Ackter Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 im not sure if the commentary or the football is worse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 We just need to be a bit more patient with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Thought the first 15 looked decent but we've gone turgid this last 15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Either Rice has been told to not leave the centre or he doesn’t want to move out of there to get the ball himself. Means there’s no option to break the line. Turgid stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Pass it sideways a bit more i reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Zzzzzzzzzzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Can’t see us beating France so it probably is best for English football long term if we lose tonight and Southgate gets pressured out 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: We cannot get through the high press What high press? Senegal are just sitting their own half, barely moving for most of it. They’re not pressing us particularly. Our players just have no attacking movement themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Smallen said: We just need to be a bit more patient with the ball. That and the midfield have got to show better, stones and maguire have no options and either passing to each other, playing it long, or trying to thread it through the eye of a needle. Credit to Senegal though for shutting us right down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 Tough chance, good save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Great save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Pickfords rubbish remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Wp Pickford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Wtf is that from Saka?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 That was dumb from Maguire. Henderson presses, they smash it long and instead of letting it go through to regain possession, he heads it straight back to them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 That's a great save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK22 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 All over the place at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Decent save but awful stuff at the back again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: Overcoached, static, rigid nonsense It's the opposite, it's undercoached, like about 95% of international sides that don't play like top club sides even though their players are all that level 2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Looks like a textbook definition of an "alibi player" as my dad likes to say. Hides from the ball whenever possible, when he gets it just passes it to the next player. People are going to blame CBs for passing it around, but it's mostly on Rice for not knowing what to do. Mostly on the players ahead for offering no off the ball movement. Dribblers need to come deeper and make Senegal's defensive decision making difficult, as well as our playing out the back options better Although if they do come back they need to not give the ball away there ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Say what you like about Pickford - he's always been dependable for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Saka's set more Senegal attacks up than England attacks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santy001 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Senegal pressed for the first few minutes. Then they just realised they could sit 2-3 players in the line between defence and midfield. Rice & Henderson don't seem to realise they too are allowed to move either side of this line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Why does England have 3 players on each wing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Our midfield is set up all wrong, this is dire stuff really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smallen said: We just need to be a bit more patient with the ball. Don’t think we could be any more patient tbh. It’s pass it pointlessly side to side across defence 1,000 times football atm. I think we need to be way less patient and actually take some risks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, MIR17 said: What high press? Senegal are just sitting their own half, barely moving for most of it. They’re not pressing us particularly. Our players just have no attacking movement themselves Yeah, not much press here. Their front two are sitting in the passing lanes from CBs to Rice, and he's "hiding" behind them. He did the same thing against us. It's absolutely bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Rob probably thinks this England team is the equivalent of the 2011 Barca team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, enigmatic said: It's the opposite, it's undercoached, like about 95% of international sides that don't play like top club sides even though their players are all that level Mostly on the players ahead for offering no off the ball movement. Dribblers need to come deeper and make Senegal's defensive decision making difficult, as well as our playing out the back options better Although if they do come back they need to not give the ball away there ... By overcoached I mean the coach has instilled a tactic into them which clearly allows for no individual dynamism or fluidity. They have fixed roles that don’t work in practice and they’re not able to break out of it due to the rigidity he imposes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Another terrible pass out the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, aggressive minor said: Rob probably thinks this England team is the equivalent of the 2011 Barca team. Cmon, it's NT football. This is on par with peak Spain. I'd say take Kane out, but he's playing deeper than Fabregas did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Failey Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 England performances seem to be following a good/bad pattern. Like the footballing equivalent of Star Trek movies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I'm normally positive, but this has been horrendous so far. We're lucky it's nil nil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Rice is really, really annoying me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Dixon's solved it. Long ball to Kane ftw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ackter said: Why does England have 3 players on each wing? It worked for Argentina and Southgate thought it seemed a good idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 We really should bring Foden on. That’s the problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 That's an easy yellow. Come on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 That should be a yellow card Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Lucky lad there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Blatant yellow, not given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK22 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Yeah Walker should have been booked for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Pukey said: Rice is really, really annoying me. I think he's stupidly isolated in that central area, needs Henderson and Bellingham loads closer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 This is a case of getting to HT level now. Awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Walker doesn't seem fully fit, Sarr is doing whatever he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Get Walker off, she's having an absolute mare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Sandman Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Rashford to score 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Coulthard's Jaw said: I think he's stupidly isolated in that central area, needs Henderson and Bellingham loads closer. Been the same in every game. It’s ridiculous. Hasn’t worked once (I didn’t watch the Iran game to be fair) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Coulthard's Jaw said: I think he's stupidly isolated in that central area, needs Henderson and Bellingham loads closer. Rice isn't a player who can operate at the base, as the 'pivot', or whatever you want to call the role. Wasn't great there vs. Wales and he's not playing well there now. It's one of the big reasons why England's buildup has been so bad. Central defenders having to ignore him. Unfortunately I don't think England have an alternative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 GOOOOOOOOAAAALLLL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, MIR17 said: Don’t think we could be any more patient tbh. It’s pass it pointlessly side to side across defence 1,000 times football atm. I think we need to be way less patient and actually take some risks. Don’t agree. When we’ve tried to take risks and play through the lines it’s played right into their hands. The midfield or full backs have to come deeper/closer and offer more passing options as they’re man marking us in the middle third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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