DaddyPig86 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hello everybody, the China Data Update for Football Manager 2023 is now live, you can see more details in the link below. Vague reference to 'some gameplay changes' without telling us what they are.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 30 minuti fa, DaddyPig86 ha scritto: Vague reference to 'some gameplay changes' without telling us what they are.... Probably a couple of minor things that no one cares about, meanwhile the annoying stuff like the transfer history going back to current year when checking sold players in past years, young players reputation bug and other important stuff are all ignored. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crarfc Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 steam automatically downloaded the new update for me but dont see any 23.5 only a 23.4 version, bizarre! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 I think we need to know the gameplay changes. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: You could say time wasting is another effective way for a keeper to be booked, I think Pope's had 3 of them this season Pshhh is that it? Lee Nicholls for Huddersfield has 10 in the last two seasons and he's been injured for 5 months of that (all for time wasting) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Zachary Whyte Posted May 9, 2023 Administrators Share Posted May 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, crarfc said: steam automatically downloaded the new update for me but dont see any 23.5 only a 23.4 version, bizarre! Hi @crarfc the 23.4 database got overwritten. So the 23.4 database includes the China update changes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crarfc Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hi @crarfc the 23.4 database got overwritten. So the 23.4 database includes the China update changes. thanks for the info mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d d Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Mine says 23.5.# Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 8 hours ago, d d said: Mine says 23.5.# Game version will be 23.5, but database version will be 23.4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Here's a thought on FM Should Directors of Football have more importance in FM? They are increasingly essential for clubs going well. Most clubs operate with one nowadays, and bigger clubs poach good DoFs. Currently in FM, there would be absolutely no difference if you'd remove all DoFs. The game also generates DoFs with amazing stats at the start of the game, so that means that real-life DoFs will never move clubs, only retire. And once they do, clubs will just sign a free-agent staff regen instead of looking for a real replacement. But even so, they do almost nothing in FM. I think they should play a bigger role in next editions, similar to real life - Hear about it in the media, especially with big transfers - Get credit for good recruitment/success of smaller clubs - Get blamed and/or fired for bad spells of bigger clubs 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) I don't understand the grading for Goalkeepers in this version. My GK had a single shot on target the whole game and got a 7.4 rating... This hides the fact that he under performs when he has more than a shot on target... BTW, the striker who scored the first goal got a 7.1 Edited May 10, 2023 by andu1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, andu1 said: I don't understand the grading for Goalkeepers in this version. My GK had a single shot on target the whole game and got a 7.4 rating... This hides the fact that he under performs when he has more than a shot on target... BTW, the striker who scored the first goal got a 7.1 Yeah, it's a bit mental really, the clean sheet is a massive rating booster for GKs, they can do nothing all game and rate highly 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard65 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 20 hours ago, Zachary Whyte said: Hi @crarfc the 23.4 database got overwritten. So the 23.4 database includes the China update changes. What about my data update? Do I have to reload my files in the editor to add the Chinese data? I assume these are not added to my files from a few days ago that I added? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 What's going on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakiano Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Can't play right now, did Juventus got removed his 15 penalty points in this new update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstrikuuu Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Lempicka said: What's going on here? Any chance you're playing as a direct rival? Otherwise, it's one of those things that happens pretty regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Mitza said: Here's a thought on FM Should Directors of Football have more importance in FM? They are increasingly essential for clubs going well. Most clubs operate with one nowadays, and bigger clubs poach good DoFs. Currently in FM, there would be absolutely no difference if you'd remove all DoFs. The game also generates DoFs with amazing stats at the start of the game, so that means that real-life DoFs will never move clubs, only retire. And once they do, clubs will just sign a free-agent staff regen instead of looking for a real replacement. But even so, they do almost nothing in FM. I think they should play a bigger role in next editions, similar to real life - Hear about it in the media, especially with big transfers - Get credit for good recruitment/success of smaller clubs - Get blamed and/or fired for bad spells of bigger clubs Maybe it should tie into how the board review your performance. If the club decide to have a DoF and you don't follow his advice on signings and you underperform then the likeliness of them sacking you would be higher. Likewise if you follow some or all of his advice and you underperform then they'll be more lenient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: Yeah, it's a bit mental really, the clean sheet is a massive rating booster for GKs, they can do nothing all game and rate highly He's back to his normal form, 3 shots on target , 2 goals conceded, 6.4 rating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotsworthy Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 hours ago, Mitza said: Here's a thought on FM Should Directors of Football have more importance in FM? They are increasingly essential for clubs going well. Most clubs operate with one nowadays, and bigger clubs poach good DoFs. Currently in FM, there would be absolutely no difference if you'd remove all DoFs. The game also generates DoFs with amazing stats at the start of the game, so that means that real-life DoFs will never move clubs, only retire. And once they do, clubs will just sign a free-agent staff regen instead of looking for a real replacement. But even so, they do almost nothing in FM. I think they should play a bigger role in next editions, similar to real life - Hear about it in the media, especially with big transfers - Get credit for good recruitment/success of smaller clubs - Get blamed and/or fired for bad spells of bigger clubs I agree that for AI clubs the director of football should carry the can for recruitment. And could occasionally be sacked if they buy too many players who flop. Or be poached by other clubs. Staffing in general is an area that could do with a fair bit of overhaul though. I sometimes use the dof but I prefer to do my own negotiations and don't trust him to buy players for me. Maybe I should try it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 @deco2609 - Please have a look at the rules going forward. Your current tone is not acceptable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deco2609 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 On 11/05/2023 at 20:58, XaW said: @deco2609 - Please have a look at the rules going forward. Your current tone is not acceptable. I'm sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Wasn't the injury issue supposed to be toned down in one of the recent patches? Because i'm literally seeing no changes. I honestly will simply starting using the ingame editor to fix injuries because this is beyond stupid and no other team in my league is anywhere near the amount i'm facing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 The fact that no other team in your league is having the same issue should be telling you something about how you manage your players. Adjusting the rate of training issues was never about stopping lot of injuries if a squad isn't looked after. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 22 minuti fa, themadsheep2001 ha scritto: The fact that no other team in your league is having the same issue should be telling you something about how you manage your players. Adjusting the rate of training issues was never about stopping lot of injuries if a squad isn't looked after. Training is in the hand of a solid assman. So if you blame the training schedule, you are blaming the default one SI made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, DMaster2 said: Training is in the hand of a solid assman. So if you blame the training schedule, you are blaming the default one SI made. Notice I said how you manage them, It's not just about training, but recovery and rotation. If i was picking up many injuries, especially in training, i'd be looking at my tactical intensity and how that goes with my training demands and rotation/recovery style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 48 minuti fa, themadsheep2001 ha scritto: Notice I said how you manage them, It's not just about training, but recovery and rotation. If i was picking up many injuries, especially in training, i'd be looking at my tactical intensity and how that goes with my training demands and rotation/recovery style. My database has only 1 game per week and i rotate every player that isn't match fit, so that's not it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalokalitokalo Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 After last winter patch, how do you feel the state of the game is? Is it worth buying? - How is AI squad management? Is it as awful as FM22? - How is the AI young player development? Fixed now? Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jimmy Wong Posted May 15, 2023 Administrators Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 10/05/2023 at 16:49, Lempicka said: What's going on here? We suggest you raise this in the Bug Tracker, please. Our team will take a look for you. It would help us if you could also upload the save game so we have an example to investigate. Bug Tracker link: https://community.sigames.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2023-bugs-tracker/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeegBCFC Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I think it's great that the final match engine of FM23 features 90% of shots being looped up into the air and into the keepers hands after a block. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaster2 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 ore fa, kalokalitokalo ha scritto: After last winter patch, how do you feel the state of the game is? Is it worth buying? - How is AI squad management? Is it as awful as FM22? - How is the AI young player development? Fixed now? Thank you! 1) Absolutely can't recommend it 2) Pretty much the same 3) Nope, it was broken at the beginning and they put a bandaid but it's far from working properly. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Is it too soon for FM24 speculation thread for beta release? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 What is MOTPSPRDH? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIMN Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 8 hours ago, JT said: What is MOTPSPRDH? My guess, without knowing any Norwegian, would be that it is the chosen translation for Passes Per Defensive Action: https://statsbomb.com/articles/soccer/defensive-metrics-measuring-the-intensity-of-a-high-press/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, GIMN said: My guess, without knowing any Norwegian, would be that it is the chosen translation for Passes Per Defensive Action: https://statsbomb.com/articles/soccer/defensive-metrics-measuring-the-intensity-of-a-high-press/ Damn I should've thought about changing the game language before asking here, but you're right. It was Opposition Passes per Defensive Action (OPPDA). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post XaW Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 Wow, what a goal! It was against us, but still, wow! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 16 hours ago, XaW said: Wow, what a goal! It was against us, but still, wow! Audacious! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Lempicka said: Audacious! I know, it left me both annoyed and happy at the same time! Now, if I could get my players to do the same.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domathon Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 my game now wont load crashes on loading screen, missing skeleton files/data or something, googled it followed instructions on a reddit page didn't work, neither now does a full delete > install. :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Domathon said: my game now wont load crashes on loading screen, missing skeleton files/data or something, googled it followed instructions on a reddit page didn't work, neither now does a full delete > install. Tried everything here: https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/10005189758353-What-should-I-do-if-I-encounter-a-crash-dump-nothing-happening-or-an-error-message-when-launching-Football-Manager- If so, please submit a support ticket: https://fmofficial.support/Ticket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 10/05/2023 at 05:24, Mitza said: Here's a thought on FM Should Directors of Football have more importance in FM? They are increasingly essential for clubs going well. Most clubs operate with one nowadays, and bigger clubs poach good DoFs. For human-controlled clubs, no. I would guess that the overwhelming majority of people playing this game want to handle transfers themselves rather than be dictated to by a board or director of football. I think I'd go crazy if I had to beg the board or the DOF to make each transfer that I wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Why do I always get amazing goals against me!? Rabona assist... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, XaW said: Why do I always get amazing goals against me!? Rabona assist... Apparently, No.37 lost his mind Curious to see next year ME, because 3rd in row, Man City won the EPL; but Liverpool still META in game. Edited May 20, 2023 by fc.cadoni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 7 hours ago, fc.cadoni said: Apparently, No.37 lost his mind He seems to have thought that the guy was past his man and stepped in to secure it. More annoyed that 12 didn't step in to take over... 7 hours ago, fc.cadoni said: Curious to see next year ME, because 3rd in row, Man City won the EPL; but Liverpool still META in game. In my game City has won 2 of the 4 seasons that's done so far. This season it looks to be Arsenal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, XaW said: Why do I always get amazing goals against me!? Rabona assist... If that was my game, I'd be getting the chequebook out - purely on the basis of that assist. Fontana's a baller. Edited May 21, 2023 by Lempicka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotsworthy Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 In the next FM version can we please stop DOFs/Loan Managers auto rejecting bids that don't quite match what we've set in the requirements? Especially if I am in charge or accepting/rejecting incoming offers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeegBCFC Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Should I be shocked or not?? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etebaer Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) After some disasterous years following the Windhorst investment burning through the cash, buying Player without plan, hiring gradualy more incompetent Managers and Coaches each time, almost bancrupt Hertha Berlin is finally relegated 18th of the 1.Bundesliga . It is not clear if Hertha will get the Licence for 2.Bundesliga if they fail to ensure guaranteed liquidity which seem to depend on Windhorst successor 777 Partners and their hundreds of Millions. Hertha will burn through more cash until they may have adjusted to reality and if they fail they become at best a Tier 4 Team. I am not happy that Hertha is relegated as her fans suffer but i am satisfied bcs bad management needs to be punished instead of being fixed with throwing more good money after the bad money! In Football Manager Hertha Berlins stature and team be way to good having them fight for EL/CL almost every year - the discrepancy FM23 to reality is way to big! Hertha is a relegetion candidate since pretty much 3 years getting worse each season but FM Scouts seem not to get it...? Good Bye Edited May 21, 2023 by Etebaer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobkoByalov Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Since the last update, there seems to be a hell of a lot of red cards happening for 2 footed tackles. Same tactics, same instructions, gegenpressing but not with 'get stuck in' or 'tackle harder' selected. At a loss at how to actually stop players doing 2 footed tackles (where previously none were happening before the update). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I'd be very curious how the AI handles squads for clubs that rely heavily on their youth academies, and how they look in 15 years and 30 years time compared to today, in terms of average age and current ability. Clubs like Real Sociedad, Athletic Bilbao, RB Leipzig/RB Salzburg, Barcelona, Benfica. It really seems like the AI can't handle clubs producing, playing and keeping their own youth prospects for most of their careers. In my latest save, RB Salzburg was full of 30+ years old signed on a free. Barcelona has almost no Spanish players, about 2 from their own academy, and have sold players like Gavi and Pedri. Athletic Bilbao is hardcoded to use their own players but the average current ability is nowhere near the level at the start of the game. I would love to run the experiment but I'm on a trip for a few weeks, will try to do it once i'm back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The unknown Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 i hate the fact that results like these occuring every other game, doest even suprise me anymore. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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