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Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II passes away. 21st April 1926 - 8th September 2022.


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33 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

Today is not the day of the funeral, though?

We are in a period of mourning as a Country. It's not the right time, Sure they should present a better case in the future but travelling all the way there with crappy slogans like "Not my King" "**** the monarchy"  is going to antagonise people during this time, It doesn't mean they should be arrested for that. 

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2 minutes ago, Rob1981 said:

Arsenal v PSV postponed. So much for the midweek games being able to happen as normal.

Surely makes sense just to reverse the group stage fixtures and play in Eindhoven this week. Literally no space to find a free midweek slot before the WC otherwise.

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4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said:

Arsenal v PSV postponed. So much for the midweek games being able to happen as normal.

If that’s a policing issue (which I assume it is) because of the numbers of Dutch fans then Saturday and Sundays games in London are done too

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8 minutes ago, oche balboa said:

We are in a period of mourning as a Country. It's not the right time, Sure they should present a better case in the future but travelling all the way there with crappy slogans like "Not my King" "**** the monarchy"  is going to antagonise people during this time, It doesn't mean they should be arrested for that. 

You could argue that it's actually a great time to peacefully protest. If that right starts being taken away, we are in very dangerous waters.

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20 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

You could argue that it's actually a great time to peacefully protest. If that right starts being taken away, we are in very dangerous waters.

Not convinced these count as peaceful protests.

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29 minutes ago, oche balboa said:

We are in a period of mourning as a Country. It's not the right time, Sure they should present a better case in the future but travelling all the way there with crappy slogans like "Not my King" "**** the monarchy"  is going to antagonise people during this time, It doesn't mean they should be arrested for that. 

So when is the right time?

Tomorrow, the day after, next week, next month?

 

When!

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2 hours ago, themadsheep2001 said:

Yep, this is the bit we need to know about. If he's then kicked off at the people around

He was most probably demonstrating his right to freedom of speech by shouting at those telling him to ''shut up you tit'', this then escalated in him being removed for his own safety and the police mentioning a section 5. And letting him go.

If some football fans started giving verbals within the laws towards home fans who were growing in number, then the Police would stick them in the van move out of the area to the nearest train station and tell them to go home or behave.  

This far easier than going through the rigmarole of paperwork and solicitors when they've got better things to do and at the same time they've saved the NHS a few quid in stitching him up.

Of course, letting it go and not making a big deal out of it wouldn't see his twitter trend improve. 

He might not realise behind his own self-importance, but they've done him a favour

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1 minute ago, Garethjohn79 said:

He was most probably demonstrating his right to freedom of speech by shouting at those telling him to ''shut up you tit'', this then escalated in him being removed for his own safety and the police mentioning a section 5. And letting him go.

If some football fans started giving verbals within the laws towards home fans who were growing in number, then the Police would stick them in the van move out of the area to the nearest train station and tell them to go home or behave.  

This far easier than going through the rigmarole of paperwork and solicitors when they've got better things to do and at the same time they've saved the NHS a few quid in stitching him up.

Of course, letting it go and not making a big deal out of it wouldn't see his twitter trend improve. 

He might not realise behind his own self-importance, but they've done him a favour

I'm definitely not one to defend the police, for so, so many reasons. But I do wonder how much of the bold might have occurred. 

There was similar in Edinburgh, and the crowd were quite polite in replying, in the end that small group of protestors actually calmed down 

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2 hours ago, sc91 said:

It's not even like there wouldn't be fans of away clubs that are from or live in London, and also the same for London clubs, friend of mine has a season ticket at Spurs and travels from Manchester for each game, for example.

Avanti have been doing their best to put off fans or anyone travelling on weekends along its route by not selling train tickets until four days prior to travel, this is during a normal weekend, God knows how they're gonna handle this. 

No wonder the sent her body by plane, even if you get all the privilege and priority of your train, they still didn't have enough faith that the British Rail Network wouldn't balls it up Infront of all those cameras 

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36 minutes ago, Ackter said:

Though imagine if theyd chained themselves to all the gates so the Queen's body couldnt actually get in.

Or thrown themselves themselves in front of the Kings Horse, as Emily Davison did.

(just playing devils advocate)

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it's pretty difficult to protest in any fashion without antagonising someone

 

even if you were just there with perfectly inoffensive placards and were entirely peaceful, someone is going to get upset - mainly because you dont share their views. That's just how people are, it would be boring if we were all the same 

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7 minutes ago, profii said:

it's pretty difficult to protest in any fashion without antagonising someone

 

even if you were just there with perfectly inoffensive placards and were entirely peaceful, someone is going to get upset - mainly because you dont share their views. That's just how people are, it would be boring if we were all the same 

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22 minutes ago, Rob1981 said:

Surprised how little space there is between the crowd barriers and the procession here.  It's like a really slow Tour de France.

And this is why the coffin is travelling to London by air.

Just imagine the scenes trackside if it went by Royal Train. It was bad enough last time Flying Scotsman was out.

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So in modern Britain it is now an arrestable offence to protest the divine right of the sovereign, apparently not because we are some authoritarian feudal throwback, but because its ‘disrespectful’ and ‘disruptive’ to protest while her cold dead corpse is being hauled around the country so people can gawp at the coffin. I don’t know what’s worse out of how casually reasonable freedom to protest is being cast aside or the dumb ass justifications being offered up to defend it.

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