themadsheep2001 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Spent the last few weeks railing against how he sets us up, and then he goes and writes that. And you know he means every word of it. What a guy. And agree about the feel good. Win lose or draw, just make us feel good, make us believe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 We're now at the stage where our England players have only watched highlights of Gazza 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Twelve of the squad born after Euro 96 Two of them born while Sven was in charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Twelve of the squad born after Euro 96 Two of them born while Sven was in charge One of them can't legally drink until the Q/Fs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 We aren't many years away from calling someone up that was born in the Steve McClaren era. Yikes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Rob1981 said: Tears in my eyes reading that. wp Gareth. When you read stuff like that, and you see the way he speaks, it's so easy to see why the players love him 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, skybluedave said: That moment when Dier stepped up and everybody was thinking 'what? is there nobody else' That's all I want from England, just give me a nice moment. You don't have to win the bloody thing but just give me a nice memory. My mum had turned it off as she couldn't bare to watch the penalties and said she could literally hear the town cheering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Topless Ross Kemp losing it again would be lovely too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, themadsheep2001 said: When you read stuff like that, and you see the way he speaks, it's so easy to see why the players love him Quote When you go out there, in this shirt, you have the opportunity to produce moments that people will remember forever. You are a part of an experience that lasts in the collective consciousness of our country. You remember where you were watching England games. And who you were watching with. And who you were at the time. Absolutely lost it at this bit. Poetry. I don't care where he plays Grealish, he can keep the job forever as far as I'm concerned. Edited June 8, 2021 by Rob1981 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 If he was at good at managing football teams as he was at writing open letters then I'd agree. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 God imagine being an Aston Villa fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Haguey said: God imagine being an Aston Villa fan Sucks being in the Prem mate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, skybluedave said: Topless Ross Kemp losing it again would be lovely too. I'd much rather see a topless Jack Grealish but ok. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, skybluedave said: Topless Ross Kemp losing it again would be lovely too. Surely we can aim higher for a topless celeb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 hours ago, themadsheep2001 said: When you read stuff like that, and you see the way he speaks, it's so easy to see why the players love him it's Wenger-esque which is ****ing dangerous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If I were to back a team for winning this tournament at the bookies, I'd go with England. I say that as a Scotland fan. It's a really impressive squad you guys have got. The manager is also a very down to earth guy who will keep the players grounded. Sancho, Rashford, Bellingham, Greenwood, Grealish, Foden, Mount etc make up an incredible group of players who are going to be around for a while. It's a bright future for the ENT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 It's all about the confidence though, that's a huge hurdle to overcome when it's right down to the bare bones! We took the lead against Croatia in the semi and as the game went on we reverted to back in our shell and defending our box and it cost us Can we grab our bollocks and step up to France or Belgium when it really really matters and have 4 or 5 guys really play near their potential, that's likely what's required, to put in that 'top performance' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 This is what scares me. It feels like this is the first time I've seen foreign/non-English fans tipping us. I don't like it at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Lads. I'm excited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I listened to Vindaloo this morning 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, skybluedave said: This is what scares me. It feels like this is the first time I've seen foreign/non-English fans tipping us. I don't like it at all Maybe we're just piling the pressure on so you'll crumble 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: I listened to Vindaloo this morning We had World In Motion on over breakfast 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 No need for a brolly this time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzaj Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 22 hours ago, Lucas said: Bought an official England onesie on Amazon which arrived today, just to wear while watching the games this summer. This does sound about right to me. Can't imagine Gareth being bold enough to drop Sterling. Sorry to pick on you personally, but to me this highlights one of the more strange opinions people have about Southgate, as if he's never made a bold decision during his tenure. Between ending Rooney's international career [plenty of history of countries hanging on to grandees way past their best], dropping Walker and Alexander Arnold, handing debuts to several teenagers with little top-flight experience and using multiple different tactical styles, I'd say he's not been afraid to make a bold call if he feels he needs to. (Whether you agree with the decisions is another thing though!) It almost seems as if some people just project the image of Sven or Capello onto whoever's actually managing without looking at the details of what he's done - contrary to a few in the thread I don't think he'll be reluctant at all to use Grealish and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start at least a couple of the group stage games. (Based on both club and international form, sticking with Sterling would arguably be the bolder call.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 The big question remains on whether Gareth will bring back the waistcoat or not. Not sure wtf that thing is he’s been wearing under his suit jacket but it’s awful. Is it a shirt? Is it a polo? Who knows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I would love another run to a semi final but damn, not happy about that first knockout game, if we win the group then Germany/Portugal/France People may say Germany aren't what they are but when it comes to a big knockout game they'll always raise their game, there's far far far easier routes so how the **** did this happen! The 'winner of vs runner up of' is arguably as or more important than the group you have, as with extended entrants, the groups (aside from one) aren't massively 'challenging' (famous last words! Haha) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If we come 2nd we lose Wembley advantage. We could easily lose to France or Germany but Christ if we win our group and then with home advantage against one of them, bring it on. Last WC I wanted to beat Belgium and top the group despite it obviously not being favourable but I wanna face the big teams. Have to beat them if you want to win it, and if we did knockout a big boy (first time like ever), it would change the mentality around the side completely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 We'll play better against the good sides giving us more space, bring any of them on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted June 9, 2021 Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, Hazzaj said: It almost seems as if some people just project the image of Sven or Capello You can just as easily say Sven and Capello were pretty bold in some of their decision making. But they too had their favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Rewatched this last night. Starting to get exciting now. Not long to go before the big KO! ITV have a few highlights on this week of Euro '96, believe the Netherlands game is on as well as the SF vs Germany. Edited June 9, 2021 by craigcwwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Are England bookie fav where you're at as well? Not sure how they are same odds as France here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, VamPook said: Are England bookie fav where you're at as well? Not sure how they are same odds as France here Having had a quick look just now, we're 2nd favs with most of the bookies, 5/1. France the favourites with most sites at 9/2. Edited June 9, 2021 by craigcwwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, VamPook said: Are England bookie fav where you're at as well? Not sure how they are same odds as France here Because they're playing at home for pretty much every game. And have a good team. It's a solid combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 People writing off Hungary in that group, tbf the other three teams all being similarly strong means they could all take points off each other. Could easily see Hungary nicking a 1-0 against Portugal/Germany and digging in for a draw somewhere. Could go through in second with four points if the other results go for them. England v Hungary in R16 would suit us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Hungary losing their best player hasn't exactly helped their already slim chances though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Yeah, they got promoted to League A in the Nations League in the autumn though. Beat Serbia and Turkey, drew with Russia. Beat Iceland in the Euros playoffs. They're not there just to make up the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Hungary losing their best player hasn't exactly helped their already slim chances though. Who's that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, craigcwwe said: Who's that? Szoboszlai. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, craigcwwe said: Who's that? Szoboszlai is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Darius1998 said: Szoboszlai. 5 hours ago, darren1983 said: Szoboszlai is out. Didn't know that. That's a blow. Had him down as the best player in the squad but I thought Baptista might've been talking about another player. Edited June 9, 2021 by craigcwwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 They've also got two home games. But realistically, sneaking through in 3rd is the best they can hope for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: They've also got two home games. With no Covid restrictions, I think. So 60k crowd cheering them on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Ooh that could be a game changer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rob1981 said: People writing off Hungary in that group, tbf the other three teams all being similarly strong means they could all take points off each other. Could easily see Hungary nicking a 1-0 against Portugal/Germany and digging in for a draw somewhere. Could go through in second with four points if the other results go for them. England v Hungary in R16 would suit us. We ended up in a group with Portugal and Germany not that long ago. Romania qualified from that "group of death" with as many points as us and Germany put together... Edited June 9, 2021 by enigmatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, enigmatic said: We ended up in a group with Portugal and Germany not that long ago. Romania qualified from that "group of death" with as many points as us and Germany put together... Not that long ago? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Praying John Stones can hold it all together. Gonna end in tears ain't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: Praying John Stones can hold it all together. Gonna end in tears ain't it. Its England going into a tournament with high expectations an an enormously talented squad, of course its going to end in tears Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Maguire got injured vs. Villa, right? So he's five weeks post injury. Unless it's really bad (in which case someone in the camp will have known and shouldn't have called him up), he should get back to fitness but it will be during the tournament. But it's going to be so difficult to make a return midway through a tournament, particularly if England are winning and looking good. If they're playing ****, or winning but looking like a bombscare in defence, might be easier because the pressure is off - not like it could get any worse in that scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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