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First time doing this challenge. Second year with Dulwich Hamlet. Somehow survived the first year with only 10 players, but now have some decent youth to fill out the team.

For this challenge - what are the rules around club affiliations? Can I set up a link with a bigger club and get players in that way? Or the challenge is literally only using regens that come through your club every spring? 

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1 hour ago, mschafer13 said:

First time doing this challenge. Second year with Dulwich Hamlet. Somehow survived the first year with only 10 players, but now have some decent youth to fill out the team.

For this challenge - what are the rules around club affiliations?  Or the challenge is literally only using regens that come through your club every spring? 

No transfers in of any kind

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1 hour ago, mschafer13 said:

First time doing this challenge. Second year with Dulwich Hamlet. Somehow survived the first year with only 10 players, but now have some decent youth to fill out the team.

For this challenge - what are the rules around club affiliations? Can I set up a link with a bigger club and get players in that way? Or the challenge is literally only using regens that come through your club every spring? 

You can have affiliates, but no loans or transfers or anything. The "In" part of the transfer history should be empty every season.

And your manager history should be this:

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So the only players you can use are players from the intake and the original squad. No one else, ever, no exceptions from loans or anything. Only academy players.

Clear enough? :D 

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On 12/08/2024 at 06:58, resurectedja said:

Congratulations @djsterry. I would recommend you try Argentina. I had a lot of fun doing Argetina. Finished in a record time. You get good teams with good facilities and dont really need to improve anything due to the high youth rating. Once you get into the Libertadores, which is easier than making it into the Champions League, you can improve stuff.

thanks @resurectedja will give it a go as indonesia is finished:lol:

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2 hours ago, XaW said:

You can have affiliates, but no loans or transfers or anything. The "In" part of the transfer history should be empty every season.

And your manager history should be this:

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So the only players you can use are players from the intake and the original squad. No one else, ever, no exceptions from loans or anything. Only academy players.

Clear enough? :D 

Phew - I'm in the clear still

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Aachen Season 4 Youth Intake

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3 X Elite Talents & 5 X Top Talents.

All but one of them are German.

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Dejan Dunjic is the stand out prospect here. Nice to see us get a good goalie especially as my other goalie is leaving on a free transfer at the end of the season.

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Aachen FC Season 4 Review

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Competitions

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A nice 7th place finish this season. We are getting back on track after the blip of last season. 

Finances

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We managed to stay out of the red this time thanks to having £8m at the end of last season. £5M of it coming from Other section in the income which looks a bit dodgy but who am I to complain lol.

With that extra money we were able to upgrade the training facilities. Our Youth Facilities initially got downgraded but we have convinced the board to upgrade the Youth Facilities which will be completed soon. We also now have Excellent academy coaching and Good Youth recruitment.

Facilities

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Best Players

Piotr Basta(S3YP5)

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Bastamania running wild brotha!!!

Basta really stepped up this season. Especially as a lot of players left or will be leaving when their contracts expire. He was our top goalscorer with 21 goals and he got 8 assists as well. He also had the best average rating of 7.16

Sadly he wants us to improve the squad before he commits to a new contract. 

If I get a decent offer I will accept but I am hoping he changes his mind and commits to us.

Manuel Wimmer(S1YP4)

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Wimmer was another one of our stand out players with 10 assists and 5 goals. Also a very good average rating of 6.98.

Hopefully next season we get into the Play Offs.

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Ashanti Gold update - Cancelled

 

Sorry if anyone was enjoying this (doubt it as it was very early days :D ), but I don't think the database I used plays well for Youth Academy challenges.

 

My first season in the top league and I breezed the league and qualified for the champions league - then in the champions league, the next season (this is my fourth season) we got to the final and lost. We out classed the other team and it just didn't feel like a "challenge" it felt like I would win it in the next year and as it was a custom database it didn't feel right to keep updating it...so I am going to move on to a different league, which is in the vanilla game. 

 

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Question for the experts:

If your team doesn't have an U-18 team - do you still get youth intakes? I have started with a team in England but no U-18 team, I don't want to go most of the way through the year to find out we won't get any newgens through.

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we go again, decided to pick the worst team available 10000-1 pre season odds:lol:

 

A bit of an unusual background to the club- formed by a Bus company, 

The Club Mutual Crucero del Norte, was born as an idea more than two decades ago, when employees of the company and the Koropeski family, participated and followed the alternatives of the indoor soccer team, which won numerous local, provincial and national tournaments, with outstanding participations in South American championships.

Given the repercussion that this enthusiastic training was taking, directors of the transport company together with a group of collaborators, began to give shape to this idea, that of a club of their own, where the employees' families have their space for leisure, recreation and sports.

 

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1 hour ago, naterr said:

Question for the experts:

If your team doesn't have an U-18 team - do you still get youth intakes? I have started with a team in England but no U-18 team, I don't want to go most of the way through the year to find out we won't get any newgens through.

Yes, as long as the club has anything other than "none" in youth recruitment and youth coaching, you get intakes. Of course, lacking a U18 team will put them into any other team you have, but that's about it.

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16 minutes ago, XaW said:

Yes, as long as the club has anything other than "none" in youth recruitment and youth coaching, you get intakes. Of course, lacking a U18 team will put them into any other team you have, but that's about it.

Thanks!

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Naterr Garcia - Barwell FC

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Facilities ain't looking great!

This is the third team I have tried recently in England - fired twice early on with Salisbury, and then Lancaster City.

Posting now as I survived the first season! 

Loving the lovely neon green kit with yellow pinstripes, perfection in kit form!  

 

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31 minutes ago, naterr said:

We managed to get £450k, with 50% profit on next sell too. Incredible!

However he is worth a lot more now.

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I think this is a good thing, hopefully they sell him and we make funds off him. I have added him to the shortlist to keep track of his career.

Fantastic first year sale!

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25 minutes ago, WhiteCat33 said:

Fantastic first year sale!

Yeah that was pretty lucky!

I had resigned myself to getting like 10k for him, I just wanted the sell on clause, but clubs just kept coming back with more and more.

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4 minutes ago, XaW said:

While I am enjoying Follo, I remembered how much I dislike the spring-autumn type seasons.... So I decided to head back to England. I was thinking about the Caribbean, but I can hear England calling me again, and I still feel I have unfinished business here...

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All the best.  The club where you have had the most success I believe.

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6 minutes ago, DazRTaylor said:

All the best.  The club where you have had the most success I believe.

Indeed, but it was a while ago...

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BUILDING FOUNDATIONS IN SEASON 3

A promising season which saw us finish 2nd in the league to a far superior Hajduk side, reaching the final of the Croatian Cup to lose to Hajduk and reaching the round of 16 in the Europa Conference League. I've been bleeding a few of the youngsters this season but their overall performances haven't been that great and we are very much still relying on the original cast. I'm not concerned at this stage but I'd like to see the youth step their performances up in the next season as we are probably about 3 years away from the transition from original squad to youth players in the XI being in full swing. A number of or youth players are involved in the national setup at the youth level which is also encouraging.

I dabbled with a few formations this year as alternatives with the 4-3-3 DM Wide still being the first choice, 4-2-3-1 Wide as the back-up then adding a 4-2-4 Wide as the third choice. The main strength in our team is one the wings and in particular Filip Vajdovčić who on the right wing scored 16 in 37 appearances and 8 assists.

Hajduk are simply way too good at this moment in time and for now I am happy to sit in the shadows building up the quality within the squad and continue to improve our facilities and second place this year was a bonus. We had been in that position most of the season but in the last 5 games we really started to dip in form and played Hajduk 3 times in a row in the cup (2 leg final) and in the league losing 2 and drawing 1. Luckily we held out and got the Europa League spot.

In Europe we scraped into the Europa Conference proper after beating FC Nordsjælland 4-1 at home in the first league we collapsed in the second leg and lost it 4-1 but managed to crawl over the line with a win on penalties. The draw in the league was really rather favourable allowing us to pick up 11 points from 18 and qualify for the knock out play offs where we played IF Elfsborg who we drew with in the league phase at their ground and a narrow win drew us against Sparta Prague who were just too strong and who put Dinamo Zagreb out in the quarter final on penalties after dumping us out.

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The club is ticking along very nicely with the facilities now improving, finances are boosted by the European money, season tickets and average attendance all increasing. Our reputation home and abroad continues to improve well ahead of schedule.

I am still frustrated by the U17 rule but it just means a few more years until I reach a point of being able to fully embed the youth in the first team but the U19s team having no fixtures is still a real pain as I'm having to arrange friendlies. If the youth facilities gets maxed then the youth players will have the best facilities here at the club but no match time unless I manually schedule fixtures for them as the current settings for the U19s friendlies just won't work.

League Results
Domestic Cup Results
European Results 
and League

Youth Intake

I got a Scottish Elite talent this year in the intake and he looks a fairly promising prospect, the question is whether he is deemed good enough to play when he hits 16. It actually seems a little bit of a cheat because if a player is allowed to play when they are 16 it suggests their potential is better than the 16 year olds that can't play. However, this assumes that the game is using the actual potential ratings and isn't just guesstimating it based on other attributes.

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Youth Intake Preview

Euan McLeod Y3-A
Sven Horkas Y3-A
Vito Hoic Y3-A
Hrvoje Dramac Y3-A
Maks Hranjec Y3-A
Sven Pasaricek Y3-A
Zinedin Bajramovic Y3-A

Although the intake shows McLeod as the best player coming through I really like Hrovje Dramac Y3-A. He's already made his debut this season and as I mentioned with him being 16 this must mean he has a lot of potential (relatively speaking). He also has professional personality and is already improving from his short time at the club.

The intake didn't give me much quality on the left wing as it was primarily dominated by central midfielders and defenders with a few on the right. Left back still troubles me as there is no obvious player coming through but luckily my current 2 players at left back are 25 and 24 so I may have a few years to spare in getting a quality player come through in that position.

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Club News

A very good year as far as the club was concerned with coaching courses and improvements being approved by the board with a small amount of persuading involved.

Continental A Coaching Course
Junior Coaching Budget Increase 1
Junior Coaching Budget Increase 2
Training Facilities Improvement
Youth Training Facilities Improvement
Youth Recruitment Improvement

 

In other news the number of Champions League places was increased which is very pleasing to see given Hajduk don't look like giving up first place anytime soon.

Squad News

The squad is still largely as it was with a few of the youth players starting to rack up appearances and experience. It's very unusual for me to just be arriving at this point 3 seasons in as I'd usually look to blood youngsters at the end of season 1 and fully in season 2 so its taking some time to adjust to delaying things a year or two.

Squad Profile

The best eleven shows we aren't performing that great overall despite getting the results to take us to second but as long as I start to see steady improvements over the next few seasons I won't be overly concerned by this.

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Bingo Card

Another 2 targets marked off for the European progress this year. Continental A license will come next year and I'd expect the 50 club appearances will also be hit.

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FM23 Barbados YAC: Road View FC

2071 Season 49 – BFA Digicel Premier League

 

 

League Performance:

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Cup Performance:

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North American Champions League:

Caribbean Zone:

We had our worst performance in the NACL in decades as we failed to advance out of our group. Completely manager error as I didn't properly see out a game and we got blown out with final minute goals. What happens when you play too late and don't pay attention...

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NACL Tournament Tree:

Monterrey actually lost a final!

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NACL Standings: 

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Squad:

CA Player List:

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Excel Graphs:

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I've increased the number of Resolute players, but overall Determination is still lower than our historical average.

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Probably won't ever re-export to fix the CD issue in the past years. You can see the past 2 years are correct with the others. With loaning out of depth you can see in the bottom right that there is a noticeable uptick in the quality of our starting players.

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CA & RA Tables:

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Team is looking fantastic right now! With the development of my young CAM strikers have really improved so our front line might be the best composition to date. Even being old my GK is compensating with great technical skill.

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Squad Role Ability rounds up to 63, which is a new high! Really like to see the strikers getting above 65, which shows how we might finally have the danger up top to threaten the Mexican giants.

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Player Highlights:

Transfers:

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After our early exit from the NACL I aggressively loaned players out. I'll be letting a number go on free's / non-contract this summer as well.

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Best XI:

Excel Tables:

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Head Coach:

 No Change

Club Improvements:

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Youth Academy:

HOYD:

No Change

Youth Intake Preview:

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Youth Intake:

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Top 3 Players:

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This year is all about the CDs. We got 2 with good personalities and 1 starts off with great current ability.

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Then we have a fast midfielder, who could be a decent depth winger if he develops.

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And more FB depth is always welcome

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Excel Tables & Graphs: Part I

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Everything's fine here.

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Not only do we have a top 10 ever talent in this intake, but the depth of talent this year is almost our best ever.

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The Driven CD is #5 on our all-time highest skilled intake player!

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Excel Tables & Graphs: Part II

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Really bummed the GK is so bad right now. My starter is that 2050 spike and he's 37...

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Obviously, I didn't make the new graphs. It's down on the to-do list.

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At the rate the personalities are occurring I should drop below 10% Fairly professional in the next few intakes. Light-Hearted is continuing to rise showing the influence of the Model Citizen. On the upside Unambitious has dropped below 25% for the first time this save with an intake almost devoid of them!

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Affiliates are showing their value. Only Martinique has failed to produce a youngster now, and I've gotten 7 total: 1 good prospect (CHI), 1 okay prospect (URU) and the rest meh.

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Excel Tables & Graphs: Future Analysis

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As I prepare for my next save in Martinique I've been working on adding additional data-points to track throughout the save. One obvious one is City & Nation of Birth. I'd like the challenge in my next save of generating a player form every possible town in Martinique. Since I don't have longitudinal data yet here is the raw data & simple bar graph:

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For the next save I plan to add in Club Data & HOYD Data to eventually be able to directly compare youth intake outcomes over time as the facilities improve. I "limited" myself to 10 variables for the Club & Hoyd to track. Idea is I just change the selectors when progress occurs and the data is automatically added to the year-end export line for Team & Youth. I'm out to Column HM on the yearly export, so it's becoming a pretty large dataset I'm automatically generating.

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I've built a full Academy Intake database, but haven't finished any analysis with it yet. Big news that we crossed the 800 mark of players produced from the club! Long term objective is to use these initial CA data points for current player development (like what is in the game).

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Thanks to @Neo_Geo I've built my Bingo for Martinique! Here's a fun teaser of the bottom right objectives:

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Barbados National Team:

A year of friendlies, so nothing exciting to report.

Road View Internationals:

Barbados Main:

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Barbados Youth:

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Summary

I'm losing steam in Barbados especially after such a boring season without NACL matches. I used all that holiday time between matches to work towards getting the excel file ready for the next Caribbean adventure. This next season will be my final attempt at the NACL title with Road View (at least for the time being). The team is very good right now as long as my Goalkeeper just keeps on trucking. Yes, his Speed/Agility are dead but he can still jump and has okay balance, so isn't a liability in goal. 

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I plan to play till I get eliminated from the continental competition and then do a 50-year roundup of my Caribbean World. I want to establish how good/bad the leagues I have loaded developed into here to set the bar high for Martinique.

What program do you use to compile the data for the excel charts?  

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Just now, iamnobody said:

What program do you use to compile the data for the excel charts?  

It's all in one massive excel file. I use the standard game export with a custom view to get the raw data out as webpages, which can be opened with excel. Each one gets added into the workbook and then I have a rough-and-ready manual selection to switch between Years & Team / Youth / Opposition. This copies the raw data into a temporary Data-sheet, which is then used by all the formulas.

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I then have a worksheet to export the analysis into longitudinal secondary datasets. I currently do 4 exports. The top green line twice for Youth & Team. Blue line once for all time player records (still in development). Then Purple 16 lines into a Youth Intake Player record (no analysis yet). It could be done with Macros, but I'm just manually doing it right now [hence why I haven't gone back and re-exported the Team data].

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If I find the motivation, this would be a perfect reason to learn how to use Access to set up a proper database of all this data. I used it back in college, but as the years go by it gets harder to remember what to do...

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3 minutes ago, WhiteCat33 said:

It's all in one massive excel file. I use the standard game export with a custom view to get the raw data out as webpages, which can be opened with excel. Each one gets added into the workbook and then I have a rough-and-ready manual selection to switch between Years & Team / Youth / Opposition. This copies the raw data into a temporary Data-sheet, which is then used by all the formulas.

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I then have a worksheet to export the analysis into longitudinal secondary datasets. I currently do 4 exports. The top green line twice for Youth & Team. Blue line once for all time player records (still in development). Then Purple 16 lines into a Youth Intake Player record (no analysis yet). It could be done with Macros, but I'm just manually doing it right now [hence why I haven't gone back and re-exported the Team data].

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If I find the motivation, this would be a perfect reason to learn how to use Access to set up a proper database of all this data. I used it back in college, but as the years go by it gets harder to remember what to do...

Did you make the excel file yourself or is it available as a download somewhere?

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4 minutes ago, iamnobody said:

Did you make the excel file yourself or is it available as a download somewhere?

It's my Frankenstein creation :). Old version from the Winter is on Mediafire: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z6k77x3z9wj9z/WhiteCatStats

When I start Martinique, I'll upload an updated version with the many improvements I've added this summer. My Moneyball Statistics spreadsheet is in that folder as well. Can be helpful if you're playing in a bigger country where it's not a rocket-ship to the top of the domestic league. Look up my St Louis City Moneyball career save if you're interested in how that one works.

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2 minutes ago, WhiteCat33 said:

It's my Frankenstein creation :). Old version from the Winter is on Mediafire: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z6k77x3z9wj9z/WhiteCatStats

When I start Martinique, I'll upload an updated version with the many improvements I've added this summer. My Moneyball Statistics spreadsheet is in that folder as well. Can be helpful if you're playing in a bigger country where it's not a rocket-ship to the top of the domestic league. Look up my St Louis City Moneyball career save if you're interested in how that one works.

I might need to check that out. Thanks for providing the link.  I'm curious about how Martinique will go.

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1 minute ago, iamnobody said:

I might need to check that out. Thanks for providing the link.  I'm curious about how Martinique will go.

I'm happy to share, and hope it helps in your save! 

It currently doesn't have any instructions on how to use the spreadsheet, so documentation will be part of my project this weekend to get the spreadsheet done for Martinique.

With how I set up the game for Martinique [I already have the team & played pre-season] I think it's going to be way harder than Barbados, and you have seen my struggles here.

  1. Financially Martinique is weaker than Barbados. Even in 2071 only the top 2-3 teams make enough money to remain professional. The rest build up big balances, go professional then go broke and revert to semi-pro.
  2. Road View is in Bridgeview, which is a 100k person city in Barbados while any possible team to select in Martinique is from a village under 10k population. The one I got is a 2500 population surfing town.
  3.  I enabled France, England & The Netherlands. All Youth Intake players are dual-citizen Martinique - France, so count as domestic players for French & Dutch clubs. The key to winning from the Caribbean is retaining 100% of your star intake players. It will be near impossible to do this in Martinique

But I can't resist the possibility of winning the French Cup from Martinique, so that's why I'm choosing the nation over a more viable country like Trinidad & Tobago. 

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4 hours ago, WhiteCat33 said:

But I can't resist the possibility of winning the French Cup from Martinique,

Now that will be something... Good luck with this one!

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2036

Table | Squad | Transfers

Started the season in ok form where the team was drawing a bit and not really getting the results they should but some points above the relegation spots, In the 2nd half of the season the team lost all form with the defense a mess and all the players out of form. Gained only 8 points from the last 13 games to get relegated on the last day. Board feedback was down to F but wasn't sacked. Several of my players now want to leave of course.

Finances went down a bit due to increased costs although i squeezed an extra coach from the board, a rare approved request.

Johansson was one of the few players who really raised his game to lead the line and his drop in form was instrumental  in the teams poor form. As a result i let Strom (117 apps, 32 goals)go at the end of the season.

I also got rid of Abdirahman (136 apps)  whose poor performances had got too much, he never really improved after coming through. Olsen retired and Nadin left who had been longtime players.

The preview was the best yet and led to an intake where some players were not too far off the first team. Ali looks good but the team is strong in CM, Fors also has a lot to like on first look. The team is really weak in defense and GK so Petersson has some good attributes but could do with improving especially quickness.

Its 10 years since the 26 intake came though and only 1 player has made an significant impact. Rated with only 2 star potential when coming through, Athanasiou has been the mainstay of the midfield for years although has developed a negative personality in the last few season. A few other players made a handful of appearances before leaving and then retiring.

Spoiler

Youth Nationalities:

Continent

Europe

Africa

South America

Asia

North America

Oceania

Overall

192

100%

Country

#

%

Country

#

%

Country

#

%

Country

#

%

Country

#

%

Country

#

%

Europe

181.16

94.35%

Sweden

170.33

88.71%

Eritrea

1.5

0.78%

Uruguay

1

0.52%

Iraq

1

0.52%

Jamaica

0.83

0.43%

     

Africa

5.5

2.86%

Greece

2

1.04%

Gambia

1

0.52%

Chile

1

0.52%

Palestine

0.5

0.26%

USA

0.5

0.26%

     

Asia

2

1.04%

Bosnia

2

1.04%

Somalia

0.5

0.26%

     

Japan

0.5

0.26%

           

South America

2

1.04%

Turkey

1.5

0.78%

Niger

0.5

0.26%

                       

North America

1.33

0.69%

Albania

1

0.52%

Nigeria

0.5

0.26%

                       

Oceania

0

0

Italy

1

0.52%

Egypt

0.5

0.26%

                       
     

Serbia

1

0.52%

DRC

0.5

0.26%

                       
     

Kosovo

1

0.52%

Ghana

0.5

0.26%

                       
     

England

0.83

0.43%

                             
     

Finland

0.5

0.26%

                             
           
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
                                         
Spoiler

Season

League

Position

Swedish Cup

Europe

Top Scorer

Top Assists

Attendance

Training

Youth

Junior

Youth Rec

Notes

2025

D2 WG

5th

Not entered

N/A

Arvidsson,Messaoudi (8)

Jensen(6)

261

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2026

D2 WG

5th

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (11)

Warmlov(6)

251

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2027

D2 WG

6th

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (10)

Lai(9)

261

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2028

D2 WG

10th

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (15)

Messaoudi (7)

241

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2029

D2 WG

7th

Not entered

N/A

Strom - 27j (11)

Athanasiou -26p (7)

250

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2030

D2 WG

9th

Not entered

N/A

Lai(12)

Noren -28k (5)

267

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2031

D2 WG

8th

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (14)

Lai(5)

277

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2032

D2 WG

8th

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (15)

Babatunde- 29h (6)

275

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2033

D2 WG

5th

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (19)

Sjoqvist(8)

289

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2034

D2 WG

6th

Not entered

N/A

Strom - 27j (12)

Sjoqvist(7)

287

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

 

2035

D2 WG

1st

Not entered

N/A

Keymer-25c (16)

Noren -28k (10)

321

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

Promoted

2036

D1S

14th

Not entered

N/A

Johansson-29j (14)

Athanasiou -26p (5)

338

Basic

Basic

Fairly Basic

Limited

Relegated

 

Youth Name

All time apps

 

Youth Name

All time Goals

 

Youth Name

All time Assists

Roger Gustafsson (25e)

276

 

Ted Keymer (25c)

123

 

Manolis Athanasiou (26p)

37

Mathias Sandin (25d)

246

 

Milton Strom (27j)

34

 

Marcus Noren (28k)

32

Ted Keymer (25c)

242

 

Manolis Athanasiou (26p)

29

 

Ted Keymer (25c)

21

Manolis Athanasiou (26p)

228

 

Marcus Noren (28k)

26

 

Martin Tahiri (30i)

21

Marcus Noren (28k)

151

 

Martin Tahiri (30i)

22

 

Kingsley Babatunde (29h)

15

 

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