Administrators Lucas Posted July 4 Administrators Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: Can't believe Saka at lwb and people are up for it. What a crazy world. Worked out great for me on FM tbh But by that point I had Ethan Nwaneri desperate to play more games 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 59 minutes ago, JJ72 said: I quite like that. Very brave of him though if so Brave by making two changes that are forced (If Trips isn't 100%), then altering the tactics completely so Foden/Bellingham/Saka are still in same XI for 5th game running, despite it not working once yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, TalkSport said: Brave by making two changes that are forced (If Trips isn't 100%), then altering the tactics completely so Foden/Bellingham/Saka are still in same XI for 5th game running, despite it not working once yet. If Maguire was healthy, he could've gone with Pep's 3-2-5, Stones and Rice at DMs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Like you've took one LB that's not fit, refusing to play Gomez at LB when he's surely been called up as back up LB, and now will change the tactics which sees Saka move from a position of influence and strength, to LWB Feels a man scrambling around rather than being brave. Being brave for me is accepting that what's happening first 4 game isn't working. Stick with 4-3-3 and change the personnel within that, with someone natural on LW, deciding between Foden/Saka for RW and actually playing TAA at RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 hours ago, TalkSport said: Somehow worse injury than Shaw, seeing he’ll likely not playing again What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 hours ago, Rob1981 said: Trippier has been doing the normal training with everyone else I think. But ITV think we are changing it up completely: Mainoo in the middle as the sixpence. Surely that's 4 at the back with Saka at left back, TAA back in midfield and Foden/Belli/Mainoo behind Kane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairwad Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I wouldn't surprised if he does does 3 at the back as it's his older trusted formation. But if he did I'd really like to see Eze be given a chance on the left (at the expense of Saka). For cameos so far I've been most impressed by Eze, Toney and Palmer. It's a shame Palmer (and shoehorned 10s) have even less chances to play in a 3-5-whatever though. The only real solution here is for Shaw to be fit enough to start which will solve an awful lot of problems. Until then it seems we're stuck in this balance of starting the best players on the pitch who might do something individually vs fitting players to a style/formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Shaw being fit good one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 When’s the last time Shaw played football? Absolutely no chance he starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Vynal Seven said: When’s the last time Shaw played football? Absolutely no chance he starts. 18th Feb, don't think he's played since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Quote England manager Gareth Southgate said "if I can't enjoy this moment then it's a waste of time" after his side reached the Euro 2024 semi-finals by beating Switzerland 5-3 on penalties. The Three Lions' moment of jubilation was made even sweeter for Southgate as he celebrated with supporters following the recent "difficult personal" criticism he has faced in Germany. "Every now and then surely there has to be some enjoyment in this job," said the England manager. "I love the players and sharing that moment with them. "I can't deny that when it's [the criticism] as personal as it has been in the last few weeks on a human level, that's quite difficult." I said in the other thread, but we should knight him regardless of what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, titchuk said: I said in the other thread, but we should knight him regardless of what happens Dawn right we should. He's the greatest leader we've produced since Churchill. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 He’s definitely getting knighted. Was always going to happen even before the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Wait you're actually serious about the knighthood thing? I thought it was a banter post but it doesn't sound like it now. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 People care about knighthoods? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 One for the xG lovers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted July 6 Administrators Share Posted July 6 Just now, Astafjevs said: Wait you're actually serious about the knighthood thing? I thought it was a banter post but it doesn't sound like it now. I'd be amazed if he isn't awarded it in the New Years Honours List. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 What for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: What for? Services to FootyBanter accounts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titchuk Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 7 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Wait you're actually serious about the knighthood thing? I thought it was a banter post but it doesn't sound like it now. It is a joke post but also yes he should be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 We have to beat the Dutch first and that will be a "simply lovely" game of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skybluedave Posted July 6 Popular Post Share Posted July 6 38 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: One for the xG lovers If only he'd converted one more and he might have been in Semi final too 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 england are the jar-jar binks of the tournament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Shaw has to start at LB next match. Give Gordon some minutes. Hell, give Wharton a cap too at the end of the game for Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Taking shithousery to an entirely new level. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, adhikapp said: Shaw has to start at LB next match. Give Gordon some minutes. Hell, give Wharton a cap too at the end of the game for Rice. I don't see Southgate making many changes. If something works (in his eyes anyway) he’ll stick with it rather than risk making changes that disrupt a winning formula. Not sure what his plan was for taking Gordon as he doesn’t seem to trust him. Will be interesting to see what he does with centre half as Guehi’s had a solid tournament but Konsa did really well last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 We’ll be the same team as started last game IMO, to match up with Dutch. Dutch would be better to start Frimpomg over Dumfries, but they’ll go same again. First real team we’ll face this Euros that will actually have some individual star quality in final third, with passers around them so will be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 32 minutes ago, Bigwig said: I don't see Southgate making many changes. If something works (in his eyes anyway) he’ll stick with it rather than risk making changes that disrupt a winning formula. Not sure what his plan was for taking Gordon as he doesn’t seem to trust him. Gordon is just 3rd choice. Eze ahead of him and don’t think nothing will change Gareth view on that, despite another poor cameo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Bigwig said: I don't see Southgate making many changes. If something works (in his eyes anyway) he’ll stick with it rather than risk making changes that disrupt a winning formula. Not sure what his plan was for taking Gordon as he doesn’t seem to trust him. Will be interesting to see what he does with centre half as Guehi’s had a solid tournament but Konsa did really well last night. Is one win in five in 90 mins a winning formula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 45 minutes ago, TalkSport said: Gordon is just 3rd choice. Eze ahead of him and don’t think nothing will change Gareth view on that, despite another poor cameo. I didn't think Eze was that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 35 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Is one win in five in 90 mins a winning formula? Personally I don’t think so, but I’m sure Southgate would point to being in the semi finals so whatever he’s doing must be right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 EVen Graham Taylor would have gotten to the semis with these draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Baptista_8 said: I didn't think Eze was that bad. I thought he was decent. Brilliant on the ball, but lacking a bit of defensive nous for the wing back responsibilities...Which is absolutely as expected. Doubt Gordon would have dealt much better. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 10 minutes ago, Divinity said: EVen Graham Taylor would have gotten to the semis with these draws. Haha, what? That's the Graham Taylor that missed a World Cup because we couldn't beat Norway, right? At a time when Norway hadn't been to a World Cup for over half a century. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 12 minutes ago, Divinity said: EVen Graham Taylor would have gotten to the semis with these draws. Euro 92 we drew 0-0 to Denmark and a mediocre France and lost to Sweden World Cup 94 qualification as well as the other failings we conceded a goal to San Marino... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Lads you just lost at home to Iceland with this squad. Weird how your memories work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Well I don't see Australia in the semi-finals of the Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, Divinity said: Lads you just lost at home to Iceland with this squad. Weird how your memories work. There's no easy games at this level only applies to the Southgate era yet doesn't apply to any previous England managers iirc. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, RTHerringbone said: Well I don't see Australia in the semi-finals of the Euros I accept them being **** because they are. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 8 Author Share Posted July 8 19 hours ago, arenaross said: There's no easy games at this level only applies to the Southgate era yet doesn't apply to any previous England managers iirc. People have been saying this for years That's why it's been a cliche for as long as any of us can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 22 hours ago, Crispypaul said: Euro 92 we drew 0-0 to Denmark and a mediocre France and lost to Sweden World Cup 94 qualification as well as the other failings we conceded a goal to San Marino... Sweden had a really good side in 1992. France were on a par with us at the time and Denmark won the competition Taylor wasn't great but wasn't awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 On 07/07/2024 at 07:17, arenaross said: Taking shithousery to an entirely new level. It's unsustainable. Southgate has been a very lucky manager. But we still have a chance of winning it unbelievably 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Why is our striker doing this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eenie Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Defending from the front! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Harry Kane invented the false 6 position. Absolute trendsetter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 The problem with asking him to stay up the pitch is that he's not a great target person, that's not his strength. The amount of times he just ducks out of the way rather than contest a header is so frustrating. I'd happily see Toney or Watkins start in his place, it would fix so many issues in that final third, but he is England's captain and therefore no chance of him being dropped. Those days of the train line at set pieces in 2018 seem like a distant memory now, remember how dangerous he was back then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barry Cartman said: Why is our striker doing this He's been criticised a lot for not doing it (He isn't a particularly effective presser tbf, he's not nearly quick and agile enough to catch people out especially when he's the only one doing it) Think the main thing is Bellingham and Foden and Saka aren't really doing it enough, and some of that is tactical 16 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: Those days of the train line at set pieces in 2018 seem like a distant memory now, remember how dangerous he was back then? Don't know why we're not trying it tbh. We've lost a little aerial threat in Slabhead being out of action, but we're not a short team, and need to make set pieces work better Edited July 8 by enigmatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 58 minutes ago, Bliss Seeker said: but he is England's captain and therefore no chance of him being dropped. Weak management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Seeker Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 17 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Weak management. Submit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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