enigmatic Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, TheWednesday said: Tonight was an opportunity for Mainoo to really stake his claim and he's not done that, he's not the only one that's been poor but he certainly shouldn't be exempt from criticism when he's had people kissing his arse for the last few weeks/months. One thing to fairly criticise him for being (like a few others) pretty average all game, another to come up with the ludicrous take that the real fault with Stones and Ramsdale being far too easily beaten was Mainoo not being there to bail them out. Even Rob doesn't want Hendo in the side that much... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: All that new found optimism draining away by the minute What optimism? Same old ***** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Ramsdale second choice when he hasn't played all season is mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Iceland have had two massive chances really. Not worth panicking about a friendly as the intensity and desperation just isn't there, but this really isn't good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 7 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: Why is Eidur Gudjohnson’s son also called Gudjohnson? Shouldn’t it be Eidurson? I think some people use a family name. In this case, it's Gudjohnsen but if his name was Eidur Gudjohnsson instead, his son would have been Eidursson. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 He's at fault for the goal as much as Stones is for me. He lets the player in behind him and he's slow to react to the ball past him. If we wanna play "let's not criticise England because it'll break there morale" then fine, but he's at fault for the goal. (who gaf about Ramsdale, won't play anyway... while Stones... well we don't have a choice do we) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Pukey said: Iceland have had two massive chances really. Not worth panicking about a friendly as the intensity and desperation just isn't there, but this really isn't good. Only watched the second half but nobody wants to get injured. That said Iceland are a poor team and England should be winning even in second gear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Poor finish from Toney. You want Kane for that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Coulthard's Jaw said: Ramsdale second choice when he hasn't played all season is mad Southgate doesn't often kneejerk but I get the feeling second choice may now be Henderson... 1 minute ago, Pukey said: Iceland have had two massive chances really. Not worth panicking about a friendly as the intensity and desperation just isn't there, but this really isn't good. yeah, we gifted them the first and have missed several, but no idea how they haven't scored a second by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Please tell me Guehi isn't going to carry on ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdBed Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 The lack of protection has been a big issue tonight. Rice has ventured too far forward too frequently, and if he doesn't have a midfield partner that can be in position to fill in when he does then this is what will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Should be taking Guehi off after that really. Only one tonight who’s actually performed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Lovely shot of a child trying to throw a paper plane onto the pitch and failing. Sums this game up nicely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, Smaldini said: Walker has been *****. He's been like that all season. It's maddening how his mistakes are overlooked. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) I'm out so not watching, but I really hope we lose tonight. It'll be just the kick in the nuts to ensure everyone's focused and not complacent come the real match. Edited June 7 by Bliss Seeker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) not liked how easy our midfield has been bypassed in transition at all. One pass and they’re in, and it’s happened 3 or 4 times at least. Midfield structure has been all wrong. Think the telegraph might be right for a change. Edited June 7 by Smallen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, Bliss Seeker said: I'm out so not watching, but I really hope we lose tonight. It'll be just the kick in the nuts to ensure everyone's focused and not complacent come the real match. England 0-1 Iceland Keep them on their toes. All part of Gareth’s master plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Iceland have been ridiculously comfortable these last 10 minutes. Really poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, Smallen said: not liked how easy our midfield has been bypassed in transition at all. One pass and they’re in, and it’s happened 3 or 4 times at least. Midfield structure has been all wrong. Think the telegraph might be right for a change. You can see why Southgate really liked Rice/Phillips as a pair in the last Euros. Looked a lot more secure and it was so much more difficult to bypass. (No, this is not me suggesting Phillips should have been called up before anyone says, I'm not that insane ffs) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Defensively poor with nothing going forward. Iceland super comfortable right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambolic Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 With the attacking talent we have, how are we so blunt going forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Pukey said: You can see why Southgate really liked Rice/Phillips as a pair in the last Euros. Looked a lot more secure and it was so much more difficult to bypass. (No, this is not me suggesting Phillips should have been called up before anyone says, I'm not that insane ffs) Rice also doesn’t really play as a 6 at club level anymore, and you can tell in his play because he’s pressing much higher than he ever used to for England. If he’s going to play like that then we need someone more defensively aware next to him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Shambolic said: With the attacking talent we have, how are we so blunt going forward? Southgate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 I think it's time we put some respect on that 2016 team. At least they scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Smallen said: Rice also doesn’t really play as a 6 at club level anymore, and you can tell in his play because he’s pressing much higher than he ever used to for England. If he’s going to play like that then we need someone more defensively aware next to him. Problem is, he's the most defensively aware midfielder in the squad, and it's not like the more defensive options we left at home are good players... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, Shambolic said: With the attacking talent we have, how are we so blunt going forward? Because we’ve got about six players out there that have barely played together before. The best individual players don’t necessarily make the best team. Who knew. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 I'm very biased but there's no way you can tell me England can't work around Trent's disadvantages. He's too good not to fit into the team, whether that's at fullback or CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 The thing that surprises me is that some people seem shocked still that were **** under Southgate and its like have you been living under a rock or something? We did well at a tournament or two by 1-0's and set pieces and being solid if not anything else but we were never blowing anyone away or playing them off the park. This is the standard Southgate performance. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, Shambolic said: With the attacking talent we have, how are we so blunt going forward? When facing low blocks, it really needs good attacking coaching for patterns, players being disciplined and not stepping on each other toes. Had it far too much this game, players on top of each other, stagnated etc. Alright when it’s an open game for individual talent to show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: I'm very biased but there's no way you can tell me England can't work around Trent's disadvantages. He's too good not to fit into the team, whether that's at fullback or CM. Can't understand why he hasn't been tried at left back, considering Trippier is horrible there and Trent can clearly invert and play his long passes and probably cross better from that angle than Trippier. Cameo today isn't great, mind you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 3 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: I'm very biased but there's no way you can tell me England can't work around Trent's disadvantages. He's too good not to fit into the team, whether that's at fullback or CM. And right on cue his shot/cross ends up closer to the halfway line than the goal. Commentators curse 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: I'm very biased but there's no way you can tell me England can't work around Trent's disadvantages. He's too good not to fit into the team, whether that's at fullback or CM. Tbf think there is a strong chance he starts in midfield at Euros 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 This is dire, we're clearly missing Maguire/Philips/Henderson/Rashford/Sterling/Grealish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, metal_guitarist said: And right on cue his shot/cross ends up closer to the halfway line than the goal. Commentators curse Aye, he did that while I was mid typing but sent it anyway, YOLO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 we now have a side out which is full of ball-to-feet players and we’ve lost any threat we had. We’ll always need a Rashford/Sterling/Gordon who will run in behind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 3 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: When facing low blocks, it really needs good attacking coaching for patterns, players being disciplined and not stepping on each other toes. Had it far too much this game, players on top of each other, stagnated etc. Alright when it’s an open game for individual talent to show. Playing at walking pace doesn’t help either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Horrible performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Looking like 1 win in 5 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Mainoo Closer to the corner flag than the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, skybluedave said: Tbf think there is a strong chance he starts in midfield at Euros Would be peak Gareth to spend all these years telling us Foden can’t play in midfield to then start Trent in midfield at a tournament. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Ironically, lost our most threat in attack in these situations with no Maguire. One floaty corner / set piece masks all this when he gets head to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 How many of these type of performances has Southgate given packed Wembley crowds at this point? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 This isn’t all on Southgate. The players have been ***** 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Reckon that Grealish fella would have helped you out here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, arenaross said: How many of these type of performances has Southgate given packed Wembley crowds at this point? At this point it's the crowds fault for still going 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Dreadful. Nice downer to head into the tournament on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Yessss! The negativity is back Perfect. Just perfect. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Teams that lost their final friendly before a tournament win stats in 3.. 2....1....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 All those boos Pathetic performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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