FM20 - Removing attribute numbers

[Shrewnaldo]

Hi All,

Recently I've been reading about a number of save games where the player has edited the skin to remove the attribute numbers and either replace them with coloured bars or even simply removed them altogether.  Planning ahead to FM20, I'd like to do something similar but, not having the slightest scoob about skinning or graphics in general, wanted to check if this is possible.

What I'd like to have is a skin with the following features:

• dark skin (like the default dark on FM19)
• no numerical reference to attribute values anywhere
• On the player profile screen, I'd like to have the numbers replaced either by a bar or large dot which would change colour depending on the attribute value.  Ideally set such that I can vary the colours and the ranges in the way you can in the Preferences for default skins
• Remove attributes' numerical values from the player search and scouting screens, replacing them with the bars or dots as described above
• Remove attributes' numerical values from the training performance screen but retain the up and down arrows to indicate progression or regression
• On the player comparison screen, the attributes tab to show a bar only with no numerical value showing the difference between the two.  The bar would be coloured to the same ranges as third bullet above
• On the squad screen, either remove attributes from the views or have them represented by the coloured dot as described above

I appreciate that the game isn't out yet and so no-one will know specifics regarding the panels etc but the screenshots available so far confirmed my layman's assumption that not much will change between games.

Therefore, I'm at this point simply trying to understand if this sort of thing is possible or if I should just forget about it?  Any ideas?

 

For anyone interested - I've had some really helpful feedback in this twitter thread linking to this page - 

 

 

(and in case anyone is wondering why, I want to force myself to be less reliant on very specific attributes and use the other tools like scouting and stats more than I ever have)

Edited September 22, 2019 by Shrewnaldo

[Haiku]

I removed attributes on FM18. Changed to bars, changed the colors within preferences so that they match skin background color and voila. I don't know how to replace them with dots, but surely a bit of skinning will make it work.

[wkdsoul]

Made him a skin for this already.

[Shrewnaldo]

Thanks Haiku, but as @wkdsoul says, he messaged me on twitter and has come up trumps with an FM19 version which has pretty much exactly what I was looking for 

[toffee71]

Am just about ready to boot up, and want to try the graphical_attribute_view.xml, can't remember where it goes, anybody remember?

[toffee71]

I've managed to find it, it's all on theresonlyoneball don't want to link it as not sure on that policy.

Edit. The method the worked on 19 doesn't seem to work on 20

Edited October 31, 2019 by toffee71

[Wozzie]

On 31/10/2019 at 18:28, toffee71 said:

I've managed to find it, it's all on theresonlyoneball don't want to link it as not sure on that policy.

Edit. The method the worked on 19 doesn't seem to work on 20

Keep in mind, that player attributes panel.xml has changed - part of code with bars has been removed.

[Nicenoise]

Hi @wkdsoul Can you please help me with removing literally every attribute from fm20 dark skin. (From reports, player panels, flow windows etc)

Every help will be so much appreciated!

[wkdsoul]

41 minutes ago, Nicenoise said:

Hi @wkdsoul Can you please help me with removing literally every attribute from fm20 dark skin. (From reports, player panels, flow windows etc)

Every help will be so much appreciated!

inc staff? 

[Nicenoise]

6 hours ago, wkdsoul said:

inc staff? 

No, only players;

IMO staff quality is harder to understand without numbers 

may be bars for staff, but i think I’m asking too much 

Edited November 20, 2019 by Nicenoise

[wkdsoul]

7 hours ago, Nicenoise said:

No, only players;

IMO staff quality is harder to understand without numbers 

may be bars for staff, but i think I’m asking too much 

bars cant be done.  as for no attributes, use the shrewnaldo one and pick the same colour for all the skin atrribute settings done. 

[_Ben_]

@wkdsoul - is it possible for you to upload/link me to a download of this skin that works on the full game without the issue on match day please.

Thanks

Edited November 20, 2019 by _Ben_

[Nicenoise]

2 hours ago, wkdsoul said:

bars cant be done.  as for no attributes, use the shrewnaldo one and pick the same colour for all the skin atrribute settings done. 

Can you please explain a bit more, i'm absolute zero in skining

[Nicenoise]

Oh, got it, it's in the game settings!

TY!

[PandaBearGrylls]

Em 06/10/2019 em 12:29, Shrewnaldo disse:

Thanks Haiku, but as @wkdsoul says, he messaged me on twitter and has come up trumps with an FM19 version which has pretty much exactly what I was looking for 

Hi, could you share the skin?

[PandaBearGrylls]

3 horas atrás, wkdsoul disse:

Shrewnaldo Skin.rar 65 kB · 8 downloads

This skin is for FM20 right?

[Nicenoise]

Hi again @wkdsoul

Don't you know about the problem with the pictch in 3d when using this skin? No match at all, just green panel full screen

 

[Mars_Blackmon]

On 04/11/2019 at 02:42, Wozzie said:

Keep in mind, that player attributes panel.xml has changed - part of code with bars has been removed.

any way to fix this?

[wkdsoul]

3 minutes ago, Mars_Blackmon said:

any way to fix this?

No.

[Cydver]

Hello there, I apologize if I should have created my own topic for this question, but I wasn't particularly certain. I'm customizing my TCS skin, and tried borrowing @wkdsoul's attribute panel from here, winding up with this result:

 

But what I would like is to have the colored boxes with no numbers. I am no expert in skinning or coding, so I'm not sure how this might be possible, if at all. Could anyone please help with this?

 

Thank you!

[Cydver]

21 hours ago, Cydver said:

Hello there, I apologize if I should have created my own topic for this question, but I wasn't particularly certain. I'm customizing my TCS skin, and tried borrowing @wkdsoul's attribute panel from here, winding up with this result:

 

But what I would like is to have the colored boxes with no numbers. I am no expert in skinning or coding, so I'm not sure how this might be possible, if at all. Could anyone please help with this?

 

Thank you!

 Nevermind, I've figured it out!

[_Ben_]

On 31/12/2019 at 02:50, Cydver said:

 Nevermind, I've figured it out!

Please can you share this! I'm enjoying the basic 'Shrewnaldo' skin but want the pro's and con's on the page too, like TCS has. I've then got to work out how to get the 'Shrew' font back in and maybe 1 pt smaller across the board, to alleviate the zooming gap between 50% and 85% that I currently play on - but that skin would be a great start please.

[Mars_Blackmon]

is there a way to hide the numbers on the player comparison page?

[BlueScreen]

Is it possible to have this available for FM19?

[wkdsoul]

6 hours ago, BlueScreen said:

Is it possible to have this available for FM19?

Files should be fine, just drop everything but the skin_config and client_object browswer folders into the FM19 base skin

[Teadlane]

Hi, is it still possible to get these panels or skins? Would love to try a save like this but the download links don't work anymore, at least for me.

Thanks in advance :).

[wkdsoul]

5 minutes ago, Teadlane said:

Hi, is it still possible to get these panels or skins? Would love to try a save like this but the download links don't work anymore, at least for me.

Thanks in advance :).

https://fmwkdsoul.wordpress.com/

[Teadlane]

33 minutes ago, wkdsoul said:

https://fmwkdsoul.wordpress.com/

Thanks very much :). 

[syemo]

Downloaded the shrewnaldo skin, everything looks fine until i play a match and get a black screen any ideas?

[wkdsoul]

17 minutes ago, syemo said:

Downloaded the shrewnaldo skin, everything looks fine until i play a match and get a black screen any ideas?

from the link to my page or one of the older versions above? 

you'll neeed the latest one, and clear cache etc on install.

[syemo]

ah it might of been an older one ill redo it, cheers

[wkdsoul]

15 minutes ago, syemo said:

ah it might of been an older one ill redo it, cheers

cheers, i;ve removed the old linkss from the thread. 

[Adamski152]

Apologies if it's been answered elsewhere but could anyone tell me how you replace the attribute numbers with colours on a different skin? I'd like to just take that and add it to my current skin.

 

Thanks

[wkdsoul]

Depends on the skin and how much the maker has customised.  the player panels and fonts should uysually be enough for the default.

[adamskii152]

It’s the TCS skin. Doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as many files in the panels folder but just not sure how to go about it. Tried copying in all the files from this skin to that but didn’t work. 

[wkdsoul]

2 minutes ago, adamskii152 said:

It’s the TCS skin. Doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as many files in the panels folder but just not sure how to go about it. Tried copying in all the files from this skin to that but didn’t work. 

open any file in the players folder with attribute in it and add                 <record id="widget_info" class="attribute_label" alignment="right,centre_y" size="0" style="semi_bold" multiline="false"/>  to the line

[adamskii152]

Is there specific place the line of code needs added? I searched every file and if it had the word attribute in it I added that line of code to the end just before </panel> but it still hasn’t worked. 

[wkdsoul]

4 hours ago, adamskii152 said:

Is there specific place the line of code needs added? I searched every file and if it had the word attribute in it I added that line of code to the end just before </panel> but it still hasn’t worked. 

try that.

player attributes panel.xml

[Adamski152]

Hi - do I just drop that one into the panels folder like below? Do I delete or do anything to any of the others?

Thanks for your help!

[wkdsoul]

1 minute ago, Adamski152 said:

Hi - do I just drop that one into the panels folder like below? Do I delete or do anything to any of the others?

Thanks for your help!

yeah ,jut take a copy of the old one, try the new one. 

[adamskii152]

Nah - not working. Strange one!

No idea what I’m doing so I’ll just stick with this skin. 

cheers for the help!

[TCSSkin]

25 minutes ago, adamskii152 said:

Nah - not working. Strange one!

No idea what I’m doing so I’ll just stick with this skin. 

cheers for the help!

have you renamed the file you downloaded?

[Adamski152]

Yeah, I moved the existing file and replaced it with the one above, renamed it and reloaded the skin. This is what happened.

  

[Guest]

13 hours ago, wkdsoul said:

yeah ,jut take a copy of the old one, try the new one. 

Thanks for doing this Gaz, much appreciated and has added a whole new challenge to my game which makes the game more immersive.  I actually just took your advice and replaced the fonts and player panel on the Heffem skin with your one from the Shrewnaldo skin and it works great. One thing I am getting on both your Shrewnaldo skin and the Heffem skin is this below. One second the view is set up perfectly for me the next I go right back to it and it has changed to this. As I say it's happening on your skin too, am I doing something wrong ? Cheers again !!!!

 

[wkdsoul]

attributes look fine, what am i looking at.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, wkdsoul said:

attributes look fine, what am i looking at.

This bit here, if you look at the 2nd pic on my initial post both those screenshots were taken seconds apart. It's not an issue anymore though as it seems to have resolved itself.

[wkdsoul]

They are selector boxes, you can set  them to any setting,. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, wkdsoul said:

They are selector boxes, you can set  them to any setting,. 

I am not explaining myself well here, sorry. The selector box I have circled was how I wanted it, however when I clicked another menu then came back to the exact same player a few mins later that other pic is what greeted me with all the selector boxes set to "plans" Anyway it's all working now. 

 

[Mars_Blackmon]

On 21/04/2020 at 01:41, Adamski152 said:

Yeah, I moved the existing file and replaced it with the one above, renamed it and reloaded the skin. This is what happened.

  

Same thing happening to me. Anyone know how to fix?

[\'Appy \'Ammer]

Thanks for the new way of playing. Adds another challenge and dimension.

Where can I find the files to remove these attributes on these screens? :

 

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2020 by \'Appy \'Ammer