KeiranShikari Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, nunch98 said: but fifa relies on pack openings, same as csgo most popular yt are doing case openings. the audience will probably not be interested Probably a fair point actually, I've not played fifa properly in abour 20 years. The point that they're looking to grab that wider audience isn't wrong though. I know plenty of people that enjoy both Fifa and FM. Edited October 18, 2023 by KeiranShikari Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Chelsea1903 said: Everyone is talking about the youtubers, and no one is talking about the fact that the beta will come out in 18 minutes. 17! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnack Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Chelsea1903 said: Everyone is talking about the youtubers, and no one is talking about the fact that the beta will come out in 18 minutes. Hypeee!!! Lets go beta!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Beckham Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, XaW said: We are slowly turning back to Youtubers here.... Do people really want to be yeeted out of the thread? In my defence. I am trying to deter them by telling them they are wrong. I know that is probably not helping but the urge to put them in their place is too tempting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
workthespace Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 16 minutes, eeeek. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldo Beckham said: You are entitled to your opinion. However your opinion is wrong. Football Manager content is very popular on Youtube. I understand you are frustrated but to take it out on people who get the game a day before you is so silly. I can't find a way to prove this to you but I know that sales of Football Manager have gone up year by year and that is to a degree because of content creators on Youtube and Twitch. I'm not taking it out on them, not sure where you got that from? If i'd have posted on any of their channels absolutely you would be right but i didn't/ Relative to other games football manager engagement, viewership and watchtime is consdierably lower, so to claim its very popular is ludicrous. On the sales i'd love to see the stats behind it because i genuinely doubt it would drive sales in the way that it would for a CoD game or rocket league, but i'm happy to be proven wrong with data. All i've done is mention on an SI site that i think they have taken the wrong approach. I would not go to one of these youtubers and say it there which would be taking it out on them as there is no benefit. So for you to make that claim is poor curtesy on your part i believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyEs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, XaW said: We are slowly turning back to Youtubers here.... Do people really want to be yeeted out of the thread? I don't get why the whole Youtube thing is such an issue. People need to relax & leave each other too it Edited October 18, 2023 by AndyEs missing context Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo Beckham said: In my defence. I am trying to deter them by telling them they are wrong. I know that is probably not helping but the urge to put them in their place is too tempting 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samrnpage Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Theyve just removed the pinned tweet from the main twitter account, could mean nothing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabregas_04 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ronaldo Beckham said: In my defence. I am trying to deter them by telling them they are wrong. I know that is probably not helping but the urge to put them in their place is too tempting Nice of you to declare your opinion fact. Ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, AndyEs said: I don't get why it's such an issue. People need to relax & leave each other too it Because every time it happens, people take personal digs at others. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, jim owen said: I'm not taking it out on them, not sure where you got that from? If i'd have posted on any of their channels absolutely you would be right but i didn't/ Relative to other games football manager engagement, viewership and watchtime is consdierably lower, so to claim its very popular is ludicrous. On the sales i'd love to see the stats behind it because i genuinely doubt it would drive sales in the way that it would for a CoD game or rocket league, but i'm happy to be proven wrong with data. All i've done is mention on an SI site that i think they have taken the wrong approach. I would not go to one of these youtubers and say it there which would be taking it out on them as there is no benefit. So for you to make that claim is poor curtesy on your part i believe you can't come into someones house and tell them they're loading their dishwasher wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenjah1 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, workthespace said: 16 minutes, eeeek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbz2012 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, workthespace said: 16 minutes, eeeek. are you toying with us..i speculate that you are lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, nunch98 said: you can't come into someones house and tell them they're loading their dishwasher wrong literally what i've said i'm not doing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, workthespace said: 16 minutes, eeeek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyEs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, XaW said: Because every time it happens, people take personal digs at others. Simple as that. sorry I mean I don't get why the whole Youtube thing is such a big deal. Important context haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samrnpage Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, samrnpage said: Theyve just removed the pinned tweet from the main twitter account, could mean nothing They are about to put another pinned tweet here this is why im excited 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Beckham Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, XaW said: Yeah that is definitely me. I will stop now though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emozil Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Barbz2012 said: are you toying with us..i speculate that you are lol Based off the past twitter activity yes 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM'd-BRO Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, workthespace said: Have I missed something, I think your on the wind up 😞 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omerrath Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Ok 8 pm approaching, I'm here for the countdown. still pretty sure it will be tomorrow 8 pm, but betting on now is pretty attractive bet. Let's go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, AndyEs said: sorry I mean I don't get why the whole Youtube thing is such a big deal. Important context haha. Ah, then we agree. I just want people to go back to having fun with stupid gifs and not argue over small unrelated things.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedaytona Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, workthespace said: 16 minutes, eeeek. You know something don't you? I knew it! I just knew it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbz2012 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, AndyEs said: sorry I mean I don't get why the whole Youtube thing is such a big deal. Important context haha. yeah i prefer twitch cos of the instant interaction ..youtube is good for tactics and rebuilds etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertocerdeira.4 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I’m a little bit lost with the fact that they didn’t remove the date on Epic Games and the youtubers started his videos at 9 AM, but this could mean nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simsimmabrfc85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, XaW said: Ah, then we agree. I just want people to go back to having fun with stupid gifs and not argue over small unrelated things.... Stupid gifs you say? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedaytona Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, XaW said: Ah, then we agree. I just want people to go back to having fun with stupid gifs and not argue over small unrelated things.... I think we may have run out of gif's! 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post workthespace Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, jim owen said: I'm not taking it out on them, not sure where you got that from? If i'd have posted on any of their channels absolutely you would be right but i didn't/ Relative to other games football manager engagement, viewership and watchtime is consdierably lower, so to claim its very popular is ludicrous. On the sales i'd love to see the stats behind it because i genuinely doubt it would drive sales in the way that it would for a CoD game or rocket league, but i'm happy to be proven wrong with data. All i've done is mention on an SI site that i think they have taken the wrong approach. I would not go to one of these youtubers and say it there which would be taking it out on them as there is no benefit. So for you to make that claim is poor curtesy on your part i believe I have sold over 9,000 copies of FM in the last 3 years directly via my affiliate link, I know I'm not the largest with that number either. That of course doesn't account for sales driven by myself of people who didn't use my link but bought the game elsewhere or people who watched my videos before trying out the game on game pass for example. It's impossible to quantify exactly, but I do believe online creators across all mediums have a sizable impact on driving FM sales, if SI didn't think that was the case I'm certain they wouldn't do the Alpha access for creators they do every year. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, workthespace said: 16 minutes, eeeek. i believe you because i'm eaasily led and i want it to be true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 can we mute the word "youtube" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samrnpage Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, workthespace said: I have sold over 9,000 copies of FM in the last 3 years directly via my affiliate link, I know I'm not the largest with that number either. That of course doesn't account for sales driven by myself of people who didn't use my link but bought the game elsewhere or people who watched my videos before trying out the game on game pass for example. It's impossible to quantify exactly, but I do believe online creators across all mediums have a sizable impact on driving FM sales, if SI didn't think that was the case I'm certain they wouldn't do the Alpha access for creators they do every year. I wouldn't bother with these people. There are a generation of older people who don't understand how big youtube is, the numbers it pulls in. When I told my grandparents how many views people like Mr.Beast get they spat their drink out. There are entire live TV shows that dont get as many views as a FM youtuber on a per episode basis 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyEs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, workthespace said: I have sold over 9,000 copies of FM in the last 3 years directly via my affiliate link, I know I'm not the largest with that number either. That of course doesn't account for sales driven by myself of people who didn't use my link but bought the game elsewhere or people who watched my videos before trying out the game on game pass for example. It's impossible to quantify exactly, but I do believe online creators across all mediums have a sizable impact on driving FM sales, if SI didn't think that was the case I'm certain they wouldn't do the Alpha access for creators they do every year. You don't need to explain yourself mate. Keep doing what you do. Create content, earn a living doing something you love & let people be jealous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
workthespace Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) I just wanted to join in on the countdown. Sorry guys. (Don't read into my excited 16.) Tomorrow will be an epic day for us all. Edited October 18, 2023 by workthespace 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simsimmabrfc85 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeiranShikari Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Do you not think a majority of that is converting steam sales into fansly sales because why not help a content creator you like? The fan codes have always felt like that to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, AndyEs said: You don't need to explain yourself mate. Keep doing what you do. Create content, earn a living doing something you love & let people be jealous And keep making Park to Prem! Best series there is 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, workthespace said: I just wanted to join in on the countdown. Sorry guys. Tomorrow will be an epic day for us all. Countdown? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyEs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, workthespace said: I just wanted to join in on the countdown. Sorry guys. (Don't read into my excited 16.) Tomorrow will be an epic day for us all. He said tomorrow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Beckham Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, workthespace said: I just wanted to join in on the countdown. Sorry guys. (Don't read into my excited 16.) Tomorrow will be an epic day for us all. Workthespace guaranteeing we are getting the Beta tomorrow. You heard it here first people Ps. I really enjoyed your journey with Guernsey. I am looking forward to your FM24 content and please please please do a network game stream with @doctorbenjy Lollujo and Zealand as that was some of the best entertainment I have ever seen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowieinspace Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, workthespace said: I just wanted to join in on the countdown. Sorry guys. (Don't read into my excited 16.) Tomorrow will be an epic day for us all. Don’t forget when the beta releases and you’re downloading it, you have to wait until it’s finished - don’t resign half way through! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunch98 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, AndyEs said: He said tomorrow... i read that as today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, XaW said: Jeg skjønner ordene, men ikke helt meningen og konteksten bak det...? Now, since I understand your native tongue, I expect you to get this without a translator! Like most languages, I only really know bad words. And for Norwegian that’s one phrase. Jeg is I though. I guess meningen is meaning. So “I something something, but what is the meaning of it”? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeonflux Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) The amount of people complaining about YouTubers and streamers getting early access, do you know how the games industry works? Also those complaining about not having the beta yet, you realise that SI aren’t contracted nor do they have any requirement to give us a beta? They chose to do it so that a. We get earlier access to the game instead of waiting for the full release and b. Enables them to get more info on bugs that can be resolved quicker rather than doing just a full release and then us waiting months for bugs to be resolved or addressed I.e. Cyberpunk. Be grateful for the beta (whenever SI decide to release it) and stop your complaining Edited October 18, 2023 by Zeonflux 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabregas_04 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, AndyEs said: He said tomorrow... Possibly to deflect from the fact he gave away the 8PM release? May as well join in all this hype malarky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbz2012 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, workthespace said: I have sold over 9,000 copies of FM in the last 3 years directly via my affiliate link, I know I'm not the largest with that number either. That of course doesn't account for sales driven by myself of people who didn't use my link but bought the game elsewhere or people who watched my videos before trying out the game on game pass for example. It's impossible to quantify exactly, but I do believe online creators across all mediums have a sizable impact on driving FM sales, if SI didn't think that was the case I'm certain they wouldn't do the Alpha access for creators they do every year. exactly..i buy it every year regardless and get cheapest price i can for it so i get beta lol but people watch people such as yourself and then buy the game which is good for you and them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyEs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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