop playing around then and then get exited about the new game coming out around this time. Shorter game span this year for me. Streamlining the game with no international football and touchline shouts are fine with me. If leaving out the women's football meant the game was released at the start of November instead of late November, yes please, I would be fine with that also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, CalumF said: At the moment its only a few weeks. That might still change. Its also a time when games like Call of Duty and others are getting released. Sales might drop because of it. The later it comes out will eat into the sales. On a personal note, I play the game from release till around April/May time and the summer weather and getting out means I stop playing around then and then get exited about the new game coming out around this time. Shorter game span this year for me. Streamlining the game with no international football and touchline shouts are fine with me. If leaving out the women's football meant the game was released at the start of November instead of late November, yes please, I would be fine with that also. Womens football isnt the reason for the delay, Unity is. COD and FM are entirely different markets of game. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 15 minutes ago, armbi said: Same here, for me football is something magical, something sentimental, all the legends, emotions they generated, it is waiting for big matches, watching Ronaldinho become a football god, watching Messi or CR make historical statistics. I don't associate women's football with anything. A very large number of FM players got to know real life players by playing FM. That will continue and be expanded by including both genders. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrig Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 24 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: I'll be playing it for sure. Shame Earps wont be at United anymore though... Completely forgot about that. In my head it was a year ago and we'd just lost Russo.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, vrig said: Completely forgot about that. In my head it was a year ago and we'd just lost Russo.. I'm still not over losing Russo... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Frank8 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, ajw10 said: bit worried if you think this is angry and not the people that have threatened to boycott the game because of it. I don’t think that’s something you need to worry about. Just pointing out that the only mention of anger or dislike was the post I quoted and that was in the opposite direction. Haven’t seen any of the posts you’re referring to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I wonder if the people who won't play the women's leagues currently play in leagues they don't follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fat_Frank8 said: I don’t think that’s something you need to worry about. Just pointing out that the only mention of anger or dislike was the post I quoted and that was in the opposite direction. Haven’t seen any of the posts you’re referring to. Barely had to look to see the first tantrum. Quote Spoiler 3 hours ago, Birdman10piyu said: Of course, you can't say anything about women's football or people lose it. It's not that people put women's football down. It's more so, we just don't care about it, you can't argue that. Barely anyone cares about women's Football. How often do you hear "ohh ya did you see the Women's Man City yesterday??? What a game!!!!" Probably never. No one is bashing it and it's such an after thought that we don't even consider it. Does that mean Im putting the league down? To top it off. The narrative we're all reading.. "We cut NT management and added Women's Football" so of course people are annoyed.. "oh and we removed the weight attribute to accommodate the women. " So now, we have to play by their rules? We had this series and enjoyed it for decades and now that we're including women "we don't want our weight shown..." Fk off. It doesn't seem like much but what's going to come next??? "FM26 new feature!!! We've added pronouns and 10 different genders to choose from" wow now I can roleplay as Xer Josephina Mourhino get this woke sh*t away from FM. Edited September 11 by ajw10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieTC13 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Not at first but could do down the line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Frank8 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, ajw10 said: Barely had to look to see the first tantrum. Firstly that quote’s from another thread so you already failed there. Secondly all I see is he’s annoyed they dropped international management, they cut the weight and that he doesn’t care about women football and whether it’s in the game or not. You were supposed to quote someone from this thread who was angry that women football is in the game. You managed to quote someone from another thread who’s annoyed international management is gone and doesn’t care about women football. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Frank8 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 minutes ago, Malicious Penguin said: I wonder if the people who won't play the women's leagues currently play in leagues they don't follow. I do on occasion. Can’t we do that either without hating women? 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Fat_Frank8 said: Firstly that quote’s from another thread so you already failed there. Secondly all I see is he’s annoyed they dropped international management, they cut the weight and that he doesn’t care about women football and whether it’s in the game or not. You were supposed to quote someone from this thread who was angry that women football is in the game. You managed to quote someone from another thread who’s annoyed international management is gone and doesn’t care about women football. what is this He literally called it "woke ****". The entire post is him crying about women's football. If you cannot show basic reading comprehension then there really is little point of this. Enjoy continuing supporting misogynistic behaviours. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Frank8 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, ajw10 said: what is this He literally called it "woke ****". The entire post is him crying about women's football. If you cannot show basic reading comprehension then there really is little point of this. Enjoy continuing supporting misogynistic behaviours. The ”woke sh*t” was obviously about the weight being removed so i don’t think you should be questioning someone elses reading comprehension. 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, Fat_Frank8 said: The ”woke sh*t” was obviously about the weight being removed so i don’t think you should be questioning someone elses reading comprehension. 😁 yep, that's why he put it after talking about pronouns and gender. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, ajw10 said: what is this He literally called it "woke ****". The entire post is him crying about women's football. If you cannot show basic reading comprehension then there really is little point of this. Enjoy continuing supporting misogynistic behaviours. He was literally kicked out the thread and picked up a infraction for being misogynistic and transphobic, and by a member of SI, not even a mod, thats how badly that went down. Anyone looking to replicate that posting style isnt going to last very long around here. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: He was literally kicked out the thread and picked up a infraction for being misogynistic and transphobic, and by member of SI, not even a mod, thats how badly that went down. Anyone looking to replicate that posting style isnt going to last very long around here. I'm afraid it was all about weight! SI are wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diLLa88 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Nope. Have no connection with it as it doesn't interest me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Most definitely yes and will likely be my first save on FM25. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I have no clue about women football. I might check it since i know absolutely nothing about the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystique Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) I haven't voted as it's a meaningless and absurd question to ask in the first place. I haven't decided whether to buy FM25 yet, but if I do buy it, I will definitely play a women's league, get to know the players, the rules etc. Edited September 11 by Mystique clarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright 747 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 No thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 No issues with its inclusion, but no interest in playing the women's game 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speck Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I doubt I would play it either, but I'm sure for some it will be their main method of playing. SI probably shouldn't have tried to include it at the same time as all the other changes, since it does give people an easy excuse to point at a reason for the delay (or poor initial release if that happens). I'm actually curious if the selection/inclusion of women's leagues will be mandatory when selecting a country. I've seen some people say that it definitely won't be mandatory, but it wouldn't shock me too much if it is. It would create a lot of complaints (some justified) if they do include them, so hopefully it's not mandatory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I don't personally have a single iota of interest in women's football IRL, but I've also spent many hours of my life managing in every single league available in Vanilla FM and many more not available where I don't even know a single player...so yeah I'll give a women's save a go at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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