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The question I'm currently asking myself is whether to promote a youngster with a 'balanced attitude' to the first team so that he can be mentored. At the moment, I've lined up a loan deal for him just to cover his wages as I'm in League 2 & need to increase my wage budget. I've found that youngsters with a balanced personality don't generally progress that much out on loan (even when playing regularly) & so are better to cash in on. But maybe I should mentor him first?
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4 hours ago, danej said:
Just checked my most problematic player, original youth player Will Cain, now 20 y/o. He says he is open to loan offers so that itsn't the problem. It is quite strange why he turned down a loan move to affiliate club Gateshead. He hardly ever plays for me, perhaps 1-2 cup games each season. He has also been out on loan the last 18 months so he has been willing to go earlier. But not this summer.
And still no other clubs are interested in him? Have you tried transfer listing him?
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30 minutes ago, XaW said:
How much do you have left on your wage budget? What the board allows to pay for loans should be similar to what you can offer in wage to a signing.
Thanks for your reply!
That's not the issue unfortunately. Sometimes the wage contribution for a player is only £50 per week but the board refuse to pay any percentage whereas they will happily pay nearly £2000 p/w for a different player of lower ability & reputation.
It's very strange.
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Hi guys,
I'm playing as Colchester United & am trying to bring in some loanees that improve the team.
For some players, the board agree to make some sort of wage contribution towards the player's wages. Sometimes this is adequate & sometimes it's too low a percentage because the player's salary is too high. That's fine & realistic, I have no issue with that.
What I'm confused about is why the board refuse to pay any contribution towards the salary of certain players. It doesn't seem to matter whether their salary is high or low. 'World Reputation' doesn't seem to matter, nor does the Scout's opinion of their ability (the stars).
What am I missing?
Thanks in advance for any help or ideas!
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1 hour ago, danej said:
Yeah I always try that. A lot of players can't go to affiliate clubs for one reason or the other. Often none of the affiliate club want to play the player regularly. Or the play turns down the loan move to the affiliate club.
1 hour ago, danej said:I am Sunderland. So a club that starts in League One with superb training facilites. Now I am in the Prem with state of the art facilities.
Yeah I imagine it is often a bit hard to loan out players if their current level is Vanarama North/South level. But I talk about better player. What puzzles me is that I regularly can't loan out players whose current ability is Vanarama National or League Two, even when I offer them out for free, covering all their wages. It doesn't make any sense to me. However, I have to deal with it - to sell or not to sell in those situations. Or perhaps there is some other solution I haven't thought of.
I'm not certain if this how the AI works but in my experience, if a player doesn't want to go out on loan then there won't be any clubs interested in loaning him. It's like the AI managers already know there's no point & so they don't make offers. If a player is refusing to join the affiliate club then it looks like this could be the problem. When you list him for loan, does it say something under his happiness details about wanting to go out on loan to get first team experience? And when you set his status as 'available for loan' does he say that he's 'open' to going out on loan?
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I'm wondering why you can't find a club interesting in loaning him. Which division are you playing in? And what level of football is recommended for him when looking at his coach report?
I think bigger clubs with better training facilities are more likely to see progression with young players 'stuck' in their under 23s team.
If no one is interested in him, are you even able to sell him (or give him away)?
Sometimes I have to transfer list a player first so that he becomes more favourable to being loaned out. I find that more clubs are then interested when I try to loan him out again.
I can't remember but you may also be able to have a chat with him after transfer listing him in order to persuade him to move on which again can help other clubs become interested.
I think bigger clubs face this problem in real life too. Too many young players are happy to stay in their familiar environment with nice training facilities & only move on when their contract is run down. Other players are continually loaned out until they are eventually released at the end of their contracts unless they are one of those few lucky enough to then be given a chance in the first team.
EnigMattic1's suggestion is also a good one.
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25 minutes ago, dcayton9 said:
The tactic looks really good, I think it should work well on the break and I like the defensive winger on the right providing pressure and getting crosses in. I think in your specific case a BBM would accomplish much of the same thing, solely because the PPMs that he has are so attacking already and all an attack duty would do is raise his individual mentality meaning he'd try more risky passes, take long shots, and other similar behaviors. The player is not great at these or at decision making, so I'm inclined to believe a BBM might work best. If the attack feels blunted after a while, maybe try out the TF as an attack duty or even switch the RM to winger attack then the RB to defend and the other CM to a support role but I think overall it's really well thought out.
Thanks very much!
Just to check, I keep the CM as a CM(d)? Or could I consider a CM(S) or maybe a DLP(s) so that he holds position? That would only leave my two centre-backs with a (d) duty though...
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8 hours ago, nugatti said:
This looks more thought through imo.
TF pressing not sure, guess it depends on where you want to win the ball.
I'd give this a go and try to implement even more changes if the team does not perform.Thanks for all of your help @nugatti, it's been much appreciated! I'm really excited to get going with my season now as I feel that I have a base tactic that suits my team & will allow me to slowly build.
A final question (for now anyway!) is whether it would be acceptable to play my CM(A) as a BBM(s) in this tactic?
I know that I should be looking to have 3 attacking players but his attributes are much better suited to being a BBM (with some being great for this level) & he has some good attacking player traits (see screenshot) that mean he will get into the box like a CM(a) anyway, right? Maybe I could also give him a PI to 'get further forward' too?
Essentially, I don't want to lose out on his good defensive skills when playing him as a CM(a). Would I lose anything by keeping him as a CM(a) or would his teamwork & positioning etc mean that he will get back defensively like a BBM anyway?
Thanks again!
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Ok so here's my latest 442:
Questions:
I've instructed my TF to tackle harder & press more often because he's very brave, aggressive & strong & a fairly hardworking team player too. Is it too much to have both forwards pressing aggressively?
Do I need the LCM on Defend duty or could I get away with (S) or should I opt for something like a DLP (S) so that he holds position but gives a bit more in offense? He's fairly decent on the ball.
Should I tell me LWB to 'stay wider' or will he do that anyway as a WB(S)?
My RCM has a good jumping reach for a CM at this level (14). Is there a way to tell the GK to distribute to a CM? And is this even a good idea?
Is my right wing too passive? My right sided full-back is fairly limited & I was actually considering making him my third (D) duty rather than the LCM but figured I needed one of the CMs to hold position if the other was making attacking runs.
Thanks guys!
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On 22/06/2022 at 19:48, bosque said:
I think you gave yourself the best answer.
9 hours ago, nugatti said:I think you are on to sensible changes, and regarding the WP there are two kinds of slow; Slow speed and slow passing.
It should not be a problem with slow speed as long as he gets into position to receive the ball quite often - anticipation and off the ball helps. The most important thing is his ability to get the ball forward at speed. I think this is where anticipation (again), decisions, first touch, technique (and flair?) comes into play.
It's probably a good idea to prioritise a speedier play on the other wing? The guy I'd likely play is quick & most suited to playing as a defensive winger. I checked his positioning & like @dcayton9 says, it's further back. I figured that this would be a good option (on Support) as I plan to have a CM(A) on that side too.
Thanks again guys!
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31 minutes ago, bosque said:
It would help too if your best CB is on that side too. So he can deal better with the space left by the WB if a counterattack happen.
Speed, positioning, anticipation & concentration would be key?
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2 minutes ago, bosque said:
Yep! And then you have your WP using the space your CM is not using because he is playing more conservatly. And your WB compensating two things: the speed your WP lacks and the space he lefts vacated in the wing.
Thanks @bosque Believe it or not, I was actually considering these very things too. Looks like I'm finally 'getting it'!
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16 minutes ago, bosque said:
I think you gave yourself the best answer.
Haha! I'm wondering if he will be a liability defensively. I suppose I'd look to have a more defensive CM on that side as I'd have an aggressive WB?
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On 21/06/2022 at 11:47, nugatti said:
The guide says give an att role for your most creative player. Is your most creative player the HB or the AM?
If it's the HB change him to a PM role and place him in the M strata. Also I'd not go with a slow player on AM-att duty. An AM is a runner/hard worker, so maybe a holding CM role would suit him better and one of the CMs could move up?Also, GK distribution to true playmaker role in the team makes more sense to me, otherwise distribute to player position.
An option could also be moving the AM to a WP role in M strata, giving you midfield width defensively and smart combination play with the WB? You would need to re-work the midfield, though...Only do this if your WBs are good at marking and have relatively high work rate, determination and stamina.
Set these to shorter/more direct and higher/lower only if your MCs, AMs, FCs have above/below league average in the skills specified in the opening post. (I use Excel for this after exportng my squad skills overview.)
Also your mentality has set this to mixed, meaning you trust your players' decisions here. If you do not trust their decisons, you can help them prioritize one way or the other. I'd assume the weight goes from 50-50 (default) to (short passes) 65-35 (direct passes) when set to shorter and vice versa on more direct (but don't use this as a fact, it's only my assumption
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I'd say it's overkill. Normally stretching play creates space.
Width should complement passing style. Wider normally works better with more direct passing. The specified players and skills as in the opening post should dictate this.
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It would be interesting to see if you give your interpretation a run or if you make changes. Currently working on a flat 4-4-2 with Esbjerg myself with a very promising start in the friendlies so far. Cheers
18 hours ago, dcayton9 said:@smeagoltonez I will give a few critiques but the tips that @nugattigave are very helpful and I agree with them.
- Halfback is a niche role imo that is focused on building out of the back against two forward systems. Therefore, I'd switch the DM to an Anchor if he's slow but reads the game well, BWM if he is quick, aggressive and strong in the tackle, or a simple DM if nothing particular is his strong suit. In a deeper block with no emphasis on controlling the game DLP(defend) is not the best role so stay away from that.
- If one of your wingbacks is capable, maybe an attack duty could help. I am a strong believer of three attack duties on balanced mentality or else I think it's too dull and one dimensional. Another option is a Mezzala (attack) in the midfield on the side of your supporting forward, or your entire front 3 on attack, with the AM being set to an AP so the box doesn't get too crowded.
- I would not force opposition inside on defense. I think defending wide and low is a strange combo that lends itself to getting torn apart by teams that have superior players.
- As already said, i think distribute to player -> DM is probably a better option since you have no labeled playmaker.
- As an overall tip, I'd avoid any instructions that seem like overkill, as they probably are, then only turn them on in game when you want to overemphasize that feature.
Thank you both very much! I read your comments earlier but didn't get time to reply properly.
I actually started with a 442. The slow AM was a WP & I had a defensive winger on the other side. Funny that both of these things have been mentioned now (although the defensive winger wasn't in response to my post).
When I get some time I will take another look at my 442 tactic & post it here for your thoughts. I was put off because it felt too simple & easy to create but that may be a further reflection of the excellent work done by @dcayton9.
Also, would a slow WP be a problem? I'd look to have my fairly athletic WB overlap to compensate.
Thanks again guys!
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Hi all,
I've finally got round to building my own tactic, based on the principles brilliantly outlined here by @dcayton9
I've taken over Colchester United at the beginning of the 21/22 season in League 2. The media prediction is 20th out of 24 teams - so not looking good!
Squad comparisons confirm that my team is weak & below average in many areas:
Defence - very poor physically. Slow but with good mentals which is unsurprising as the centre-backs are 'experienced' (to put it kindly).
Midfield - lacking any real wingers. Central midfielders are are all-rounders plus two more experienced players who lack the pace & stamina but look ok to sit in the DM & AM spots.
Attackers - hardworking, fairly aggressive, brave, good teamwork, decent anticipation. One is big & the other short. Average speed. Both would be decent pressing forwards.
This led me to settle on a narrow, 442 diamond with a low block (lower defensive line & LOE). I figured that my slow centre-backs need to play close to my goal & that if I bring the two attackers back too, it condenses the space for us to hopefully win the ball back.
Defensive Width - 'Force the opposition inside' - I'm not sure about this. It makes sense to me to force the opposition into the middle where I have superior numbers but could this mess up my team shape too much? Also, is it that big a problem if the opposition are sending crosses into the box? My big, slow centre-backs should be able to deal with this?
I'm also wondering whether to get my wingbacks to mark the opposition's wingers to force the ball inside or force them to lump it forwards where my centre-backs should win the aerial duels.
Passing Directness & Tempo - I've left these as 'standard' - I could play it short & slow due to the close proximity of my players & to allow my wingbacks to get up the pitch but I also have a decent target man to lump it up to so figured Standard is the best option.
Distribute to playmaker - my DM is quite good on the ball but lacks Off the Ball & Vision. Still, he's a better option than my centre-backs & where dominate the middle in numbers.
Dribble Less & Be More Disciplined - I'm wondering whether to activate these & then give more freedom to my better ball players. At the moment I've left it off & have given PIs to my better ball players.
Floated crosses - to find my Target Forward.
Hit early crosses - again, for my Target Forward to knock down to my AM or PF?
Focus Play Through The Middle - is this necessary given my team shape? Would it be overkill?
Attacking Width - 'Standard' - should I switch it to narrow or is this again overkill given my narrow formation?
Wingbacks - considering telling them to cross more often & to cross from deep to target my TF. But it would also be useful for them to recycle possession so that my midfield can carry the ball up the pitch through the middle. Maybe this is something that I need to consider on a game-by-game basis?
Any other suggestions or observations? I'm still a novice so don't worry about offending me!
Thanks very much!
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Hi all,
I'm thinking that I'll use an unofficial transfer update & start the game in June 2022. However, I'm wondering what this will mean for player progression over the 21/22 season that I've 'missed'? Will the game simulate this? Will players progress & decline according to their age?
Also, will any transfers take place during the 21/22 season that I've 'missed' or will squads reflect those in the latest database that I use?
Thanks!
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A good question & one that I'd be intrigued to know the answer to!
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Thanks for posting! Would you consider making the left sided fullback 'support' when you're holding onto a positive result towards the end of a game or just leave it as it is?
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A very informative read & very well written. Looking forward to the next edition!
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I just came here to suggest the same thing. Or even just displaying the stars to show the reputation of each club & perhaps the reputation/ranking of the league.
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I think the following manager tendencies could be added:
tends to:
- sign hardworking players (e.g. Moyes & Dyche)
- sign physical players (e.g. Pulis, Dyche)
- sign experienced players (e.g. Allardyce)
- sign tall players (e.g. Pulis)
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15 minutes ago, Carambau said:
Maybe there is a custom skin who does that.
Perhaps, I don't know much about custom skins to be honest. I don't think it would be a tricky thing for SI to implement though & all of the other important information is there.
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When comparing potential new recruits or evaluating my squad, I pay a lot of attention to the personality of each player. Therefore, it would be very helpful if we could also view the players' personality when using the player comparison screen.
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Wiping the Slate Clean: A Logical Guide to Building a Tactic from Scratch
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Thank you!