_Ben_ Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, snowofman said: Been looking at your code here and was wondering what determens if the bar is split into multiply ? It’s an error, somewhere. It’s a horizontal auto_arrange with no gap in between but sometimes - and I can’t replicate consistently - there is that gap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, _Ben_ said: It’s an error, somewhere. It’s a horizontal auto_arrange with no gap in between but sometimes - and I can’t replicate consistently - there is that gap. ahh okay, thanks for clearing my confusen up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Masca Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 @_Ben_ Could I promote Statman to the Brazilian community, through FManager? It would translate your first post, keeping all information including your name, contributors and the original download link. I really liked the skin and have been using it on my FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Gabriel Masca said: @_Ben_ Could I promote Statman to the Brazilian community, through FManager? It would translate your first post, keeping all information including your name, contributors and the original download link. I really liked the skin and have been using it on my FM. Of course! I apologise for the lack of translations but hope people understand my reasons for this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoChroMe_LTD Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 il y a 3 minutes, _Ben_ a dit : Of course! I apologise for the lack of translations but hope people understand my reasons for this! It's true that it's difficult to understand everything, because this skin is extraordinary. I'm trying to translate what I can into French. Thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Leaving it here for today! Resized the bars and created some new classes so that they fit on here but also on the player profile, then played around with getting as much info as I can on the right hand side that isn't already available. Not hugely sold on the P/R/D button and then need to consider what this then looks like on the pre-match briefing panel. When I wrap this up, the new update will have: - New competition landing page - New player comparison page - New data hub panels - New tactics area Hopefully out this week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Masca Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 horas atrás, _Ben_ disse: Of course! I apologise for the lack of translations but hope people understand my reasons for this! Thanks! Congratulations on your incredible work with Statman. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 hours ago, _Ben_ said: It's just a space issue. I want to have both but it's really not ideal. Not tried form but I think it's doable! I'd recommend working from the hidden container in tactics icon info panel overview that contains the morale. You may need a bit of a change on the sizing though. This is my newest thought... Got to sort the sizing out - particularly for the P/R/D and familiarity but, essentially, I've just changed whatever the second box used to house for the statistical info I want. i like the way it sits downunder the name without having an effect on the above did you redo the whole "tactics icon info panel overview" to make it possible to make the box larger/ taller i've only tried a little bit today and only been able to adjust the size upward so it covers the pictiure and shirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, snowofman said: i like the way it sits downunder the name without having an effect on the above did you redo the whole "tactics icon info panel overview" to make it possible to make the box larger/ taller i've only tried a little bit today and only been able to adjust the size upward so it covers the pictiure and shirt Yeah - that was important for me, keeping that normality across the three buttons at the top. I just reworked the panel, to be fair. I found it easier to convert all the <container> into <container class="contrast_box" red_replacement="xx"> in order to really see what controlled what. I've attached it to have a little play with if you wanted... tactics icon info panel overview.xml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, _Ben_ said: Yeah - that was important for me, keeping that normality across the three buttons at the top. I just reworked the panel, to be fair. I found it easier to convert all the <container> into <container class="contrast_box" red_replacement="xx"> in order to really see what controlled what. I've attached it to have a little play with if you wanted... tactics icon info panel overview.xml 12.03 kB · 0 downloads Thanks and yeah defo a rework..i'll take a closer look later or tomorrow but you know when you see a thing and didne really know you wanted it until you saw it. thats kinda how i feel will try and make it work and see if it still gives me that feeling much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, snowofman said: Thanks and yeah defo a rework..i'll take a closer look later or tomorrow but you know when you see a thing and didne really know you wanted it until you saw it. thats kinda how i feel will try and make it work and see if it still gives me that feeling much appreciated. All the time! I have skins from everywhere across the community and, now I've got my fundamentals in that make this my skin, I'm always looking around at things that make me think 'oooh, that'd be nice!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, _Ben_ said: All the time! I have skins from everywhere across the community and, now I've got my fundamentals in that make this my skin, I'm always looking around at things that make me think 'oooh, that'd be nice!' yeah i use to have that aswell, not as much these days so i had a look and just tossed your file in there and things work fine on the upper part but the lower part is missing abit, i can see you've changed the names of the classes abit, but even before that i could not find half of those classes.. guess i need to relearn how classes naming goes but that said, i'm not quite sure what i'm missing or not seeing as non of the buttoms have anything underthe name beside a slim line Edit: found the issue in your file, it's the same as in mine. i believe it's down to that you've redone the tactic file and made it horizontal and therefor can adjust the box in the normal position, the box only expands upwards.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Brilliant work as always @_Ben_, looking forward to playing around with the next update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieguitoch Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Hello, I'm still unable to add some attributes to be shown on players profile. I created the graphics for good/bad/excellent "crossing" in the "TEST" folder... I added the 3 files in the "attribute descriptor" folder... I tried to add some lines in the "descriptors" file in the "panels/player/Tabbed/main/attributes" folder but it doesn't seem to be enough !... What am I missing ? Thanks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieguitoch Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Also and I don't know how to do that but, if you allow me, I'd be happy to share the French translation of the "worded attributes" I've made ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoChroMe_LTD Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Il y a 2 heures, dieguitoch a dit : Also and I don't know how to do that but, if you allow me, I'd be happy to share the French translation of the "worded attributes" I've made ! What have you done? You should show your work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, NeoChroMe_LTD said: What have you done? You should show your work Quote I'd be happy to share the French translation of the "worded attributes" I've made He just told you, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieguitoch Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 il y a une heure, snowofman a dit : He just told you, What ? Who ? When ? How ? Didn't receive Ben's approval to share my French translation publicly as far as I know ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 minute ago, dieguitoch said: What ? Who ? When ? How ? Didn't receive Ben's approval to share my French translation publicly as far as I know ! The post below yours asked you to show what you've made/done and i just replied that you had already written what you had done (translated attributes to french) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoChroMe_LTD Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) il y a 19 minutes, snowofman a dit : The post below yours asked you to show what you've made/done and i just replied that you had already written what you had done (translated attributes to french) we can talk in mp Edited July 17, 2023 by NeoChroMe_LTD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 @dieguitoch and @NeoChroMe_LTD - feel free to continue working on translations. I won’t offer it as a part of my skin though as I cannot 100% validate the correctness of it. I hope you understand my reasoning behind both that and the reason why it’s all in English in the first place! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieguitoch Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Il y a 4 heures, _Ben_ a dit : @dieguitoch and @NeoChroMe_LTD - feel free to continue working on translations. I won’t offer it as a part of my skin though as I cannot 100% validate the correctness of it. I hope you understand my reasoning behind both that and the reason why it’s all in English in the first place! Yes, sure, no problem ! But you can note that I really hope you'll go on with that idea on next FM's and that you could count on me to do some of the boring job that doesn't require to understand anything about skinning, like those little texts graphics ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieguitoch Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 If someone wants to have a French version of those "worded attributes", you can pm me !... Si quelqu'un veut la version française des descriptions d'attributs... contactez-moi par message privé !... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoChroMe_LTD Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Il y a 19 heures, _Ben_ a dit : @dieguitoch and @NeoChroMe_LTD - feel free to continue working on translations. I won’t offer it as a part of my skin though as I cannot 100% validate the correctness of it. I hope you understand my reasoning behind both that and the reason why it’s all in English in the first place! Yes, absolutely, but we'll do the French translation if we can. There's nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) @_Ben_ what I have noticed and I am not on my laptop now to indicated via photos is that during the game and what I want shout to my players other on all team or part of or individual nothing saws is totally black in that specific pop up panel ….. Edited July 19, 2023 by milenec11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoChroMe_LTD Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Le 18/07/2023 à 17:12, Lilly a dit : @NeoChroMe_LTD: German translation would be amazing cheers to all. Sorry, I am French Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 hours ago, milenec11 said: @_Ben_ what I have noticed and I am not on my laptop now to indicated via photos is that during the game and what I want shout to my players other on all team or part of or individual nothing saws is totally black in that specific pop up panel ….. Yes. I've just noticed that this is still gone. I'll go in and try and find out what I've missed or inserted wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01revenge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 which font file changes the name BRUNO FERNANDES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieguitoch Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Hello ! Another suggestion that would be great but don't know if it's possible. In the tactic screen you're working on, would it be possible to add the "familiarity" green bars just under the contributions ones so you could get rid of the 3 top left buttons that would be useless ? I've tried to do a small example below on the left wing players: As always, a big thanks to you ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) @_Ben_ is possible to insert more stats about GKs such as …. Save Ratio (SR) Ratio of saves and goals Formula: Saves/GA Save Pct (SPct) Number of saves over number of shots on target. Formula: Saves/SOG Goals Allowed Average (GAA) Number of goals allowed by game on average. Formula: (GA*90)/MIN Save Avg (SA) Average number of saves per game. Edited July 21, 2023 by milenec11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 17:02, _Ben_ said: It’s an error, somewhere. It’s a horizontal auto_arrange with no gap in between but sometimes - and I can’t replicate consistently - there is that gap. Been looking abit more into the code and can tell that if you change horizontal_gap="0" to horizontal_gap="1" in the line just before eache group of attributes, you'll get the gap which in my opinion makes sense to have as each line consist of 3 attributes. atleast thats how i've made it as i like it better with the gap Just thought i would drop a little update. Have a nice weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 20/07/2023 at 06:26, 01revenge said: which font file changes the name BRUNO FERNANDES I imagine it’ll be ‘title’ but you can just change it in through the individual xml file. On 20/07/2023 at 10:20, dieguitoch said: Hello ! Another suggestion that would be great but don't know if it's possible. In the tactic screen you're working on, would it be possible to add the "familiarity" green bars just under the contributions ones so you could get rid of the 3 top left buttons that would be useless ? I've tried to do a small example below on the left wing players: As always, a big thanks to you ! There is not enough room for that at all. You’ll see when I get some time to actually release this skin that it’s still a little tighter than I wanted but got no wiggle room to add more. On 20/07/2023 at 16:35, milenec11 said: @_Ben_ is possible to insert more stats about GKs such as …. Save Ratio (SR) Ratio of saves and goals Formula: Saves/GA Save Pct (SPct) Number of saves over number of shots on target. Formula: Saves/SOG Goals Allowed Average (GAA) Number of goals allowed by game on average. Formula: (GA*90)/MIN Save Avg (SA) Average number of saves per game. I can’t ‘make up’ stats - just display them in a different way. Sorry! 12 hours ago, snowofman said: Been looking abit more into the code and can tell that if you change horizontal_gap="0" to horizontal_gap="1" in the line just before eache group of attributes, you'll get the gap which in my opinion makes sense to have as each line consist of 3 attributes. atleast thats how i've made it as i like it better with the gap Just thought i would drop a little update. Have a nice weekend I don’t want the gap between them! The idea is to have a total bar length that signifies their involvement in that area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, _Ben_ said: I don’t want the gap between them! The idea is to have a total bar length that signifies their involvement in that area. ahhh fair point and i'm not sold on the gap either after looking at it more and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHowie Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Lilly said: @NeoChroMe_LTDmaybe it is possible to put all text, that you changed from English to France into a container, that google or chat gpt translate that container text automaticly to prefered Language? (Italy, Spain, German... and more) Maybe then more People can use that amazing statman Skin in his own home language. but, just Ideas, @NeoChroMe_LTD Would be 100x easier to find a skin that already has the translation IDs or something close name wise than than to Google translate XMLs in part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoChroMe_LTD Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 il y a une heure, Lilly a dit : @NeoChroMe_LTDmaybe it is possible to put all text, that you changed from English to France into a container, that google or chat gpt translate that container text automaticly to prefered Language? (Italy, Spain, German... and more) Maybe then more People can use that amazing statman Skin in his own home language. but, just Ideas, @NeoChroMe_LTD Some people need to start translating and Statman shouldn't be removing the translations from certain places because I'm just putting back the auto-removed translations when there's no need to remove them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, JustHowie said: Would be 100x easier to find a skin that already has the translation IDs or something close name wise than than to Google translate XMLs in part Why go into skins when you can just roam in the language file where "almost" all translation id's are. beside that, what people might not know or have forgotten is the whole reason behind the removal of translations id's in the first place So it won't be long before the people that wants to translate it into another language will come running with broken panels due to length of words in another language etc. But Ben already explained this and if i remember correct, also said that he would not give support in fixing broken panels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowofman Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 minute ago, NeoChroMe_LTD said: Some people need to start translating and Statman shouldn't be removing the translations from certain places because I'm just putting back the auto-removed translations when there's no need to remove them. When you make your own skin, you can make the choice to keep or remove the translation id's Ben is in his full right to remove or keep them, as this started as a Skin for his personal use. He might have done things differently if he knew then what he know now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, NeoChroMe_LTD said: Some people need to start translating and Statman shouldn't be removing the translations from certain places because I'm just putting back the auto-removed translations when there's no need to remove them. I've told you this enough times and I've responded to at least twenty messages directly to me about this. Continue this stupid rant about translating and wanting me to translate things and panels just for you and I'll just remove this skin from the community. I've explained the reasons, apologised for the fact that I genuinely did not know about the need for them as well as the fact that this skin was initially for personal use only and you still haven't grasped this concept. I ask, again, respectfully, that you stop contacting me about this issue and do not discuss any translation issues with any members in this thread. EDIT: I've taken the link down. Apologies to those who actually wanted to contribute to the upkeep and design process of this skin. Edited July 22, 2023 by _Ben_ 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I'm 100% behind you on this one, @_Ben_. I'm sorry if I can't get any further updates on this wonderful skin, but so be it if we can't respect your work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TCSSkin Posted July 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2023 Lets go back to basics. How do Football Manager skins translate text? Football Manager uses a function called translation_id's which are formatted like so translation_id="230106" type="use" value="Mental" In theory, the value="Mental" bit is pointless, the translation_Id="230106" is what is important, these relate to the language files which can be extracted from the game. What does this mean? The game has preset strings of text that are translated, you can not make strings of text that are translated from language to language. @_Ben_has decided to use custom strings, and has made it prominent at the top of the thread that it won't be translated. If people want to create their own translations, that's up to Ben, Skinmakers don't owe anyone anything, apart from a skin that works and doesn't crash the game. If a skin has bugs, if a skin doesn't fit your resolution and the creator doesn't want to make it adaptable, hard luck. We do this for free, @_Ben_, @GIMN, myself and many others have spent 100's of hours making skins how we like them and haven't received a single cent for it. Adding in translating text, as well as verifying that the translations are correct and you're doubling that time. Considering we make this for ourselves, and decide to share it, frankly its not worth it. Behaviour like this, demanding, harassing is what pushes people away from a community that has been dying for years, yet this year has made a resurgence thanks to the like of Ben, GIMN, Howie and I'm not prepared to let bad actors ruin it. Ben has said he has no plans to translate the skin and won't be sharing any translations. That's it. End of discussion. Respect that choice, if you don't like it, try another skin. I understand that it can be frustrating for users who don't play in English, however expecting someone who doesn't speak anything but English to translate to anything but English is completely unrealistic. Any future requests will be dealt with as decided by the moderating team. I will speak to Ben in private, but for now, this thread is locked until Ben decides to share more. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 5TATMAN https://www.mediafire.com/file/4u7ct8l6thtbvk6/5TATMAN_%28Statman_v5%29.rar/file With FM24 seemingly not changing the skin too much, I want to get my skin back out in the public domain so that the great members of the community can assist in making this the best project that it can possibly be. I took some time away from skinning and posting about the skin but there have been a lot of changes since my last public release, including changes to next/last opponent, team squad, competition panels and hidden buttons, that are explained below. Hidden buttons: See the image below for places where, on human profiles, you can access extra info that I've hidden. Spoiler I don't want to start this conversation again but, just to reiterate - I have built this skin for me and did not expect the interest that it's had therefore, there are two things to know. 1) The skin was built for 1920x1080 resolution and 85% zoom. Things may not fit perfectly elsewhere. Please tell me of things that look really off but I can't promise I'll amend them to just fit your screen. 2) The skin was built in English ONLY. To change things around and add my own descriptions etc, I've removed a lot of translation IDs. I won't be putting them in but you are more than welcome to go through them yourself and amend. Be warned - there are lots! --- What I'm looking for, in the next month, is some feedback on the direction for the skin to go. It's now no longer automatic that you must use graphical or text string for attributes so you can, if you wanted, get a pretty vanilla version of this but, with my indecision, this is not always mirrored (or is possible to be mirrored) elsewhere - e.g. the inbox categories seem unable to accept attribute selectors so it looks like this. I ask that, if you do wish to download this, please can you provide me some feedback on where it is so far and where it could go. Again, I don't (and won't) commit to everything that everyone wants but I will try to give a reasoned answer of why it doesn't fit my ideology. With your help, Statman24 can be a success! Edited September 17, 2023 by _Ben_ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) Cheers for the skin @_Ben_! Just reinstalled windows and installed FM an hour ago in preparation for FM24 and you've gone and released a v5 of your skin! Immediate download and will let you know my thoughts on it! edit - am used to playing at 100% zoom but everything is 'off'. Even at 95%. Am gonna give 85% a try for the first time. My sight is not the best for that but the skin is too good not to give a try. this is kinda messed up at 85% Edited September 17, 2023 by -Jef- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 Thanks @-Jef- The tactics page is one area that does need another refresh. I'm thinking that the pitch area still need to be the focal point but some buttons could pull out certain other bits of info. That would mean there is more room to stop things like that being a little squashed.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, _Ben_ said: Thanks @-Jef- The tactics page is one area that does need another refresh. I'm thinking that the pitch area still need to be the focal point but some buttons could pull out certain other bits of info. That would mean there is more room to stop things like that being a little squashed.... can make this soccer field in tactics little bit smaller? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 can i say here public some idea for this skin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ben_ Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, milenec11 said: can i say here public some idea for this skin Yes. Please share the ideas. As I said - not everything will be acted upon but I am happy to take into account any ideas from the community. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 so i wonder if it was a good idea to change somehow the player info in tactical screen and i explain, the tactical screen when you click on the player you get this info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 so you have to click on the nwe sections exp information to get you in this info, yes but this is tactic screen selection ,so i need info about how well is this player for my tactical approach in this position. so i need stats ..........perhaps something like that....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 i took this info from here .......and i make it paste copy in order to give you some idea what i meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenec11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 and something that i feel that some where somehow has been answered and felt shame to ask ,but what stands for in player stats the yellow, blue and green stars ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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