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Thankfully mine's not that bad, have enough to play people in their positions (aside from right back but that's when training comes in) but that moment in a youth challenge when you're desperate for the intake and you get the preview... Oh

Safe to say our small squad (we have 16 players) is catching up with us

OK, full game out now it's time to really start after the false start with Dulwich. I'm sticking with England with FC United. Starting profile How the club and squad look at the start:

As is likely clear by my lack of any update I've not really taken to the Dulwich save but I do have an idea for another team. Will wait till Monday for the full release before starting as not going to have a massive amount of time to play before then anyway.

I really want you to complete it with them so best of luck!

So been playing around with a couple saves waiting for full release but I've yet to play more than 2 league games with a side as I can't connect to a save knowing I'm going to stop in a couple of weeks so screw it, I'll start now. I return to Dulwich Hamlet after 6 or 7 years when last time I only got as far as the Championship. This has been my plan since I saw they got relegated back in May so let's see how it goes Starting Profile

Haha, good. You're the reason I even attempted this challenge years ago with your strikerless team in Sweden (I think?) so it's good it's come full circle Know what you mean though, I've been playing around a little as wanted to hold off starting the challenge till the full game is out but I can't get into anything as I know it's only a 2 week save at most so I'm thinking I'll be starting here properly sometime soon.

Ah that's a spanner in the works, Japan might be as hard as somewhere like England now - just for different reasons.

Only if it's me But yeah that's a good shout.

Just seen this over in GD so yeah might be best holding off Japan till full release

Beta, sorry, Early Access has only been out 25 hours and we're already on 3 pages. You lot make this thread so much fun each year, am looking forward to being a proper part of it this year rather than just popping in every few weeks like last year. Many thanks for making this such a popular way of playing the game. This probably should have been in the OP now I've written it

Heard there is still some licensing issues to be signed off in Japan so maybe worth waiting till full release before trying there?

I have a feeling Japan is going to be popular - at least at the start

Bugger

With all that done, beta is out -

Ideas for teams to manage If anyone with any local knowledge as any ideas for interesting teams then let me know and I'll add them to this post for people

Over the last few years we have had a record (well a record since I started tracking it) number of completions so let's see what this year brings User Club Country Year Completed Version Cultured Left Foot C.D Toledo Spain 2046 FM24 Ron_Swanson Reymersholms IK Sweden 2061 FM24 resurectedja Dept. Armenhio Argentina 2027 FM23 leyrtj Lam Dong Vietnam* 2036 FM24 resurectedja Chernomorets Bulgaria 2043 FM21 Reibow Olot Spain 2047 FM24 Anners Tranent Scotland 2073 FM24 libbyshuss Lyra Lierse Belgium 2064 FM24 Ice209 Bucovina Radauti Romania 2045 FM23-24 glennuk ReinBerg Japan 2053 FM24 Perre8 Wacker Innsbruck Austria 2034 FM24 dkouv Bora Rangers Scotland 2052 FM24 komein svedu Carl Zeiss Jena Germany 2056 FM24 resurectedja Merthyr England 2053 FM21 XaW Veertien Japan** 2065 FM24 TerminalPortugal Electrico Portugal 2040 FM24 XaW Ubuntu Cape Town South Africa** 2051 FM24 libbyshuss TS Sporting South Africa 2038 FM24 XaW Markham Papa New Guinea** 2043 FM24 XaW Astros Curacao** 2037 FM24 leyrtj Mauriki Vanuatu* 2026 FM24 Colossus Deportiva Leioa Spain 2037 FM24 thomas_e Energie Cottbus Germany 2038 FM24 XaW Ubuntu Cape Town South Africa 2031 FM24 libbyshuss Honda FC Japan 2042 FM24 the_hdk Veertien Mie Japan 2039 FM24 jstu9 Lami Fiji* 2035 FM23 libbyshuss Aachen Germany 2063 FM23 Dr Pepepr Man Bashford England 2041 FM23 leyrtj Magesi South Africa 2031 FM23 grff Otahuhu United New Zealand* 2033 FM23 grff Al-Nojoom Saudi Arabia* 2033 FM23 Barnsley FC United England 2053 FM23 grff Ifeanyi Ubah Nigeria* 2033 FM23 fries South Shields England 2044 FM23 ludak OFK Beograd Serbia 2041 FM23 the_hdk Polonia Warszawa Poland 2039 FM23 thomas_e Energie Cottbus Germany 2033 FM23 Neo_Geo Chiasso Switzerland 2034 FM23 hubwub Comunicaciones Argentia 2027 FM23 hubwub Tampico Madero Mexico 2027 FM23 the_hdk Karsiyaka Turkey 2039 FM23 HenTheChicken Mumbles Wales 2046 FM23 glennuk Worthing England 2056 FM22 thomas_e Katwijk Holland 2036 FM22 Neo_Geo Katwijk Holland 2038 FM22 Daddy Karpaty Lviv Ukraine 2041 FM22` toshimitzou1 Haukar Iceland 2035 FM22 libbyshuss Whitby Town England 2066 FM22 libbyshuss Chaco For Ever Argentina 2056 FM22 dkouv Sant Andreu Spain 2039 FM22 OlivierL Africanos Bragança Portugal 2038 FM22 Ronaldo Beckham Toulon France 2037 FM22 SpS_Zen Heibei Kungfu China 2032 FM22 fries FC United England 2043 FM22 Daddy Deportes Concepcion Chile 2037 FM22 thomas_e Unterhaching Germany 2040 FM22 Flashman\'s School Days Tacuarembo Urugay 2032 FM22 Pauldinho7 Beira-Mar Portugal 2042 FM22 DrJones Huelva Spain 2031 FM22 SpS_Zen Mbombela United South Africa 2038 FM22 Zdnap Lotte Germany 2032 FM21 OlivierL RW Essen Germany 2030 FM21 toshimitzou1 AO Aigaleo Greece 2041 FM21 darren1983 South Shields England 2046 FM21 TerminalPortugal Portalegrense Portugal 2043 FM21 scarp Bora Rangers Scotland 2049 FM21 libbyshuss FC Mirassol Brazil 2045 FM21 holidaysong FC United England 2048 FM21 Slipky Ashton United England 2036 FM21 steve.rush Sannois SG France 2046 FM21 Cheez3y Wits South Africa 2026 FM21 Armeniar Sedan France 2035 FM21 Cheez3y Lyn TF Norway 2031 FM21 thomas_e Sacachispas Argentina 2030 FM21 JAwtunes Widzew Lodz Poland 2038 FM20 vikeologist Palermo Italy 2041 FM20 thomas_e South Shields England 2040 FM20 dkouv Scarborough England 2045 FM20 Miek Nuneaton Boro England 2049 FM20 Padders Scarborough England 2277 (not a typo) FM20 thomas_e Energie Cottbus Germany 2033 FM20 XaW Kettering Town England 2036 FM19 thomas_e Real Jean Spain 2038 FM19 b101 Sampedrense Portugal 2031 FM18 * challenge was completed on a custom database. ** challenge is part of the insane idea of doing a youth only hexagon challenge

Welcome back everyone!! Well another year has passed and we're back at this insane challenge This is the new incarnation of the Youth Academy Challenge started by ri916 and continued by Braumiller before I picked it up. This new thread will also play host to people that are starting on older versions if they want, just easier to keep people active even if not on latest version. Please let me know if you’re playing on an older version though. The Aim To win your chosen countries' top division and win the Champions League of your continent with a previously unplayable club using only your academy as a way of acquiring new players - this mean NO TRANSFERS of any kind. No buying back former players. Even on a free. No loans not even as part of a deal to sell your player. The Available Countries Previously any Country in Europe was eligible as long as you can get a previously unplayable side promoted from holidaying, however over the last few years we were happy to extended it to the rest of the world as well as long as the team meets the criteria of being previously unplayable and that is the same this year. Custom leagues will be allowed from now on however if you complete the challenge on a custom DB we'll list your achievement with note to say it was done on a custom DB because we have no way of verifying the DB. Not all leagues are able to be used though so please ask in thread, by tagging myself and/or XaW, to check before you start. Helpful Information There is often lots of speculation about what impacts the youth intake and what you as a player can do in order to get the best intake you can and the below is the information we have thanks to @Seb Wassell (sorry for the notification here mate) Newgens & Youth Intake Youth Recruitment The Club’s recruiting of Juniors, those of home and foreign origin. Youth Facilities The training facilities available for Juniors (only). Does NOT apply to visible players already at the club. All visible players currently at the club use Training Facilities regardless of age. Junior Coaching The quality and quantity of Junior Coaches at the Club. Nation Youth Rating The potential maximum quality and quantity of Juniors produced in that Nation. Game Importance How important football is considered to be in that Nation. Producing Newgens The Clubs with the best Youth Recruitment will generally pick up the best Junior talent from that Nation first, the scale of that talent being determined by the Nation Youth Rating and Game Importance. The lower the Youth Recruitment the further down the pecking order a club will find itself. Two clubs with identical Youth Recruitment will be sorted by Club Reputation. Being lower down this pecking order does not mean quality Newgens cannot be produced, it simply lowers the chances. Youth Facilities and Junior Coaching then simulate and determine how that Junior progresses in the Club’s Junior system until a Newgen is produced and appears in game. It is at this point that the Current Ability (CA) and Potential Ability (PA) of the newgens are decided. The above factors all contribute to both CA and PA equally. Head of Youth Development (HoYD) The club’s HoYD is responsible for bringing Newgens into the club. He will influence what “type” of players are selected and can partially or fully pass on his personality to some of these Newgens. The “type” of players selected refers to a player’s position and style, for instance a HoYD with a preferred 4-5-1 formation and a Technical Coaching Style may produce more technically styled midfielders than another HoYD. The HoYD will also influence the rare “freak” or exceptional Newgens that come through, modifying their ability and style. This role is filled by the HoYD by default, however if none is employed whichever staff member is set to be responsible for youth development will fill this role. Youth Intake Preview In FM22 the Development Centre will provide a preview of the upcoming youth intake ahead of the day itself. This preview will provide some information on the general quality of the intake, positions that are either blessed with or lacking in quality and any other notable highlights. Currently it seems we DON'T get an inbox item for when poaching other teams players happens, but we instead get in an extra player in the first possible intake. Not ideal, and I hope SI will fix it, but at least it's possible to see after the player appears so worth checking how many players come through - it's usually 16 so any more than that and you've likely got a poached player in your intake Junior Player Poaching It is possible for Juniors to be poached from another club's youth system. This will most commonly occur from smaller reputation club > larger reputation club. When this occurs a inbox item is received, offering a few details (similar to that of the Youth Intake Preview) on the player that has been poached. Poached players will appear in the next appropriate youth intake. Known Issues As of right now there are none known so if and when we do find them I'll update this part The Reset Dates (Dates will appear when they have been confirmed for FM22 so please tag me when you know and if the country you pick isn't listed below just let me know the reset date and I'll add it) Some leagues (any you find please let me know) don't have relegation for the firsts season so if you want to play in those leagues you will be required to holiday for 2 seasons. Norway for example the top two tiers run the first season and without relegation in the lowest one. Holidaying a season will make the other leagues start as normal season 2. So holidaying through that will allow the normal promotion to the 3rd tier. The reason for this is that all amateur football has been suspended this season in real life. Also as of FM21 (I think it was) the sides that are picked to be promoted from the unplayable leagues are no longer picked the day before the league reset so we now have to holiday to a point usually a few weeks before the league reset. Save there and then holiday to the league reset in order to get different teams. Holland - there was no relegation in FM23 so if this changes this year we'll add it South Korea - Same as Holland really, relegation was postponed in Korea again so this country was not used for FM23, if relegation is there this year then it can be added Andorra - Argentina - January 1st Austria - June 13th. Save May 31st for different teams Belarus Belgium - June 29th. Save March 30th for different teams Bulgaria - June 17th. Save May 24th for different teams Brazil - January 2nd. Save Jan 1st for different teams Chile - January 1st China - Croatia - June 19th. Save June 8th for different teams Czech Republic - June 30th. Save 28th May for different teams Denmark - June 30th. Save May 30th for different teams England - June 24th. Save on May 24th for different teams Faroe Islands - Finland - December 16th France - June 19th Germany - June 19th. Save May 25th for different teams Greece - June 19th. Save May 12th for different teams Hungry - June 19th. Save May 26th for different teams Iceland - December 9th. Save October 8th for different teams Indonesia - Israel - June 19th. Save May 16th for different teams Italy - June 29th. Save May 28th for different teams Japan - 15th January, save on 30th November for different teams Lebanon - Malta - June 20th Mexico - Northern Ireland - 24th June. Save May 17th for different teams Norway - January 13th Poland - Portugal - Romania - June 12th is the final leg of promotion playoffs. Scotland - June 24th. Holiday until 4 May. Holiday one day to generate playoff and see team you like. Save and then replay until promoted playoff team wins. Serbia - 15 June 2024. Save on 25 May 2024 for different teams. Slovenia - 30 June 2024. Save on 25 May 2024 for different teams. Slovakia – 28 June 2024. Save on 25 May 2024 for different teams. South Africa - July 14th Spain - July 9th. Save June 23rd for different teams. Sweden - 25th December. Save on October 15th for different teams Switzerland - June 29th. Save on May 17th for different teams Turkey - June 20th. Save May 5th for different teams Ukraine - Uruguay - Wales – June 24th. Save May 1st for different teams Database Settings Mandatory Database size can be small, medium or large Advanced Options have to be as shown here – New in FM24 New to FM24 is the different style of game worlds we can have when starting a save: As we sim the first season I think original or even real world are the only ones we should be using for this challenge. Optional Any additional settings in the ‘Advanced Database Setup’ – Due to us not being allowed to buy players, adding extra players just adds to the realism of your game and potentially slightly increases difficulty. NOTE – It is highly recommended you add the highest unplayable leagues for your country, as this will help make sure the promoted teams (you will be taking control of) have players. As an example, this is what I loaded for England for example - Players from Top Clubs in Europe (or all players from whatever continent you are playing in) is also recommended We used to limit this to just loading the leagues from the country you are playing in but we now allow you to load as many leagues as you to add a bit more immersion into their saves. You don't have to add any more than the country you are playing in but the option is there for people that want to. Steps When Getting Started Add yourself as an unemployed manager. Call him holiday man if you want. Go on holiday until the reset date of your nation or the day before if you’re planning on reloading. Retire the manager Add a new manager with your chosen nationality and the lowest possible reputation and qualifications Choose the newly promoted club of your choice Rules for when taking over your club of choice You're allowed to keep any player that starts under contract, you can extend their contracts as often as you like Any players that are on loan at the club can be used but their loans can not be extended If your board sign players for you and you can't cancel the deal these players can not be used, they must be sold ASAP, you should also post a screenshot in here when they've been signed so that we know they've been given to you Rules for the Challenge No loans or transfers in are allowed but you can sell and loan players out. If you are sacked, sorry, you have to start again. No save game editors are allowed. Only cosmetic database edits are allowed. (Team/competition names/logos) No international management until completion of challenge. Signing backroom staff is allowed. Signing players on trial or signing grey players isn't allowed. Rules for this Thread Player naming is allowed. General discussion on tactics is allowed, although people should not refer to downloaded tactics. They are not banned, but I would expect the majority of people to avoid them. Screenshots for anything are encouraged but please post links to your pictures, don't post them as images as it makes the pages slower to load. When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile on the league reset date. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread. The beauty of these challenge threads is to share your story and to read others. Please keep us updated, even if you are not performing as you may wish. Season Update Youth Candidates All Tagged Players Attribute page Transfers (to prove that you haven’t signed any players) Squad League Table Anything else is optional.  Also, some people like to nickname/tag their best players from each youth intake in chronological order. For example, you could nickname your best player in the intake in season 1 as *their name* YP01a, and so on. But this is not compulsory if you don't wish to. Completions Over the years I've been running the thread we've kept track of completions via the hall of fame and last season some excellent work by @OlivierL we have a list of countries completed Good luck everyone as we embark on yet another crazy journey!

New thread shortly

New thread will be posted once the beta is out. Not sure if I'll have a quick beta save with Brentford to get used to the game or dive straight in with Dulwich Hamlet.

My thought process was that it didn't really affect us in here as we holiday the first season and don't sign anyone anyone so I just assumed using "Original" would be what people use anyway?

I was going to put a note in the new OP but yeah I've no issue with anyone continuing their save on FM24 posting in the new thread.

Fair play to all still going, am taking a FM break before the beta drops but already know my team for next year. I'll have the new thread up soon after the beta drops I imagine.