The Golden boy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, bermybhoy said: That would be better wouldn't it? It's not the Nemesis Inferno at Thorpe Park ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I thought we were all complaining recently that we don't get enough bank holidays in this country? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Just got the e-mail that we'll be off on Monday. But anyone in the Trust who is directly involved in patient care - be they doctors, nurses or admin staff - will all be expected to work. Any depts that wouldnt be open on a Bank Holiday will not be expected to work. Apparently the five Trusts in the area have all come to a consensus on it though Those that do work can have another day off at a later date or get paid for the extra day Edited September 13, 2022 by batch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, titchuk said: I thought we were all complaining recently that we don't get enough bank holidays in this country? Big problem is this is such a short notice bank holiday. Definitely are some sectors where you are leaving people in the lurch if you treat it as a day off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 9 hours ago, ginnybob said: Holy false equivalencies Batman. The tits protesting with a big police presence to protect them against a good hiding are of the same mindset of those who stand behind the police line at a football match with arms wide open offering the opposition fans, Without the ''despised'' police there to protect them they'd be nowhere to be seen. Perhaps the police should leave them be and let them figure it out instead of upsetting them and leading them out of harm's way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Anybody who has to deal with IT sales calls in particular will love this. Just had an American cold caller leave a voicemail where they said that they'd first like to "express condolences for the loss of her Majesty the Queen". Like we're all personally impacted by it or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Garethjohn79 said: The tits protesting with a big police presence to protect them against a good hiding are of the same mindset of those who stand behind the police line at a football match with arms wide open offering the opposition fans, Without the ''despised'' police there to protect them they'd be nowhere to be seen. Perhaps the police should leave them be and let them figure it out instead of upsetting them and leading them out of harm's way Perhaps they shouldn't be arresting them, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, InigoPatinkin said: Weirdly enough, oncologists still work on bank holidays usually. There's also a massive difference between planned in advance bank holidays and whatever this has mutated into. I agree with the short notice issue you and CJ raise, but still seems to me to be a problem that hospitals have caused themselves. If oncologists were due to work on Monday, and usually work on bank holidays, why aren't they doing so this time? And they can get a day off in lieu? Feels like a trust should be able to deal with this stuff sensibly rather than us blaming it on the monarchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 It’s like Covid all over again. How on earth do they think they can get away with this as a policy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: Anybody who has to deal with IT sales calls in particular will love this. Just had an American cold caller leave a voicemail where they said that they'd first like to "express condolences for the loss of her Majesty the Queen". Like we're all personally impacted by it or something. Saw similar in a British Photography group on Facebook earlier. Loads of Americans in it cos they love us guys and loads of them replying to stuff "praying for you guys" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 The Chase bounced from the schedule again. Disgraceful. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 hours ago, SouthCoastRed said: I think it was more in response to a misguided view of what public opinion would be. I don’t think they called them off to suck up to Charles, rather they stupidly thought it would be ‘for the best’ We both have no way of knowing this or agreeing about it, which makes this argument pointless, but I bet they didn’t, I bet they’d much rather it was much more private so they could grieve privately, but agreed to everything from a sense of duty. It ****ing hurts to lose your mother, I hope you don’t discover that for a long time. I'm pretty sure Phillip wanted as private and low-key funeral as possible I don't think his misses is far from this view point, the protocol and pageantry and all the tradition is for the ''country''. King Charles looks as he's moved what he can along as fast as possible, so both sides don't get too peed off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Me and Mrs Gizzy have both had it confirmed that we have the day off, and our kids are off school... So I've booked me and her a spa day and shipping my boys off to their grans for the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said: It’s like Covid all over again. How on earth do they think they can get away with this as a policy I thought it was a wind up when I saw it on Facebook this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, InigoPatinkin said: They've cancelled the football because as a country we have developed a psychosis over the royals where it is deemed necessary to display as much public "respect" as possible and somehow it's not because of the monarchy? You can't live in a system where it's drilled into the population that there's a special family who by blood are better than everyone else and we should all kneel down to them and then not blame said institution when things go wrong because people have been pre-conditioned to this sort of grovelling. Of course it's the monarchy's fault. I thought we were talking about hospital appointments rather than football, I find it baffling that hospital trusts don't have a plan they could've dusted off for this eventuality. I guess you're technically correct in that it's the monarchy's fault because if she hadn't died there wouldn't be a bank holiday but it strikes me as the hospitals are also very at fault because some of them have got themselves in a big pickle over something they knew was going to happen at some point. Football cancellations are a bit odd and there's definitely an argument that there was a better opportunity to 'pay respects' by having them take place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, InigoPatinkin said: They've cancelled the football because as a country we have developed a psychosis over the royals where it is deemed necessary to display as much public "respect" as possible and somehow it's not because of the monarchy? You can't live in a system where it's drilled into the population that there's a special family who by blood are better than everyone else and we should all kneel down to them and then not blame said institution when things go wrong because people have been pre-conditioned to this sort of grovelling. Of course it's the monarchy's fault. These phrases aren't especially pleasant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just reading on another forum - that young bloke in Edinburgh yesterday, who shouted at Prince Andrew...... has been charged with breach of the peace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 They’re accurate though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, InigoPatinkin said: I'd be more forgiving if it was just a matter of logistics, but cutting essential stuff (the hospital and foodbanks more than the football! :D) because of this moral panic to pay respects doesn't happen without having all these years of dogma shoved down our throats. Nearly as bad as religion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 hours ago, mark1985 said: My argument is why are they any more worthy of being the monarch than me? Or you? Or Dave from the pub? Being the head of a country (regardless of how much power they do or don’t have) shouldn’t be down to the lottery of birth. But if you want any hope of winning that argument don't protest past the Queens Coffin, Republicanism will not surge due to some goofy tit with a sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Garethjohn79 said: But if you want any hope of winning that argument don't protest past the Queens Coffin, Republicanism will not surge due to some goofy tit with a sign. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I think i can understand. Pens do this https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1569725148432834561?s=20&t=4cXKdOCPG111vZJJBA9kew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, InigoPatinkin said: Were cancer check-ups cancelled on that day? Somehow I doubt it. A bank-holiday/federal holiday isn't the same as obviously essential services shutting down out of "respect". We are having things cancelled because the country keeps electing parties that are handing out bank holidays ther'll be another for the Coronation, so blame the electorate and opposition parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Rearrange off and **** to make a well known phrase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Big problem is this is such a short notice bank holiday. Definitely are some sectors where you are leaving people in the lurch if you treat it as a day off. Should they have had her in the fridge and waited a few months? It's a Bank holiday isn't it meaning not everyone is off, the Police certainly aren't, and the plans have been in place for decades all trusts should have had a plan in place including if she'd died on their patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ginnybob said: Perhaps they shouldn't be arresting them, yeah. Then their mummy will be asking ''why didn't the police stop my precious Tarquin Honey-suckle getting duffed up'' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Think the last few days in Scotland have been crackers on the TV? Just wait until Lizzy gets to London - 15mins away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Garethjohn79 said: Then their mummy will be asking ''why didn't the police stop my precious Tarquin Honey-suckle getting duffed up'' I've tried to understand what you've been going on about, but I give up. Any translator? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Nah, let them fight amongst themselves. It'll be more entertaining than these endless processions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Fair play to him, not someone I’d have had down as coming out in defence of the guy. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, PaulHartman71 said: Fair play to him, not someone I’d have had down as coming out in defence of the guy. As someone says on the feed, why isn't the pm doing this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Mildly amusing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Not sure if already posted but "Dozens of Clarence House staff have been given notice of their redundancy as the offices of King Charles and the Queen Consort move to Buckingham Palace after the death of the Queen" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/13/king-charles-staff-given-redundancy-notice-during-church-service-for-queen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Yes please. Everybody stay at home. Especially the car users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, Peter G said: Mildly amusing Gross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Expected really Edited September 13, 2022 by oche balboa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Looks like British Cycling have back-pedalled on their advice. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, InigoPatinkin said: Arresting people trying to assault people holding up signs seems a much better use of police time than arresting the people with signs if you ask me. Really one in a van taken away and released a few minutes later out of harm's way with no paperwork, or scraping him up off the floor, or sticking twenty coppers in between him and those wanting to beat him up for a few hours, which will use more resources? The Police have done him a favour he won't see it that way as he's a tit. If a Funeral of a Queen wasn't enough to push the pro monarchist, you have an anti-monarchist making it even more popular. He's got his five minutes of fame though. ''It's what he would have wanted''. Edited September 13, 2022 by Garethjohn79 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darren Moores Mum Posted September 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2022 Actually defending people who want to assault somebody else because they said Charles wasn't their king. Have a word with yourself. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I mean, the arrest has got a a very pro monarchy MP questioning it, so I'm not sure it's actually making your argument. In fact judging by reactions to that and Centre parks etc, it's making people decidedly angry about what's going on. Don't think it's doing the monarchy any favours even though they haven't called for it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: Actually defending people who want to assault somebody else because they said Charles wasn't their king. Have a word with yourself. People have lost their heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, InigoPatinkin said: I can't tell if people just have appallingly low standards of what they expect from police officers or will just say anything to cravenly suck up to power, the mind boggles. Why not both? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 It's the type of ******** defence that enables action which nearly always impacts the vulnerable and ethnic minorities I'd have slightly (but not much) more time for the police if at any point they had said "look we're not trying to stop you protesting, but you might end up winding a few people up and if you're deep in the crowd we might not be able to get to you, so have a think" or something like that. But so far it looks like they've just come full jackboot in every example 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: People have lost their heads. The country is in a difficult place right now. Couldn't have come at a worse time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, InigoPatinkin said: Yes. Police aren't there to make their job easier by infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens because they can't be bothered to deal with people who are actually breaking the law. They are there to protect first, they protected the tit from getting beaten up in the most efficient way possible. Hes not in hospital they've done their job. Who else were breaking the law? They prevented a crime from happening his assault again what Policing should be about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Garethjohn79 said: They are there to protect first, they protected the tit from getting beaten up in the most efficient way possible. Hes not in hospital they've done their job. Who else were breaking the law? They prevented a crime from happening his assault again what Policing should be about. This is the kind of ******** argument that sees minorities routinely have their rights violated by the police. So I would really like to know if you're going to defend racist policing soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just so everyone is clear, a number of people have actually been charged. So it's not even about "protecting most efficiently" because you'd de-arrest them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethjohn79 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, InigoPatinkin said: If you let the police put law-abiding people in the back of a van for an easy time of things you end up with a police force that arrests women holding a vigil for a woman murdered by a police officer. You reckon winding a huge crowd peacefully watching a hears with a queen in it is the same as that? At no point have I said you shouldn't protest, I'm saying they have prevented an escalation by removing the antagonist who could have been severely hurt, should the police have left him be? The Police had the safety of thousands to look after including the tit. They didn't have an internet forum to debate over hours and days to decide what to do, they had a few minutes, in this case taking him away and letting him go was the best way to handle it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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