Pukey Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 To the surprise of no one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 If the Maguire rumours are true, then we need The Sun to do a Beckham's metatarsal spread for the entirety of John Stones' body. He HAS to be fit and stay fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Jack Grealish and Harry Maguire OUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Condolences to Baptista for Grealish and I guess Rob for Maguire. Congratulations to everyone else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Pep really did break my guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 Oh no Genuinely gutted for Maguire. Joke all you want, but the best international teams are built on defensive parnterships that have played a lot and know each other's games inside out. Plus I was looking forward to the picture of Maguire holding the trophy so I could rub it in everyone's face. BUT. Where there's change, there's opportunity... as my old man always said. Arise Ezri Konsa MBE. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Maguire is unlucky, But Grealish had to go with Eze coming along the scene it was very hard for him to make it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 (edited) So right, hang on. We've lost (or think we've lost): Maddison, Quansah, Jones, Trafford, Maguire, Grealish Have I missed anyone? If not, we are still one player over... presumably Dunk or Branthwaite getting cut last. Or we take both of them and ditch Toney. Edited June 6 by Rob1981 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Delighted that it looks nailed on Wharton goes. I think he maybe even should start alongside Rice. Inched above Mainoo in my pecking order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 3 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: Delighted that it looks nailed on Wharton goes. I think he maybe even should start alongside Rice. Inched above Mainoo in my pecking order Wharton is an absolute diamond to be fair. Southgate making some actually pretty competent calls is quite scary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Branthwaite is apparently the last man out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Leaving Grealish out is insane. Still capable of having a quality tourney despite his City struggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Is Anthony Gordon going over Grealish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Maguire dropped because of injury but Shaw somehow kept despite being nowhere fit. Can't wait for England to rush him back and then him be crocked for the start of the league season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 People celebrating Maguire out as though we've got brilliant CB options. Be taking Grealish over Gordon as well, but Pep really has broken Grealish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Baptista_8 said: Is Anthony Gordon going over Grealish? If you're going to go off form, then Gordon is head and shoulders above Grealish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Branthwaite is out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Leaving Grealish out is insane. Still capable of having a quality tourney despite his City struggles. Rashford has over double the goal contributions of Grealish this season and he isn't even in the preliminary squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 So what centrebacks are we taking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 Dunk over Branthwaite is a weird one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Never thought I'd be concerned about Maguire being absent, but here we are. I get Grealish - we aren't short of left-sided options and Gordon and Eze are in better form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Kane, Watkins, and Toney all going is a bit surprising. Genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see him stick Toney on in the 119th minute of a knockout game though to take a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Southgate going proper un-Southgate like this summer. All the boo boys GONE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Rob1981 said: Dunk over Branthwaite is a weird one. It is. Can only assume it's primarily to have an experienced player in the training camp, because I think he's - what - third choice to partner Stones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: So what centrebacks are we taking If Branthwaite is definitely out? Then Stones, Konsa, Guehi, Dunk and Gomez. Assuming Gomez is being considered for cover at both CB and LB. Then the other full backs: Shaw, Trippier, Walker, and TAA that could drop back to RB from midfield. Edited June 6 by Rob1981 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I think he's made the right calls overall tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, arenaross said: I think he's made the right calls overall tbh. It's like if a new manager had come in and gone with this squad we'd all be loving it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Yeah this looks fine to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, sc91 said: If you're going to go off form, then Gordon is head and shoulders above Grealish. But half the player. Grealish could have turned it on at the Euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, Harryseaess said: Rashford has over double the goal contributions of Grealish this season and he isn't even in the preliminary squad. Grealish brings control in the final third against the top sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Baptista_8 said: But half the player. Grealish could have turned it on at the Euros. Should have represented Ireland..... Grumbles aside, I don't think Grealish has looked half the player he was this season, and I also don't think he's shown anything that'll change that. Perhaps getting dropped is a good kick up the arse for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Going to struggle to pass the ball 5 yards now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Aww sad for Maguire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, sc91 said: Should have represented Ireland..... He's still have the summer off though 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sc91 said: Should have represented Ireland..... Grumbles aside, I don't think Grealish has looked half the player he was this season, and I also don't think he's shown anything that'll change that. Perhaps getting dropped is a good kick up the arse for him. He has yeah, but when he's at his best, he can make a difference VS the best sides in the world. But Euro 2021 he was putting in world class performances and Southgate gave him scraps, so there we go. Edited June 6 by Baptista_8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, skybluedave said: He's still have the summer off though Touché. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 God, this is stressing me out. 3-4 years of being relentlessly positive even though nearly everybody else wanted Southgate sacked. Now I'm worrying because we've lost our veteran CB to injury, and in midfield we have to chose between two schoolkids with only one cap each... and everyone else is buzzing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillHoward42 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Rob1981 said: God, this is stressing me out. 3-4 years of being relentlessly positive even though nearly everybody else wanted Southgate sacked. Now I'm worrying because we've lost our veteran CB to injury, and in midfield we have to chose between two schoolkids with only one cap each... and everyone else is buzzing Oh... so nowwwww you want Southgate gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Rob1981 said: God, this is stressing me out. 3-4 years of being relentlessly positive even though nearly everybody else wanted Southgate sacked. Now I'm worrying because we've lost our veteran CB to injury, and in midfield we have to chose between two schoolkids with only one cap each... and everyone else is buzzing Just wait until we win without experience and I can spend all summer telling you I told you so 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) Our defence is even more of a mess without Maguire Midfield and Forwards are incredible, but that defence is going to royally **** us Edited June 6 by Bliss Seeker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 3 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: God, this is stressing me out. 3-4 years of being relentlessly positive even though nearly everybody else wanted Southgate sacked. Now I'm worrying because we've lost our veteran CB to injury, and in midfield we have to chose between two schoolkids with only one cap each... and everyone else is buzzing You're worried because we're going to win it without Maguire and Henderson, a feat you spent 3 years telling us was categorically impossible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Bliss Seeker said: Our defence is even more of a mess without Maguire Midfield and Forwards are incredible, but that defence is going to royally **** us Don't worry - we've got Pickers in goal! Oh. ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob1981 Posted June 6 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 6 Oh you'd all love that, wouldn't you? Drop Henderson, drop Phillips, drop Rashford, lose Maguire to injury... Then we win the trophy with some kids that were only born while Sven was in charge. I don't think I could recover from that, probably have to leave the forums. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: Our defence is even more of a mess without Maguire Midfield and Forwards are incredible, but that defence is going to royally **** us Weekly reminder that Argentina won the World Cup with Otamendi and Romero at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Very surprised at Grealish, thought he was v good the other night and he ball retention is a very useful asset to have in certain circumstances. Hopefully it lights a fire under him next year though so all good with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: Weekly reminder that Argentina won the World Cup with Otamendi and Romero at the back If Vrsaljko-Lovren-Vida-Strinić defense made WC final, anything is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 7 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Oh you'd all love that, wouldn't you? Drop Henderson, drop Phillips, drop Rashford, lose Maguire to injury... Then we win the trophy with some kids that were only born while Sven was in charge. I don't think I could recover from that, probably have to leave the forums. Sorry but all those CMs are at least an 8, your 2 x 10s + 1 x 7 maths just isn't going to work this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 14 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: Our defence is even more of a mess without Maguire I don't know. I think Guehi & Stones is or can be, a better unit then Maguire & Stones. I think Guehi is class. He's comfortable on the left which compliments Stones. The thing Stone/Maguire have is they are experienced together whereas I'm fairly sure Guehi has never played with Stones. Feel like when Guehi has played it has been with Maguire or Dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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