Jono Cpfc Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 when will it end??? yeah sure, have my best player on loan, only pay 40% of his wages thats fine, and sure you can have him for 30m at the end of it when ill be able to get double in the summer if i ever decide to sell..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costav Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jono Cpfc said: when will it end??? yeah sure, have my best player on loan, only pay 40% of his wages thats fine, and sure you can have him for 30m at the end of it when ill be able to get double in the summer if i ever decide to sell..... One question: when you want to buy other players, do you usually make offers matching (or increasing) the transfer value or do you try to gain the best possible deal for you (even starting from a lower point to reach an agreement in the middle)? Edited April 16 by Costav 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Phillips Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I've tried to get an answer on the bug tracker page but to no avail, now the main winter update broke a fee things in the game that weren't fixed in the Final Update. Does anyone reckon there will be any more spot fixes for FM24 or is that SI washing their hands with it now and caring only about FM25? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) After the scheduling talks in here, it's like the game is doing it on purpose to wind me up now loool Flamengo and us may as well set up a mini league haha Edited April 17 by RDF Tactics 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal585 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said: After the scheduling talks in here, it's like the game is doing it on purpose to wind me up now loool Please tell me your game plan is to play the B Team in the first game and tell them all to play super aggressively. Trade a few red cards for their best players suffering unfortunate incidents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Cal585 said: Please tell me your game plan is to play the B Team in the first game and tell them all to play super aggressively. Trade a few red cards for their best players suffering unfortunate incidents. I mean, you’re on to something. Go into the first legs letting them think they’ve won the tie. Get them tired (injured haha) and roll over them in the 2nd legs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK-555 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Is it me or is there reduced amount of injuries since the update? I hardly get injuries and when I do they just little 1-3 day niggles, not seen a serious long term injury for 2 seasons now, most serious 5-6 weeks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnleegriffin Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 23 hours ago, RDF Tactics said: I mean, you’re on to something. Go into the first legs letting them think they’ve won the tie. Get them tired (injured haha) and roll over them in the 2nd legs Watching you live on stream and thought I would send you this that has just happened, not scripted huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasBR Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 17/04/2024 at 08:56, RDF Tactics said: After the scheduling talks in here, it's like the game is doing it on purpose to wind me up now loool Flamengo and us may as well set up a mini league haha I’m playing in Brazil as well, played against Botafogo on the Copa do Brasil twice in a week, this never happens irl and it gets worse because the série A has already started, SI doesn’t give a damn about other leagues than the Europeans and some others that are officially licensed. They didn’t even care to update the number of subs in Copa do Brasil LMAO Absolutely shameful 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I have'nt played FM24 since, like, December. Not because I think it's bad, on the contrary, but because I have'nt had the time or energy to immerse myself into a save. Now I'm thinking about picking it up again, but I've seen rumors that the game AI does'nt develope talents. At all. Can anyone confirm this is true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CAE82 Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, Viking said: I have'nt played FM24 since, like, December. Not because I think it's bad, on the contrary, but because I have'nt had the time or energy to immerse myself into a save. Now I'm thinking about picking it up again, but I've seen rumors that the game AI does'nt develope talents. At all. Can anyone confirm this is true? I can't confirm or deny this is true, I can only give an example from my save. Below is the career of Lesley Ugochukwu in 29/30. Using the IGE I can see he has a PA of Spoiler 170 and a CA of Spoiler 127 It's clear his career has been a waste and he's barely developed. Of course, there is no saying he is going to be anything special IRL but a human FM manager should have turned him into a world-beater by 2029. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hzano123 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, CAE82 said: I can't confirm or deny this is true, I can only give an example from my save. Below is the career of Lesley Ugochukwu in 29/30. Using the IGE I can see he has a PA of Hide contents 170 and a CA of Hide contents 127 It's clear his career has been a waste and he's barely developed. Of course, there is no saying he is going to be anything special IRL but a human FM manager should have turned him into a world-beater by 2029. I think it doesn't AI Manager fault. I actually think it's player (not you) fault. They should have kick a fuss and asked to be play regular on the second chelsea season. Blud should not stay in Chelsea for freaking 4 seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tezcatlipoca665 Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, Viking said: I have'nt played FM24 since, like, December. Not because I think it's bad, on the contrary, but because I have'nt had the time or energy to immerse myself into a save. Now I'm thinking about picking it up again, but I've seen rumors that the game AI does'nt develope talents. At all. Can anyone confirm this is true? Davincid's FM24 mods are the closest you'll get to forcing the AI managers to develop young players, and it's mostly because the mods increase both injuries and player fatigue across the board, which pushes AI managers into playing youth in more first-team games than the vanilla version of the game. Other than that, after having tested the vanilla game multiple times - no, the AI doesn't develop talents. There's a strange and somewhat regular occurrence of national teams prioritizing youth players with high potential by calling them up to their first-team squads, even if they haven't played any league games for their respective clubs, though. It's like they're programmed to call up one or two token players that way. Edited April 19 by tezcatlipoca665 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigogc Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 As far as I know the AI prioritizes Reputation when deciding who to pick in the first eleven, hence youngsters not being developed and old tired players being kept in the squad. Seems like the same reason for both occurrences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK-555 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 58 minutes ago, tezcatlipoca665 said: Davincid's FM24 mods are the closest you'll get to forcing the AI managers to develop young players, and it's mostly because the mods increase both injuries and player fatigue across the board, which pushes AI managers into playing youth in more first-team games than the vanilla version of the game. Other than that, after having tested the vanilla game multiple times - no, the AI doesn't develop talents. There's a strange and somewhat regular occurrence of national teams prioritizing youth players with high potential by calling them up to their first-team squads, even if they haven't played any league games for their respective clubs, though. It's like they're programmed to call up one or two token players that way. I use Davecid mod without injury file and the AI still develops talents. Warren Emery had like 39 starts for PSG at 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshMourinho Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 The wording of the inside forward's role feels rather jumbled to me. "With a Support duty the Inside Forward will cut diagonally into the space behind the defence and play through balls or take long shots if the opportunity arises." "With an Attack duty, the Inside Forward will run directly directly at the defence with the options of shooting, passing or crossing as he moves into the final third." I'd have thought the attack duty would be the one running in behind the defence, and you'd have thought a player running in behind the defence would be focusing on more one on one opportunities as opposed to taking long shots? In my mind it's the support duty that should be running "directly at the defence" surely? They both have the exact same PI's locked in but the descriptions could still use some work imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RDF Tactics Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 9 hours ago, LucasBR said: I’m playing in Brazil as well, played against Botafogo on the Copa do Brasil twice in a week, this never happens irl and it gets worse because the série A has already started, SI doesn’t give a damn about other leagues than the Europeans and some others that are officially licensed. They didn’t even care to update the number of subs in Copa do Brasil LMAO Absolutely shameful It's one reason why I've stopped reporting things now. It's clear something weird happens with scheduling. After sending so many examples of teams having the same fixture list and the frequency of teams playing each other back-to-back - I get told basically nothing is wrong there. I stream. It takes me, literally, 2mins to show my viewers the schedules from leagues all around the world and how often it happens. I even sent them (SI) a screen recording of me opening FM, and starting a new save, look at Everton and Brentford fixtures and see they have the same fixture list. Little effort to reproduce it but somehow, hard for them to see an issue. Got to show some care in this area after so many years. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hzano123 Posted April 20 Popular Post Share Posted April 20 5 hours ago, SHK-555 said: I use Davecid mod without injury file and the AI still develops talents. Warren Emery had like 39 starts for PSG at 18 The main thing is that Davecide added multiple award ( like best young player of the week, month, year), best players in reserve competitions, etc.... This artifically create hype and boost reputation of young players like in real life and ironically make them organically being chosen able by the AI Manager since they focus way too much on reputation. That's quite damn smart 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CAE82 Posted April 20 Popular Post Share Posted April 20 Endrick is another example: To be fair, he's still developed. Here he is at 23 years-old (note that he's got more appearances for Brazil than Real, which ties in with what @tezcatlipoca665 says above) But this is clearly more through training/staff/facilities and playing for Brazil rather than game time with Real Madrid He has a PA of Spoiler 186 so should really be Pele by this point. Despite not playing him they've just given him a new long-term contract on big money, so unless they suddenly start picking him then he'll end up being 27 years-old with 100 Brazil caps and about 10 senior appearances for Madrid. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti Ago Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) In my save is a starter (27/28) Evaluated at 200 M with PSG allways on the matchs Edited April 20 by Ti Ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigmoore02 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Anyone else feel like the number of FM-ings has increased since the last update? Probably a false positive on my part, as it feels unlikely this would happen, but it feels like the amount of times I'm massively up on XG then the AI has 1 or 2 shots on target and scores every time has gone up. The odd result like this is obviously fine as that does happen but it feels so frequent at the moment. Pretty much every single loss I've had is the same way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasBR Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 15 hours ago, RDF Tactics said: It's one reason why I've stopped reporting things now. It's clear something weird happens with scheduling. After sending so many examples of teams having the same fixture list and the frequency of teams playing each other back-to-back - I get told basically nothing is wrong there. I stream. It takes me, literally, 2mins to show my viewers the schedules from leagues all around the world and how often it happens. I even sent them (SI) a screen recording of me opening FM, and starting a new save, look at Everton and Brentford fixtures and see they have the same fixture list. Little effort to reproduce it but somehow, hard for them to see an issue. Got to show some care in this area after so many years. It’s not worth it spending your time to give them a helluva of stuff to get improved and they didn’t even care to look. A ton of stuff have been happening year after year, even the community point out stuff and nothing’s changed 🤷🏻 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK-555 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 16 hours ago, Hzano123 said: The main thing is that Davecide added multiple award ( like best young player of the week, month, year), best players in reserve competitions, etc.... This artifically create hype and boost reputation of young players like in real life and ironically make them organically being chosen able by the AI Manager since they focus way too much on reputation. That's quite damn smart No I don't use that file either, I think it's the staff attribute adjustment and youth rating game importance file which does it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showerman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 13/04/2024 at 13:53, Showerman said: Anyone else feel its impossible to not win a championship on the last day ? With 6 games to go I lost to spurs away to go level on pts, with 2 games to go I lost at home to Brentford for spurs to go 3 pts clear with better GD. Last game I needed a win, Spurs loss and a shift in GD. This happened.... Which made me think in the previous update I had a leicester save where I won a title in the last gameweek twice overhauling GD. Maybe not.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 vor 15 Stunden schrieb SHK-555: No I don't use that file either, I think it's the staff attribute adjustment and youth rating game importance file which does it nope, it's mainly awards + some other files to a small degree. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigogc Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Is there gonna be a new update or will I have to wait for FM25 for good ? Edited April 21 by Rodrigogc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotsworthy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 19/04/2024 at 15:48, Viking said: I have'nt played FM24 since, like, December. Not because I think it's bad, on the contrary, but because I have'nt had the time or energy to immerse myself into a save. Now I'm thinking about picking it up again, but I've seen rumors that the game AI does'nt develope talents. At all. Can anyone confirm this is true? I think you can break up youth development into two separate issues: game balance and immersion. I've ran several test saves and in my opinion in terms of game balance the game is significantly better than FM22/FM23 and if you started a long term save the ratio of young/old elite players is consistent. Once you start looking under the hood or at specific players/clubs then you will see some oddities that might break immersion (like the national teams issue mentioned above). On 20/04/2024 at 08:46, CAE82 said: Endrick is another example: It does seem like certain clubs still have some issues with managing their young players (PSG is terrible). That said I also think in this players case he should have demanded a move. Young players are too passive. One thing I will say is that looking at specific players isn't always helpful, because as you progress through a save the number of high PA players increases. (For example, you might have just 2-3 190PA players at the start of the game and 9-10 players ten years in) So it's not optimal for all players to reach their potential. Plus then the player might have a bad personality, got unlucky with his progression etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 37 minutes ago, Rodrigogc said: Is there gonna be a new update or will I have to wait for FM25 for good ? There are no further updates planned for FM24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineCloudNine Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 17 minutes ago, Dotsworthy said: It does seem like certain clubs still have some issues with managing their young players (PSG is terrible). Until their very recent change of emphasis and the emergence of a generational talent in Zaire-Emery, PSG have been legendarily bad at bringing on young players IRL too. The difference is, as you say, that players like Kingsley Coman didn’t stay around but pushed for moves, which doesn’t seem to happen in FM. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHK-555 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 6 hours ago, Daveincid said: nope, it's mainly awards + some other files to a small degree. I didn't know that, I use nik33 version of awards which I'm guessing also helps increase the reputation of youth players adds like 160 new awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Well, I can confirm that docking points is indeed possible in the game. I'm in 2029 and about to start the season and Sheffield Wednesday just got docked 12 points for going into administration. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotsworthy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 4 hours ago, NineCloudNine said: Until their very recent change of emphasis and the emergence of a generational talent in Zaire-Emery, PSG have been legendarily bad at bringing on young players IRL too. The difference is, as you say, that players like Kingsley Coman didn’t stay around but pushed for moves, which doesn’t seem to happen in FM. Yeah for sure. With PSR rules as they are I think most clubs have an incentive to develop youth, even if it's just for pure profit to balance the books. But if all clubs are highly efficient at youth development that breaks immersion also. It's hard to get the balance right and I don't envy FM in how they go about it. You can very easily bork the game and have 2000 premier League U21 players with transfer requests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti Ago Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 26 minutos atrás, XaW disse: Well, I can confirm that docking points is indeed possible in the game. I'm in 2029 and about to start the season and Sheffield Wednesday just got docked 12 points for going into administration. Wheres can I find the press officer id? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 25 minutes ago, XaW said: Well, I can confirm that docking points is indeed possible in the game. I'm in 2029 and about to start the season and Sheffield Wednesday just got docked 12 points for going into administration. As a Wednesday fan this is one element of realism I’d happily do without…..😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Ti Ago said: Wheres can I find the press officer id? I got the skin from @TCSSkin, which allows me to click on the picture and it shows, like this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, janrzm said: As a Wednesday fan this is one element of realism I’d happily do without…..😂 Sorry about that, I just like the feature and your team happened to be the (un)lucky one! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, XaW said: Sorry about that, I just like the feature and your team happened to be the (un)lucky one! I like that the feature exists, it’s very necessary. Football is increasingly interspersed with one off dynamic events and it helps make saves feel less generic. I raised a feature request last week along similar lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 12 hours ago, janrzm said: As a Wednesday fan this is one element of realism I’d happily do without…..😂 As a Barnsley fan however... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) The whole fan/ board feedback thing is still a joke then. C from the board and E from the fans....with a 6/7th place finish, EFL Cup win and final of the FA Cup and UEFA Cup, for Newcastle 1st season. I'd be ****ing idolised by fans at least Edited April 22 by aiston 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, kiwityke1983 said: As a Barnsley fan however... Mate,at times this season I’ve wished we lost that playoff final….. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 10 minutes ago, janrzm said: Mate,at times this season I’ve wished we lost that playoff final….. If VAR did it's job for once you would have done. I'm not bitter nope not at all 😂 I imagine we'd have competed with Rotherham to see who was worse had we gone up. I dread next season if Collins stays been an absolute shambles of a season where we've found ourselves in a false position based on performances for 3/4ths of a season and results have started matching in the last quarter IE been abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Popular Post Zachary Whyte Posted April 22 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted April 22 23 hours ago, Dotsworthy said: I've ran several test saves and in my opinion in terms of game balance the game is significantly better than FM22/FM23 and if you started a long term save the ratio of young/old elite players is consistent. It does seem like certain clubs still have some issues with managing their young players (PSG is terrible). To throw some examples from my saves the AI certainly focus more on playing/buying youth players compared to FM22/FM23. Guler becoming a first-team player for Madrid, Liverpool going all in on very young Yamal was cool to see, PSG playing Xavi Simons & Zaïre-Emery consistently, international teams calling up younger players (Kobbie Mainoo & Archie Gray for England is an example I've spotted) Overall we're happy with the improvements made for FM24, it is a system that can be improved and if you see examples please raise them to us. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenjamin Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 I see penalties still haven't been fixed. My striker with 19 for penalty taking has now missed 3 in a row. I also see the bug for tactics for managing underage international sides being reset every time a game is loaded hasn't been fixed either despite being reported. What is the point in reporting simple bugs like this when they're never fixed? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti Ago Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 18 horas atrás, XaW disse: I got the skin from @TCSSkin, which allows me to click on the picture and it shows, like this: Can you help me here ? I did the config file , clear cache , reload skin , but the face didn't Change . What am I doing wrong ? Edit: Nevermind , forgot to add the "r-" Edited April 22 by Ti Ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, glenjamin said: I see penalties still haven't been fixed. My striker with 19 for penalty taking has now missed 3 in a row. I also see the bug for tactics for managing underage international sides being reset every time a game is loaded hasn't been fixed either despite being reported. What is the point in reporting simple bugs like this when they're never fixed? Penalty alone means nothing; Finishing & Composure is being connected with Penalty attribute. Also, it depends of the situation during the game. For me, I am experience the opposite: I can't see missing penalties; maybe due to morale management. Attributes wise, isn't something special; like 11-12-12. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 39 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: Penalty alone means nothing; Finishing & Composure is being connected with Penalty attribute. Also, it depends of the situation during the game. For me, I am experience the opposite: I can't see missing penalties; maybe due to morale management. Attributes wise, isn't something special; like 11-12-12. Agreed. Composure is the biggest attribute for me for pen taking. Also players body language (I like to say mental state). noticed as well, if my striker misses a big chance or two, his body language can then be nervous. theres a few things it could be. Consistency (ability to perform the 19 attribute often), and pressure hidden attribute. Not saying for sure, but this all could also be playing a role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevaggel Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Since i got my main penalty taker in permanent "penalty taking" individual training he stopped missing penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, RDF Tactics said: Agreed. Composure is the biggest attribute for me for pen taking. Also players body language (I like to say mental state). noticed as well, if my striker misses a big chance or two, his body language can then be nervous. theres a few things it could be. Consistency (ability to perform the 19 attribute often), and pressure hidden attribute. Not saying for sure, but this all could also be playing a role Those two hidden attributes playing a big role, IMHO. Despite various phases (ie. playing matches or training). Plus morale (aka body language during the game). For those which playing the game many years, it pretty well known that everything is being connected. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_CB Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 13 horas atrás, Zachary Whyte disse: To throw some examples from my saves the AI certainly focus more on playing/buying youth players compared to FM22/FM23. Guler becoming a first-team player for Madrid, Liverpool going all in on very young Yamal was cool to see, PSG playing Xavi Simons & Zaïre-Emery consistently, international teams calling up younger players (Kobbie Mainoo & Archie Gray for England is an example I've spotted) Overall we're happy with the improvements made for FM24, it is a system that can be improved and if you see examples please raise them to us. It's okay to admit that you are using the Daveincid realism mod. (joke) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NineCloudNine Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 17 hours ago, Zachary Whyte said: To throw some examples from my saves the AI certainly focus more on playing/buying youth players compared to FM22/FM23. Guler becoming a first-team player for Madrid, Liverpool going all in on very young Yamal was cool to see, PSG playing Xavi Simons & Zaïre-Emery consistently, international teams calling up younger players (Kobbie Mainoo & Archie Gray for England is an example I've spotted) Those players already have high CA / reputation at the start of the game. I have yet to see a single example of an AI club actively developing a high PA player from a low CA to first team regular through smart loans, appearences in Cups and gradual increase in minutes. That pathway behaviour by AI clubs just does not exist. Nor is there any chance in FM of a player erupting into the first team like Pau Cubarsi has, because the AI Xavi would never, ever pick him over the other Barcelona CBs given his starting CA, no matter what his PA was. It has definitely improved slightly from FM22/23, but that’s a low bar because young player development was essentially non-existent in those games. So while the improvement and attention given to this area is welcome, I personally think there’s a very long way to go. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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