skybluedave Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I don't care who starts really. They are all decent players. But I can't invisage England winning a WC without Foden being intregal to the side. Like he needs to be front and centre of what we do. This biggest knock I'll give Southgate is, somehow not finding a way of getting best out of Foden. He should be building side around him (and Kane) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, ArsenalFan7 said: The reported leaked XI is: Pickford, Shaw, Maguire, Stones, Trippier, Rice, Bellingham, Mount, Sterling, Kane, Saka 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I used to care about what side Southgate put out, now I think we're so defensive that whichever attacking option he chooses, they will look worse than they do for their club. Also Iran are managed by Queiroz, I really hope we just score a set piece after 15 minutes or something so I don't get too frustrated. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Saka can play left back after we go 1-0 thanks to a Kane penalty. Exciting times ahead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 To get you in the mood for tomorrow, Harry Kane has narrated the Cbeebies bedtime story Oi Dog! https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001fgqd/cbeebies-bedtime-stories-844-harry-kane-oi-dog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Kicking off about this inclusivity armband now Saying if we wear it it might lead to “sporting sanctions” rather than just a fine for the FA. Like the ref goes and gives Harry Kane an instant booking in the first minute and makes him take it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I think they’ll bottle it. As soon as there’s a threat of getting booked or officials not allowing them to even take the field with them on they’ll cave. Van Dijk has already pretty much said if they’re going to book me I’m not wearing it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Wtf? Looks like the beginnings of another Hangover film 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 What a farce if we cave and scrap it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 I dunno, can you seriously expect them all to wear it if it risks compromising the teams' results? Stupid though. It blows up into a massive story and players either get booked for nothing, or they very loudly and very publicly back down just before kickoff... all the big European countries united against FIFA. Qatar look far more absurd and far more intolerant in the eyes of the world. Should have just let them wear the armband in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Do cards get reset after the final group game? Could see England and Wales doing it then, perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: if it risks compromising the teams' results? Exactly. As we talked some days ago, they want to be supportive, but they still care about bloody money trophy way more. God forbid we compromise the result, that would mean all those slave workers died for nothing. If Netherlands and England say they'll leave the pitch if captains get booked because of the armband and actually do it, the entire WC is invalid. But noone will do it, because they care more about the result than promoting the rights they want to promote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, Weezer said: Wtf? Put it in spoiler tags ffs so it doesn't autoplay every time you open the page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 What a symbol it would be though if Kane did wear the arm band and got booked immediately. It would cause a huge issue for FIFA and put pressure on other nations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, arenaross said: What a symbol it would be though if Kane did wear the arm band and got booked immediately. It would cause a huge issue for FIFA Agreed, it would be a WC story for the ages. Something people are still talking about in 20 years... up there with the Zaire freekick and the Kuwaiti walkoff. And Kane has to go first obviously, but even better if the other captains as well do it already KNOWING they will definitely get booked. Personally I think they should all do it, but I understand if they don't. If they were prepared to put a Qatar protest ahead of sporting success they could have boycotted altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Ok Gareth, your sarcasm is noted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Weezer said: Wtf? Looks like the beginnings of another Hangover film I saw the original tweet yesterday and, like HLTCO, just presumed it was utter nonsense. Can't believe it looks like it was true 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 That starting XI is decent if true. As always it will depend how we play it, like. There are two quite attacking full backs. What formation do Iran play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, arenaross said: Ok Gareth, your sarcasm is noted. Sarcasm It's a massive story if countries get deliberate bookings, even more so if it costs someone a player later in the game. The kind of thing people will be talking about in 20 years on those "50 World Cup Moments" shows. So for that reason they should do it, force a story that endures long after this WC has been and gone. Just don't think they will risk the game when push comes to shove. Edited November 21, 2022 by Rob1981 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Sarcasm It's a massive story if countries get deliberate bookings, even more so if it costs someone a player later in the game. The kind of thing people will be talking about in 20 years on those "50 World Cup Moments" shows. So for that reason they should do it, force a story that endures long after this WC has been and gone. Just don't think they will risk the game when push comes to shove. Haha sorry - thought you were taking the ****! I'm tired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, arenaross said: Haha sorry - thought you were taking the ****! I'm tired. Haha. If you’re sleepy now, wait until you’ve watched England v Iran. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Can't England change Captain for each match and have a different player wear it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Pickford Trippier Stones Maguire Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Saka Kane Rashford That would be my team for today. Mount and Sterling aren't playing well right now and shouldn't be starting. Kane is better with pace and directness in front of him, so would go with Rashford and Saka Would be mental to leave Foden out, if that line up above is correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Yeah, if the leaked team is: Quote Pickford, Shaw, Maguire, Stones, Trippier, Rice, Bellingham, Mount, Sterling, Kane, Saka Probably put Foden in ahead of Mount, but happy with it otherwise. Surely Iran are looking for a point here, then they try and win one of their other games if they look easier on paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthrax Dave Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Wear the armband, Harry. You're the first of the captain's who decided to do it. If they book you, then it shows what a shambles FIFA and this World Cup are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gizzy said: Pickford Trippier Stones Maguire Shaw Rice Bellingham Foden Saka Kane Rashford That would be my team for today. Mount and Sterling aren't playing well right now and shouldn't be starting. Kane is better with pace and directness in front of him, so would go with Rashford and Saka Would be mental to leave Foden out, if that line up above is correct I’m sure there’s a defender who would also meet your criteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Bigwig said: I’m sure there’s a defender who would also meet your criteria. There certainly is, but I don't see him not starting. And the other options aren't great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Rob1981 said: I dunno, can you seriously expect them all to wear it if it risks compromising the teams' results? Stupid though. It blows up into a massive story and players either get booked for nothing, or they very loudly and very publicly back down just before kickoff... all the big European countries united against FIFA. Qatar look far more absurd and far more intolerant in the eyes of the world. Should have just let them wear the armband in the first place. Well yea. Otherwise saying football more important than the people you campaigning for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, pearcey_90 said: Well yea. Otherwise saying football more important than the people you campaigning for. I think everyone has already said that... just by being there in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 That team actually a lot better than I expected to be fair, at least no back 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: I think everyone has already said that... just by being there in the first place. But follow through with what you say you going to do. What's going to happen, referee sends off Kane. Kane passes it over to Maguire, referee sends off Maguire, and so on and game cancelled due to not having 7 players on the pitch. Great look for Fifa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: I think everyone has already said that... just by being there in the first place. Probably something to do with having the conviction to follow through with your intended actions. Edited November 21, 2022 by sc91 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Quote Grealish told TalkSport : “We all got given flowers. I haven’t put them in a vase yet. There was a camel and that as well, I got on the camel’s back, there was a bird, I don’t know what bird it was. The camel fully stood up, I was so high, I was scared. I got on it but I didn’t think it would go as high as it did because I didn’t realise how big it would be and when it stood up it was so big.” I remember my first Primary school trip as well Edited November 21, 2022 by Baptista_8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Baptista_8 said: I remember my first Primary school trip as well That I read that in his thick accent makes even more funny. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Strap in boys for Christmas Celebrations never seen before. ITS COMING HOME 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, PaulHartman71 said: That team actually a lot better than I expected to be fair, at least no back 5. If you lineup like that, you have to be considered among the favorites. I'll believe Southgate will stay that aggressive when I see it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I think I love Gareth Southgate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, skybluedave said: I think I love Gareth Southgate Has Rob hacked your account? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Has Rob hacked your account? 49 minutes ago, skybluedave said: I think I love Gareth Southgate Lol, my first thought was to comment on Rob when I saw the post! I don’t know how Robs heart took 6 goals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Rob has always believed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 18 hours ago, SouthCoastRed said: Has Rob hacked your account? Gareth is like a lover you've started to tire of. She's getting on your nerves a bit. The spark has gone, we've had a few rows recently. It's probably time to end it and go separate ways but then she surprises you with a romantic weekend away and dinner at Rick Steins, and the sparks back again 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Wilson training with yesterday’s starting eleven and not the subs. Do we start thinking Kane is a doubt for Friday or are we overthinking it? He did take a right clout before he went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony85 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Isn't Wilson another one who isn't at his peak fitness? Maybe just giving him extra rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, skybluedave said: Gareth is like a lover you've started to tire of. She's getting on your nerves a bit. The spark has gone, we've had a few rows recently. It's probably time to end it and go separate ways but then she surprises you with a romantic weekend away and dinner at Rick Steins, and the sparks back again Sure, but then he takes you to a posh Italian place and suddenly he gets tight with his wallet and you can only order starters and water, and you remember how frustrating he is and how great things would be if he just let the relationship have more freedom Edited November 22, 2022 by Barry Cartman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: Sure, but then he takes you to a posh Italian place and suddenly he gets tight with his wallet and you can only order starters and water, and you remember how frustrating he is and how great things would be if he just let the relationship have more freedom Yeah, but then you go to the Persian place and he’s ordering everything off the menu and buying drinks for people on the next table. And everyone’s having the time of their lives. And people in the Argentine restaurant over the road are looking on and wishing they’d eaten somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Yeah, but then you go to the Persian place and he’s ordering everything off the menu and buying drinks for people on the next table. And everyone’s having the time of their lives. And people in the Argentine restaurant over the road are looking on and wishing they’d eaten somewhere else. But hopefully by the time he gets to the cheap, nasty American burger bar he hasn't spaffed everything in his wallet and there's nothing left 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Wilson training with yesterday’s starting eleven and not the subs. Do we start thinking Kane is a doubt for Friday or are we overthinking it? He did take a right clout before he went off. I wonder if maybe they're just letting Kane test for today's session to not make the injury worse? Hopefully it's not anything too bad in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 uh oh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Yeah just came in to post that. Hopefully he's alright ultimately but bit of injury drama for England is as standard tournament fare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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