no one ever comes for my striker, cant make any money from 1G/game strikers

[thebreadlady]

my history of strikers - 

 

• hidden game, elite striker (even according to media description), signed from lower division brazil for 60k who i thought i would sell for MEGA money in a couple seasons - 

before you say anything about it being in the polish league, we were making deep UCL runs every season. 

 

• another elite striker. ended up forcing him out for peanuts cause i wanted a different type of striker to spice up my save - 

 

• used this striker for 2 seasons before i left the club -

 

• go even further back in my save with my 2x UCL winning striker

          

 

• current striker - 

         

 

+ many more retired strikers with 1 goal a game every season in my +50 years save. not once have i sold one of these strikers for mega money cause no team EVER bids(unless i transfer list in which case i get lowballed). what gives? every time i wanna try something new i have to force my striker out for peanuts. 

 

only times ive received offers is if i have a wonderkid striker, regardless if hes even a starter. same goes for other positions. theres a strong correlation of the AI hunting for wonderkids and ignoring HIGH avg rating HIGH performing players. 

high performing players, regardless of their attributes, should be highly sought after just like in IRL. 

[trevjim]

1 hour ago, thebreadlady said:

my history of strikers - 

 

• hidden game, elite striker (even according to media description), signed from lower division brazil for 60k who i thought i would sell for MEGA money in a couple seasons - 

before you say anything about it being in the polish league, we were making deep UCL runs every season. 

 

• another elite striker. ended up forcing him out for peanuts cause i wanted a different type of striker to spice up my save - 

 

• used this striker for 2 seasons before i left the club -

 

• go even further back in my save with my 2x UCL winning striker

          

 

• current striker - 

         

 

+ many more retired strikers with 1 goal a game every season in my +50 years save. not once have i sold one of these strikers for mega money cause no team EVER bids(unless i transfer list in which case i get lowballed). what gives? every time i wanna try something new i have to force my striker out for peanuts. 

 

only times ive received offers is if i have a wonderkid striker, regardless if hes even a starter. same goes for other positions. theres a strong correlation of the AI hunting for wonderkids and ignoring HIGH avg rating HIGH performing players. 

high performing players, regardless of their attributes, should be highly sought after just like in IRL. 

This is unfortunately a side effect of the reputation system.

There will be a reputation X CA/PA X form algorithm that determines what players AI bid for. 

 

Unfortunately it fails sometimes and where logic in real life would suggest that a bigger club would at least take a punt on your strikers, this doesn't transfer over to the game.

 

This is one of the long standing AI issues that are hopefully addressed with the rebuild for 25

[thebreadlady]

7 hours ago, trevjim said:

This is unfortunately a side effect of the reputation system.

There will be a reputation X CA/PA X form algorithm that determines what players AI bid for. 

 

Unfortunately it fails sometimes and where logic in real life would suggest that a bigger club would at least take a punt on your strikers, this doesn't transfer over to the game.

 

This is one of the long standing AI issues that are hopefully addressed with the rebuild for 25

thats such a dumb way to program transfers, it even 'blocks' players to be called up to the national and play instead of worse players. 

 

how do i even increase a player's rep? 4 back to back league wins (top 4 leagues in EU) with my striker as the top scorer and his rep isnt high enough to entice big transfers? what a broken system. 

[trevjim]

2 hours ago, thebreadlady said:

thats such a dumb way to program transfers, it even 'blocks' players to be called up to the national and play instead of worse players. 

 

how do i even increase a player's rep? 4 back to back league wins (top 4 leagues in EU) with my striker as the top scorer and his rep isnt high enough to entice big transfers? what a broken system. 

It is broken and sadly one of the few neglected core aspects since FM 11 when they decided to go in a different direction and focus on stuff like press conferences and social media etc, instead of focusing on the core gameplay sim

[shirajzl]

It's a known issue in FM and has been untouched for years. AI teams base their transfer offers on player reputation and CA/PA, not the actual performance.

[Novem9]

8 часов назад, shirajzl сказал:

It's a known issue in FM and has been untouched for years. AI teams base their transfer offers on player reputation and CA/PA, not the actual performance.

Also players market is becoming very overheated after a few saves. As a result, it is difficult to sell even a quality player, because clubs spend huge amounts of money on wages and have no transfer budget. And there is no place for a newcomer either. It is a kind of road collapse in the transfer equivalent.

[santy001]

On 30/09/2024 at 05:18, Novem9 said:

Also players market is becoming very overheated after a few saves. As a result, it is difficult to sell even a quality player, because clubs spend huge amounts of money on wages and have no transfer budget. And there is no place for a newcomer either. It is a kind of road collapse in the transfer equivalent.

This aspect can be mitigated through game setup. It's tricky but if there are too many clubs at the level below the top clubs then they tend to bid lower. Go too far the other way and the big clubs can bid a lot for players, clearly more than they're worth. 

[Novem9]

14 минут назад, santy001 сказал:

This aspect can be mitigated through game setup. It's tricky but if there are too many clubs at the level below the top clubs then they tend to bid lower. Go too far the other way and the big clubs can bid a lot for players, clearly more than they're worth.

It makes sense. I play with adding players by reputation for entire continents (Europe, South Africa) and a number of countries (Asia, Africa, North America). That's why I have a large number of newgens even in unplayable leagues.

[eXistenZ]

4 hours ago, santy001 said:

This aspect can be mitigated through game setup. It's tricky but if there are too many clubs at the level below the top clubs then they tend to bid lower. Go too far the other way and the big clubs can bid a lot for players, clearly more than they're worth. 

And this should be information that is mentioned when we're setting up a game, not we have to find by digging through the forums. The setup tutorial/tips are another thing that is horribly outdated and in need of a change

[thebreadlady]

nothing about the transfer mechanics in this game makes sense. its THE dumbest part of FM. 

we've won La Liga 5 seasons in a row with the top scorer by a large margin, assist provider by a large margin, most clean sheets, and yet i cant get ANY top teams interested in my players without transfer listing because of some dumb player rep mechanic and/or they dont have the PA of a wonderkid. only teams interested are mid table clubs and its pointless for them to bid because A) they low ball, B) even if they low ball and i accept the offer my player wont downgrade to a mid table club. 

 

5 hours ago, santy001 said:

This aspect can be mitigated through game setup. It's tricky but if there are too many clubs at the level below the top clubs then they tend to bid lower. Go too far the other way and the big clubs can bid a lot for players, clearly more than they're worth. 

this is just nonsense unless youve found the perfect balance somehow because no matter how many leagues i load in my save, it changes nothing. 

through so so many saves with different amount of leagues loaded in the past 5-6 iterations of FM, i have yet to receive big bids on HIGH performing NON WONDERKID LEVEL PA players. only times i get big bids are on elite PA level wonderkids. 

[XaW]

1 hour ago, thebreadlady said:

i have yet to receive big bids on HIGH performing NON WONDERKID LEVEL PA players

Depends on what you mean by BIG bids. I posted this a while back where I got 4-5 times the "value" of a player I really didn't rate.

I even posted a follow up with this, as he was clearly not good enough for West Ham and they eventually released him without giving him a single game.

So yes, you can get bids over the value of the player, even for non wonderkid players.

I usually player lower leagues so I don't have much to offer about BIG bids at the top tier level clubs, but this is my best example of getting more for your players than they are worth.

[turnip]

Yeah, I had Man Utd give me £65m up front for a young DR who was playing well but was clearly never going to be Premier League standard. 

He maybe played 20 games for them over the duration of a 5-year contract - bear in mind they dropped that much for him because they were desperate for a DR, but still didn't play him regularly that season - and left on a free afterwards. 

[thebreadlady]

13 hours ago, XaW said:

Depends on what you mean by BIG bids. I posted this a while back where I got 4-5 times the "value" of a player I really didn't rate.

I even posted a follow up with this, as he was clearly not good enough for West Ham and they eventually released him without giving him a single game.

So yes, you can get bids over the value of the player, even for non wonderkid players.

I usually player lower leagues so I don't have much to offer about BIG bids at the top tier level clubs, but this is my best example of getting more for your players than they are worth.

i just straight up NEVER get good bids, i dont know what to say. everytime i want a different type of striker i have to FORCE my current striker out for peanuts even though hes scoring 1 goal per game. season just ended and my current striker has no interests in him, let me know what i should do now.

heres another example, my gk- 

not even a single interested club over the past 4 seasons. 

 

 

look at my transfer out. i dont get any bids and only sell 1 or 2 players by listing them - 

then look at the value of my first team 

[XaW]

3 minutes ago, thebreadlady said:

i just straight up NEVER get good bids, i dont know what to say. everytime i want a different type of striker i have to FORCE my current striker out for peanuts even though hes scoring 1 goal per game. season just ended and my current striker has no interests in him, let me know what i should do now.

heres another example, my gk- 

not even a single interested club over the past 4 seasons. 

 

 

look at my transfer out. i dont get any bids and only sell 1 or 2 players by listing them - 

then look at the value of my first team 

Can you upload your save somewhere? I can take a look and see if I spot anything. If you can't then here are a few tips.

1. Your goalkeeper is obviously one of the best in the world with that value, so what teams are likely to bid at least that kind of money for him? How many goalkeepers go for more than £50m? Very few, so the possible clubs are few.

2. The few clubs you have identified. Do anyone of them look like they need a new goalkeeper? Are their first choice old and the 2nd choice far worse? How many possible clubs are you left with?

3. Are there any comparably skilled goalkeepers about? What is the value there? If you were to sell, could you replace him with a equally good, but cheaper option to make money on it? If so, why don't the other clubs go for that player?

4. What are other goalkeepers sold for? Is the value this high because your team are doing great and winning stuff? Perhaps other clubs don't value him that high?

5. Would he be likely to want to leave your club? Do have you given him too much money so other teams would struggle to give him more? Or have you him as a key player or important player, if so, would he have the same for the other possible buyers?

These are just a few things I thought could possibly explain to you why no one are willing to buy that guy, as an example. If the market is filled with equally talented players with lower price, then you won't get what you want. Looking a bit deeper into those things can show you why you are not getting high bids for players, as there needs to be an identified need, and also no better options.

[thebreadlady]

6 hours ago, XaW said:

Can you upload your save somewhere? I can take a look and see if I spot anything. If you can't then here are a few tips.

1. Your goalkeeper is obviously one of the best in the world with that value, so what teams are likely to bid at least that kind of money for him? How many goalkeepers go for more than £50m? Very few, so the possible clubs are few.

2. The few clubs you have identified. Do anyone of them look like they need a new goalkeeper? Are their first choice old and the 2nd choice far worse? How many possible clubs are you left with?

3. Are there any comparably skilled goalkeepers about? What is the value there? If you were to sell, could you replace him with a equally good, but cheaper option to make money on it? If so, why don't the other clubs go for that player?

4. What are other goalkeepers sold for? Is the value this high because your team are doing great and winning stuff? Perhaps other clubs don't value him that high?

5. Would he be likely to want to leave your club? Do have you given him too much money so other teams would struggle to give him more? Or have you him as a key player or important player, if so, would he have the same for the other possible buyers?

These are just a few things I thought could possibly explain to you why no one are willing to buy that guy, as an example. If the market is filled with equally talented players with lower price, then you won't get what you want. Looking a bit deeper into those things can show you why you are not getting high bids for players, as there needs to be an identified need, and also no better options.

1. my GK is nowhere near one of the best in the world. you can even see by his attributes. i never really care about my GKs as long as they have 14 handling, one on ones, positioning and not too bad reflexes, agility, aerial reach, anticipation. bought him for 11M

 

the actual best GKs are worth more than triple in my save such as - 

 

 

2. you misread i think, what clubs have i identified?

NO ONE ever is interested in my GKs in any of my FM saves last 4-5 iterations. i cant even get clubs to be interested in my 1G/game strikers

 

3. sure there are probably even better options out there for cheaper now since his value keeps increasing, thats the case with most players in the world because thats how i get my players, but thats besides the point. its about performance, performance doesnt correlate with interest in this game. i dont think it even has anything to do with interest judging by my saves. ive sold 20 year old wonderkids that go on to become top 10 for mega money even though theyve played like trash all season. 

 

4. i dont know how much they go for. my GK's value has only been progressing last few seasons cause we're winning. (rhetorical question) why are the clubs not valuing him the high? 46 clean sheets out of 62 games this season and no one is interested in any of my defenders and gk. 

yes im over performing with the players i have so im getting punished because the AI's valuation doesnt match their actual performance but matches their CA/PA thus i dont get any bids or interests. 

 

5. i give my players way less compared to similar level clubs. i like to play with a spend what you make rule, every season has to turn a profit regardless of competition prize money. my RB is asking for 15M/year now, a 10M jump, while the highest paid player earns 7 and im just waiting for a bid let alone a good bid to come (which will never come by the looks of it) to sell him since i want to keep my salary cap at 5M/year. 

Real Madrid spend 223M on wages

real sociedad 180m

barca 131m

atleti 70m

sevilla 70m

we spend 80m

only players im willing to pay over the wage cap by a couple million are ones im looking to turn a quick profit on but sadly NO ONE BIDS!!!!!!

this is my 7M/year mez scoring +15 a season in the league, +20 overall and no one wants him

its now getting to the point where all my players want +5M/year salary whereas ideally i wouldve liked to move 2-3 high performing key players every summer to give myself an opportunity to change things up tactically to keep things fresh and keep salaries low but im stuck with the same players so now its time to say goodbye to valencia and start anew. 

 

ran through the summer window quickly just to see bids. rejected everyone who asked for a new contract, half my squad is unhappy. here are the only bids - 

mid table tottenham with a NON NEGOTIABLE 33M bid for my vice-DM whos valued at 30-33M. rejected the bid and they havent been back. 

porto with a 72M bid for my 100M valued midfielder, i ask for 100 and they ran away, completely dropped interest. 

 

6 hours ago, XaW said:

If the market is filled with equally talented players with lower price, then you won't get what you want. 

at some point performance has to override this. you can always make the argument that theres an equal player that can be had for cheaper but thats not how things work IRL. IRL cheaper striker X scores 10 goals with avg rating 6.5 while striker Y, equally as good IF you can see their attributes, scores 25 goals with 7.8 rating in the same league. which guy do you think is more sought after? even with good scouts, top teams wont risk it on the cheaper striker X cause he dropped a 6.5 avg rating season. top teams will go for the "proven" 25 goals 7.8 rating guy. 

 

 

[turnip]

In the case of your goalkeeper, presumably teams are looking at him, realising he's not that good (as you said yourself) and they'd have to pay £50m+ and well over £100k p/w to sign him. Other than Man Utd IRL, I'm not sure who'd do that. The list of teams with those kind of resources isn't a long one and their scouts are probably looking at much better goalkeepers. 

 

More generally, without knowing exactly how your database is set up, it's hard to know exactly what the issue is. Normally, this problem happens when you only have a couple of leagues Playable - when this happens, the only teams in other leagues who get kind of a 'full' transfer experience are those in Continental competitions, which is a small list. And the teams in Europe who can afford your players is a smaller list, and they have a wide range of players they could sign and if there's a better deal out there, maybe they'll go for that one. 

(Teams in leagues that are View-Only do buy players, but they seem to do so less often. And teams in leagues that aren't even View-Only buy less often than that; sometimes not at all depending on how the database has been set up)

 

But I'm leaning towards that you're simply paying your players too much. Which is fine if you want to keep the player, but if you'd rather move him on then either let his contract run out, or sell him with a year left if you want to get some money for him. 

[samrnpage]

you need to have a sizeable number of leagues loaded - I 2nd that. I use to play with sub 10 leagues loaded and noticed the same thing in a long term save . Now I trade speed in processing and load a lot more leagues to make it more realistic

[thebreadlady]

7 hours ago, turnip said:

In the case of your goalkeeper, presumably teams are looking at him, realising he's not that good (as you said yourself) and they'd have to pay £50m+ and well over £100k p/w to sign him. Other than Man Utd IRL, I'm not sure who'd do that. The list of teams with those kind of resources isn't a long one and their scouts are probably looking at much better goalkeepers. 

but +50M is his current valuation after multiple seasons with the most clean sheets in the league. he started off around 15M, where were the interest in the previous season? what about the outfield players since its harder to move GKs anyways? 

take my DM for example, there are very few quality deep lying playmaker who can also defend in my save, he drops +7.0 avg rating every season yet no ones interested. as a test just now in july, i offer him at his value yet no team is interested. i transfer list offer him at his value still no interest. i transfer list offer him at half his value and i only get 1 non negotiable bid from an AUSTRIAN club at even less than half his value, even if i accept this bid theres no way he accepts the move. offer him out without specifying how much i want, i get offers from 3 midtables sides at a whopping 11M! im just stuck between a rock and a hard place after a few season at every club i go to, cant sell players organically. 

anyways its back to the point of realism, if my players arent "good enough" for the valuation according to the AI then maybe i shouldnt have been "allowed" to overperform by this big of a margin. artem dovbyk - had 1 good season in one of the big leagues at girona, scoring 24 in 39 games, and interest in him shoots up. gets sold for 38M meanwhile i dont have a single club interested in my striker who has scored 43 in 55 first season, 43 in 50 second season. my guy's value hasnt even shot up yet, its still just 30M. 

7 hours ago, turnip said:

More generally, without knowing exactly how your database is set up, it's hard to know exactly what the issue is. Normally, this problem happens when you only have a couple of leagues Playable - when this happens, the only teams in other leagues who get kind of a 'full' transfer experience are those in Continental competitions, which is a small list. And the teams in Europe who can afford your players is a smaller list, and they have a wide range of players they could sign and if there's a better deal out there, maybe they'll go for that one. 

(Teams in leagues that are View-Only do buy players, but they seem to do so less often. And teams in leagues that aren't even View-Only buy less often than that; sometimes not at all depending on how the database has been set up)

how should it be set up? ive had saves with 20 leagues loaded and saves with just 8 leagues loaded, doesnt make a difference. 

 

7 hours ago, turnip said:

But I'm leaning towards that you're simply paying your players too much. Which is fine if you want to keep the player, but if you'd rather move him on then either let his contract run out, or sell him with a year left if you want to get some money for him. 

i already mentioned above i dont pay my players nearly enough. you try running a save where your objective is to be a self sustainable club and make a profit every year regardless of prize money and transfer profits. what i do at every club is minus your season expenditure (excluding wages and transfers) from your total season income(excluding transfers and here you can have a little wiggle room of including prize money if you were to finish realistically), the amount youre left with is what you can use for your yearly wages. tell me if you can overpay your players playing the game this way. again, i already mentioned im only spending 80M a year on wages.  

Real Madrid spend 223M on wages

real sociedad 180m

barca 131m

atleti 70m

sevilla 70m

my LW is the lowest paid player amongst players with similar attributes - 

you add a few other attributes to the search and list gets even shorter - 

same with my other star players

[Etebaer]

There is an "icreased realism" mod out that has a monthly release and the creator (Daveincid) worsk tirelessly to improve or at least to mitigate the issue.

 

I am unable at this moment in time to give hint how well he did it bcs i start in a low league and as every month a new update comes and a short while ago it was released i started again at the very bottom and usually i odnt take shortcuts so it takes me a long while to arrive in the top tier and i am not there yet.

But he changes moneyspending, transferbehavior, the whole reputation thing up to things like weather and much much more (gives out even a little performance increase on top) - i guess its worth a try!

[KingCanary]

On 01/10/2024 at 16:07, thebreadlady said:

nothing about the transfer mechanics in this game makes sense. its THE dumbest part of FM. 

we've won La Liga 5 seasons in a row with the top scorer by a large margin, assist provider by a large margin, most clean sheets, and yet i cant get ANY top teams interested in my players without transfer listing because of some dumb player rep mechanic and/or they dont have the PA of a wonderkid. only teams interested are mid table clubs and its pointless for them to bid because A) they low ball, B) even if they low ball and i accept the offer my player wont downgrade to a mid table club. 

 

this is just nonsense unless youve found the perfect balance somehow because no matter how many leagues i load in my save, it changes nothing. 

through so so many saves with different amount of leagues loaded in the past 5-6 iterations of FM, i have yet to receive big bids on HIGH performing NON WONDERKID LEVEL PA players. only times i get big bids are on elite PA level wonderkids. 

I recently won the league with West Ham and had Emile Smith Rowe (important player in my squad, highly rated) being linked with Brighton (a team who had just won the Championship).

I flagged this before because I've noticed it in multiple saves- you can be winning the league, regularly in the knockout stages of the Champions League and still have to deal with media questions about lower mid-table teams being interested in signing my top scorer or best central defender. Luckily the mechanic works enough that the player doesn't then want to leave but it is still such a weird, immersion breaking bug. It would be like Ipswich right now telling the press they are looking to sign Ollie Watkins or Jacob Ramsey from Villa and not being laughed out of the building.

[eXistenZ]

1 hour ago, Etebaer said:

There is an "icreased realism" mod out that has a monthly release and the creator (Daveincid) worsk tirelessly to improve or at least to mitigate the issue.

 

I am unable at this moment in time to give hint how well he did it bcs i start in a low league and as every month a new update comes and a short while ago it was released i started again at the very bottom and usually i odnt take shortcuts so it takes me a long while to arrive in the top tier and i am not there yet.

But he changes moneyspending, transferbehavior, the whole reputation thing up to things like weather and much much more (gives out even a little performance increase on top) - i guess its worth a try!

Im using this one as well in my second save and I definitly have a lot more offers coming in.

Comparison is however difficult as I had largely the same problem as OP on FM23 with a vanarama-PL save where clubs didnt come in at all for my overperforming players. I cant make a direct comparison, because as @XaW correctly pointed out, the type of database/extra players you load in seems to make a big difference (although it shouldnt d in this extreme, and it definitly should be explained more ingame). in my current save I just went for leagues, no extra players, while in that FM23 save I had loaded in an extra bunch.

 

However there are many other variables (different league, different level, different reputation, FM23 vs FM24)  that might also have a part so its impossible to say how much of it is database setup and how much is the mod

[Jonthedon26]

3 hours ago, KingCanary said:

I recently won the league with West Ham and had Emile Smith Rowe (important player in my squad, highly rated) being linked with Brighton (a team who had just won the Championship).

I flagged this before because I've noticed it in multiple saves- you can be winning the league, regularly in the knockout stages of the Champions League and still have to deal with media questions about lower mid-table teams being interested in signing my top scorer or best central defender. Luckily the mechanic works enough that the player doesn't then want to leave but it is still such a weird, immersion breaking bug. It would be like Ipswich right now telling the press they are looking to sign Ollie Watkins or Jacob Ramsey from Villa and not being laughed out of the building.

I had Reinier at Birmingham City and we were in the January window in about my 5th season. We were pushing for Europe about 5th at the time, and Southampton who were top of the championship at the time came in for him and he was livid I wouldn't accept their bid. He was one of my important players but only had 18 months left on his deal so in the end I decided to sell him and managed to get £70mil from a championship side for him. But the whole logic that he was desperate to go to a championship team was baffling to me. 

[thebreadlady]

added every european league + chinese league + brazil argentina league, made a save point after the season ended, and tried selling players during the summer on multiple reloads with no luck. even tried forcing as many of my players unhappy as i can. 

so yea gonna take a loooooooong break from this game because there is no point when you cant make profits off players. theres just no logic behind it the transfer system. 

[thebreadlady]

worst offender is my +40G, +7.5 avg rating La Liga Striker receiving 0 interest, let alone offers when i transfer list him for a grand total of ZERO. (1.5M/year 3 years left). 

IN WHAT WORLD IS LA LIGA'S TOP GOAL SCORER NOT WORTH A PENNY?! 

[KingCanary]

6 minutes ago, thebreadlady said:

added every european league + chinese league + brazil argentina league, made a save point after the season ended, and tried selling players during the summer on multiple reloads with no luck. even tried forcing as many of my players unhappy as i can. 

so yea gonna take a loooooooong break from this game because there is no point when you cant make profits off players. theres just no logic behind it the transfer system. 

There is a logic to it, just a somewhat weird, gamey system. 

The flip side of the issue is that I can sometimes make great profits on players who aren't actually very good for me because they've got a high CA/PA. I've signed players who were considered wonderkids that didn't kick on yet I've been able to sell them for three or four times what I signed them for.

[thebreadlady]

34 minutes ago, KingCanary said:

There is a logic to it, just a somewhat weird, gamey system. 

The flip side of the issue is that I can sometimes make great profits on players who aren't actually very good for me because they've got a high CA/PA. I've signed players who were considered wonderkids that didn't kick on yet I've been able to sell them for three or four times what I signed them for.

whatever the logic is, its dumb, its not realistic at all. 

[lex311085]

On 29/09/2024 at 10:19, trevjim said:

This is unfortunately a side effect of the reputation system.

There will be a reputation X CA/PA X form algorithm that determines what players AI bid for. 

 

Unfortunately it fails sometimes and where logic in real life would suggest that a bigger club would at least take a punt on your strikers, this doesn't transfer over to the game.

 

This is one of the long standing AI issues that are hopefully addressed with the rebuild for 25

I don't even think form gets taken into consideration to be honest, I think its just reputation and Current ability that dictates how AI bids for players. 

[lex311085]

On 03/10/2024 at 12:29, Jonthedon26 said:

I had Reinier at Birmingham City and we were in the January window in about my 5th season. We were pushing for Europe about 5th at the time, and Southampton who were top of the championship at the time came in for him and he was livid I wouldn't accept their bid. He was one of my important players but only had 18 months left on his deal so in the end I decided to sell him and managed to get £70mil from a championship side for him. But the whole logic that he was desperate to go to a championship team was baffling to me. 

Probably cos Birmingham had a lower rep than Southampton at the time. The reputation system isnt dynamic enough, how long did it take you to get into Europe with birmingham?

[Jonthedon26]

19 hours ago, lex311085 said:

Probably cos Birmingham had a lower rep than Southampton at the time. The reputation system isnt dynamic enough, how long did it take you to get into Europe with birmingham?

Yes I think that was the problem. I got into Europe that season, my 5th in game. I had 2 seasons in the championship then 2 in the Premier League before I got into Europe. I think Southampton got relegated in season 2, promoted back in season 3, then relegated again in season 4 and were top of the championship at the time in season 5.