MoxeysTheName Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, martplfc1 said: Nah, I'll take your word for it You sure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, MoxeysTheName said: You sure? Yes thanks, I'll sleep just fine tonight. I hope the operation is a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Well this discussion went in a strange direction. At least it can be related to the medical side of things! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, upthetoon said: so what happens if the sports science rating is low? does it mean he gives wrong feedbacks occassionaly injuring the players more? how will this affect LLM ? No self respecting LLaMa would hire a sports scientist, it’s just intellectual quackery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apvmoreira Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Dawsey said: Looks a great additon & should aid managers in knowing if any players are in the “Red Zone” as mentioned by a certain Mr Wenger in real life! It is more of a visual guide to how training workloads & number of matches can have an impact. Plus you can spot the Daniel Sturridge’s & Andy Carrol’s of your team so you can get rid of them This, plus a decent team of physios and a well managed squad (2 XIs) will make 60% of the injuries gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Payaso Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 23 minutes ago, apvmoreira said: This, plus a decent team of physios and a well managed squad (2 XIs) will make 60% of the injuries gone! Hopefully not as the amount of injuries already is so low as long as you do things sensibly. Of course there is a fear that by 'mastering' this area you can walk through the season without any injury problems and to master this you only need to find the staff with good attributes. But hopefully instead this is an area where you have to pay some attention yourself and that you cannot delegate this part of the game to your staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apvmoreira Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, El Payaso said: Hopefully not as the amount of injuries already is so low as long as you do things sensibly. Of course there is a fear that by 'mastering' this area you can walk through the season without any injury problems and to master this you only need to find the staff with good attributes. But hopefully instead this is an area where you have to pay some attention yourself and that you cannot delegate this part of the game to your staff. You have to do it, as it is the goal of every club. It will never happen, but we can try. But you can never predict game injuries, so you will always have injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, El Payaso said: Hopefully not as the amount of injuries already is so low as long as you do things sensibly. Of course there is a fear that by 'mastering' this area you can walk through the season without any injury problems and to master this you only need to find the staff with good attributes. But hopefully instead this is an area where you have to pay some attention yourself and that you cannot delegate this part of the game to your staff. Master it? Good grief, I'm looking at the video and thinking i'll be terrified to send the lads out onto the training pitch let alone a field of play! And poor Pereiyra - got a good ol' boot up the jacksie, methinks :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I don't think this is going to get rid of all injuries, surely things that result from tackles and physical contact aren't going to be impacted. A million sports scientists couldn't have prevented Mane taking Ederson's face off, or Shawcross Shawcrossing Aaron Ramsey. I think it's just going to help us manage the muscular pulls and strains that are picked up, but even then it won't get rid of them completely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Payaso Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 54 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: Master it? Good grief, I'm looking at the video and thinking i'll be terrified to send the lads out onto the training pitch let alone a field of play! And poor Pereiyra - got a good ol' boot up the jacksie, methinks :-) A feature that would actually make the game more challenging would be a really welcome one. But based on years of experience I wouldn't say that any of the features really does that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armbi Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, El Payaso said: A feature that would actually make the game more challenging would be a really welcome one. But based on years of experience I wouldn't say that any of the features really does that. That's what I think! But I just don't want to say anything, because in other features I was condemned for daring to criticise It's all just cosmetic I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Nice looking screens. Hope (but it wasn't made 100% clear) an effect is that training can be turned down or up for individual players, especially when you've got players whose fitness, injury proneness (or attitude) warrants a slightly different training programme. The ability to use sport science to help prolong players' careers would be far more interesting than the information on injuries themselves too. Especially since injuries are turned down to very low levels in FM anyway... I wonder if as part of this overhaul SI will turn injury numbers up? It'll mean more complaints. But they'll get complaints about numbers of injuries in the latest FM regardless of what they've changed at all from the last one or not... Edited October 16, 2017 by enigmatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 hours ago, gunner86 said: I don't think this is going to get rid of all injuries, surely things that result from tackles and physical contact aren't going to be impacted. A million sports scientists couldn't have prevented Mane taking Ederson's face off, or Shawcross Shawcrossing Aaron Ramsey. I think it's just going to help us manage the muscular pulls and strains that are picked up, but even then it won't get rid of them completely and it shouldn't. It should just lower the risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
streety Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 So I'm guessing that LLM Will not have the Sport Scientist hired and will not have access to all the additional information then that they provide, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I’d like to think that it would be beyond the financial means of lower league clubs, even many professional clubs. If the information is easily available to clubs at at levels I’d be rather disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bommen Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Guys, help me out here. Any1 of you know how the dedicated stats for sport scientist are gonna work? Lets say I have a person with 10, which info will he give me compared to the guy with ex 18? Sidequestion: How about the physio - Are the players healing faster with a 18 physio compared to a 8 physio?. Thanks mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy8chimp Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, bommen said: How about the physio - Are the players healing faster with a 18 physio compared to a 8 physio They wont actually heal faster, but the effect is the same. A poor physio tends to give you a bracket i.e. 'player X is injured for 6-8 weeks' [and that player wouldn't be available for 8 weeks] where a good physio, regarding the same injury, would say 'player x is injured for 6 weeks' [and the player would be available after 6 weeks] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apvmoreira Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, westy8chimp said: They wont actually heal faster, but the effect is the same. A poor physio tends to give you a bracket i.e. 'player X is injured for 6-8 weeks' [and that player wouldn't be available for 8 weeks] where a good physio, regarding the same injury, would say 'player x is injured for 6 weeks' [and the player would be available after 6 weeks] I thought better physio stats would mean to be able to prevent injuries and to heal faster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogsonwheels Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Will be interested to see how this feature impacts the game. Hopefully it means you might be more interested in taking a gamble on a great but injury prone player and be able to have an individual training regime that tries to keep those injuries at bay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
upthetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 IRL, amateur clubs perhaps they call it differently or the staff performs whatever stuff the sports scientist do in a smaller scale. As this is a game, so you mean for LLM management the chairman will say something like sports scientist is not required? similar to scout not being able to travel in some places? Will sports scientist only be available for clubs with high rating. meaning clubs from championship rating? or league 1? what's the impact of having sports scientists with lower stats compared to higher stats? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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